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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,896
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
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Visa Office......
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NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
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12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi @legalfalcon

I have ordered CBSA note via GETGCMS, how long can I expect to receive the note? Thanks.
All notes are released within 30 days. However, CBSA and CSIS only releases the note via postal mail, which add another 7-10 business days.
 

daguai

Newbie
Apr 23, 2019
8
0
@legalfalcon

Hi Legalfalcon,

Thank you for providing feedback/suggestions to all the desperate applicants!
I recently received my GCMS notes requested on July 4, could you please help me to understand the summary section?

AOR: March 20, 2019, CEC, In Land
Eligibility: Review Required
Security: Not Started
Criminality: Passed

Cast Analyst: Recommendation: Review Required MI3 Summary Notes: PLEASE REVIEW FILE - PA APPEARS TO HAVE EARNED SUFFICIENT POINTS & SUFFICIENT CANADIAN WORK EXPERIENCE AS PER LOE. HOWEVER, THE TOOL APPEARS TO ONLY AWARD PA WITH 3 MONTHS OF CANADIAN WORK EXPERIENCE RATHER THAN 1 YEAR A11.2 APPEARS MET R87.1: CEC MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS - Appears Met Ready to Finalize RPRF: Complete

What's the officer referring when he's talking about the "TOOL"? Your feedback is appreciated!
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,896
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon

Hi Legalfalcon,

Thank you for providing feedback/suggestions to all the desperate applicants!
I recently received my GCMS notes requested on July 4, could you please help me to understand the summary section?

AOR: March 20, 2019, CEC, In Land
Eligibility: Review Required
Security: Not Started
Criminality: Passed

Cast Analyst: Recommendation: Review Required MI3 Summary Notes: PLEASE REVIEW FILE - PA APPEARS TO HAVE EARNED SUFFICIENT POINTS & SUFFICIENT CANADIAN WORK EXPERIENCE AS PER LOE. HOWEVER, THE TOOL APPEARS TO ONLY AWARD PA WITH 3 MONTHS OF CANADIAN WORK EXPERIENCE RATHER THAN 1 YEAR A11.2 APPEARS MET R87.1: CEC MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS - Appears Met Ready to Finalize RPRF: Complete

What's the officer referring when he's talking about the "TOOL"? Your feedback is appreciated!
The tool here refers to the online calculation tool. You can see your calculation of points in the mid of the GCMS notes.
 
Aug 29, 2019
7
13
South Africa
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Pretoria
NOC Code......
7231
Nomination.....
20-12-2018
AOR Received.
08-02-2019
Passport Req..
05-09-2019
Hi Legalfalcon,

I recently received my GCMS notes and Im having difficulty in analyzing the below notes and whether it could be detrimental to my application. This note is from the 24/04/2019 and although it is note 2, seems to be the most recent activity on my file. Note 1 only records an email I sent with to CIO on the 12/06/2019

Please could you help me understand this better. Please note I have deleted personal information such as names and company names.

Thank you in advance.

NOTES: 2
Created Date: 2019/04/24 07:27:03
Created By: DM01333
Updated Date: 2019/04/24 07:30:11
Updated By: DM01333
Restricted: No
Label: General
NOTES: 2
Office: Centralized Intake Office

Text:
REVIEW TYPE: CASE PROCESSING AGENT APPLICATION: REGULATION: PNP, 2019-02-08 | have reviewed this application based upon the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file and note the following. RECOMMENDATION: *** OFFICER REVIEW REQUIRED *** *** Please Review information regarding refusal in Integrated Search ** Please Review Funds A11.2: Medicals: ALL VALID Outstanding Documents (Not Requested): - RPRF PNP Triage: Refer to IR

CIVIL STATUS: NO CONCERNS PA , MARRIED Marriage certificate is on file PASSPORT EXPIRY: 2023-05-20 SPOUSE/CL , ACCOMPANYING PASSPORT EXPIRY: 2025-08-26 DEP 1 , born: 2012-08-16, age at lock-in date: 6), ACCOMPANYING PASSPORT EXPIRY: 2023-03-20 Birth cert: PA and Spouse listed as parents PNP NOMINATION: - Province of Nomination: PE. - PNC#: . - Province matches current residence: Yes. - Nomination validity: Original. - Case Type: Economic Case. SETTLEMENT FUNDS: Review Required Family of 3 requires CAD $ 19,093 NOTE: EDOC

