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Almost ready to apply - Please help with some sticking points.

razor787

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Hello!

We have a rough copy of all the documents we need. All I need to do is get these questions answered, have some documents translated, and we are ready to go.

So, to get to the point, here is where I am stuck.

IMM 5533:
My wife has an estranged father. On her birth certificate, it has the biological fathers name. When she was a child, her mother changed her legal name to that of the father who raised her. For the supporting documents, she must get birth certificates/identity cards from all her family members.

Her parents/sister will not be coming to Canada. Do we really need to get their documents? What do we do for her father. She has never met her birth father, and it will be impossible to get documents from him.

IMM 0008:
In the education section, she must put her university details. She completed 5 years of University in Russia. She is considered a "Specialist" in economics here. I do not know how this transfers to Canadian University though. Would this be a Bachelors degree, or Masters?

IMM 5669:
In details of her parents. I assume she is to put the information on the father who raised her. Or should she enter what information she knows about her biological father?

Thanks to anyone who can help!
 

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#1 - no birth certificates or identity cards need to be included for any of her family members. This is only required for dependents you are including to also be sponsored.

#2 - don’t try to equate it to a Canadian degree, just write what her degree actually is called.

#3 - if it were me i would include information about both the biological father and the father who raised her (this would be considered her stepfather to IRCC) and attach a letter of explanation if some biological father information is missing/not available.

Good luck!
 

razor787

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#1 - no birth certificates or identity cards need to be included for any of her family members. This is only required for dependents you are including to also be sponsored.

#2 - don’t try to equate it to a Canadian degree, just write what her degree actually is called.

#3 - if it were me i would include information about both the biological father and the father who raised her (this would be considered her stepfather to IRCC) and attach a letter of explanation if some biological father information is missing/not available.

Good luck!
For #1, in the form it says "Birth Certificates or Baptismal certificates for yourself and all family members, whether they are accompanying you to Canada or not"

Would all family members be children, or literally everyone in her family. Meaning that we would need to provide for her parents and sisters.

#2
I looked at the help form, and the online form and they have a list of answers to this question. The options being...

None - Secondary or less - Trade/Apprenticeship Certificate/Diploma
1- Non University Certificate/Diploma
2- Post-Secondary (No Degree)
3 - Bachelors Degree
Post Graduate (No Degree)
4 - Masters Degree
Doctorate (PhD)

From those choices, the only ones that I could think to choose from are the 4 that I have numbered. Are you sure I should write Specialist? The form doesn't have an option for "other" in the dropdown menu.

Thanks!!!
 

WorkerInCanada123

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#1 - Family member as defined by the IRCC is your spouse or common-law partner, and dependent children. NOT extended family.
#2 - Do you have a copy of her degree from the University in Russia? What does it actually say? You can still get a Bachelor and Masters degree in Russia, so I'd assume her degree would state either a Bachelor of Commerce or Master of Commerce.
 

razor787

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#1 - Family member as defined by the IRCC is your spouse or common-law partner, and dependent children. NOT extended family.
#2 - Do you have a copy of her degree from the University in Russia? What does it actually say? You can still get a Bachelor and Masters degree in Russia, so I'd assume her degree would state either a Bachelor of Commerce or Master of Commerce.
I think I finally found the information online about this. It seems it is higher than a bachelors degree, yet below a masters.

https://studyinrussia.ru/en/study-in-russia/info/levels-of-education/

It shows that a Bachelors degree is "Level 1" while Specialist and Masters are both level 2. However, the Masters is the Specialist degree, with an extra 2 years of education. So with this, it seems as if I should put that she has a Bachelors degree.

Thanks for your help!
 

canuck_in_uk

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IMM 5669:
In details of her parents. I assume she is to put the information on the father who raised her. Or should she enter what information she knows about her biological father?
Unless her stepfather adopted her, her biological father is still her legal father and that is who she needs to list on the forms.
 

Ukrainian girl

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I think I finally found the information online about this. It seems it is higher than a bachelors degree, yet below a masters.

https://studyinrussia.ru/en/study-in-russia/info/levels-of-education/

It shows that a Bachelors degree is "Level 1" while Specialist and Masters are both level 2. However, the Masters is the Specialist degree, with an extra 2 years of education. So with this, it seems as if I should put that she has a Bachelors degree.

Thanks for your help!
Hi. I am from Ukraine and I also have a Specialist degree. On the form IMM 0008 I put that my highest level of education was Bachelor as specialist level wasn’t on the list so I used logic that the highest level that I got (if selecting from their list that they offered to choose from) would be bachelor. I don’t think it would be right to select the option “Master” as it is a different degree with a different program of education and your wife hasn’t got a diploma of Masters degree, what she got is Bachelor degree (that diploma that she got after 4 years of studying in University) plus Specialist degree (after one extra year of studying). But on the Schedule A where they ask to disclose your education history I did put my Bachelors diploma as well as Specialist’s diploma as that form let’s you actually type whatever level of education you got and how many years it took to obtain it. Hope this helps.