INTEGRATED SEARCH (FOSS/GCMS): PA No trace in GCMS/FOSS other than present application SPOUSE/CL No trace in GCMS/FOSS other than present application DEP 1 No trace in GCMS/FOSS other than present application

A11.2 CRS ASSESSMENT: CRS Score at ITA: 824 /Min CRS Score for Round: 449 Total CRS Points Assessed: 749 600 - PROVINCIAL NOMINATION - Verified by clo WORK EXPERIENCE(S): Qualifying Period: from 08FEB2014 to 07FEB2019 1) Journeyman Turner Machinist - (NOC7231) 2006/06 to 2016/11 Submitted letter(s) of reference 2006/11/04 which is/are assessed as follows: EDOCS NUMBER(S): 273706303 The duties listed in the letter(s) of reference appear to be consistent with the actions in the lead statement under the NOC code selected. The letter(s) of reference appear to be consistent with a substantial number of the main duties under the NOC code selected. The letter(s) of reference appear to demonstrate that the PA met the minimum requirements of 24 months of work experience. PA has valid job offer or trade certificate issued by province
 

Kashveer

Star Member
Aug 30, 2019
149
26
Dear @legalfalcon


Upon reading many posts from you, I highly appreciate your professional and experts in good sharing understanding of all points related to PR procedures and issues through notes generating. Could you give me a favor to help me understand my notes:

- My notes requested and generated on 25 July showing:

ASSESSMENTS:
Eligibility: passed
Security: (blank)
Criminality: passed
Medical: passed
Information sharing: complete
Other requests: in progress
Final: blank


In the part of Admissibility: showing security 1 for my spouse and 2 for myself only and I saw the s.15(1) at the top right corner. Does it mean my security was completed because the s.15(1) showed in the note?

In some lasts pages after items of "Infornation sharing part", showed that:

Application 1:

Created date: blank
Created by: blank
Field name: Other requests
Action: updated
Old value: not started
New value: In progress
Office: Ho Chi Minh


Application 2:
Created date: blank
Created by: blank
Field name: Other requests
Action: updated
Old value:
New value: not started
Office: Singapore

Application 3:
Created date: blank
Created by: blank
Field name: Secondary office
Action: added
Old value:
New value: Ho Chi Minh
Office: Singapore

Application 4:
Created date: blank
Created by: blank
Field name: Final
Action: updated
Old value: Approved
New value: blank
Office: Singapore

Application 5:
Created date: blank
Created by: blank
Field name: Final
Action: updated
Old value: blank
New value: Approved
Office: Singapore

However, I called CIC on 07Aug, the agent told me that my file looks good, everything completed, my background check completed.

what does the meaining of Application 4 and 5 as above? Based on the above information from notes and the data provided by the agent, do you think that my file is all completed and approved? And only waiting for PPR email?

Very appreciate to receive your reply.
Hi, our application AIR is 12 Nov 2018. Even we are also having the same content in the GCMS notes. Can we connect seperately to discuss the same. Please mail me to kailashv2907@gmail.com
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,896
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi Legalfalcon,

I recently received my GCMS notes and Im having difficulty in analyzing the below notes and whether it could be detrimental to my application. This note is from the 24/04/2019 and although it is note 2, seems to be the most recent activity on my file. Note 1 only records an email I sent with to CIO on the 12/06/2019

Please could you help me understand this better. Please note I have deleted personal information such as names and company names.

Thank you in advance.

NOTES: 2
Created Date: 2019/04/24 07:27:03
Created By: DM01333
Updated Date: 2019/04/24 07:30:11
Updated By: DM01333
Restricted: No
Label: General
NOTES: 2
Office: Centralized Intake Office

Text:
REVIEW TYPE: CASE PROCESSING AGENT APPLICATION: REGULATION: PNP, 2019-02-08 | have reviewed this application based upon the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file and note the following. RECOMMENDATION: *** OFFICER REVIEW REQUIRED *** *** Please Review information regarding refusal in Integrated Search ** Please Review Funds A11.2: Medicals: ALL VALID Outstanding Documents (Not Requested): - RPRF PNP Triage: Refer to IR

CIVIL STATUS: NO CONCERNS PA , MARRIED Marriage certificate is on file PASSPORT EXPIRY: 2023-05-20 SPOUSE/CL , ACCOMPANYING PASSPORT EXPIRY: 2025-08-26 DEP 1 , born: 2012-08-16, age at lock-in date: 6), ACCOMPANYING PASSPORT EXPIRY: 2023-03-20 Birth cert: PA and Spouse listed as parents PNP NOMINATION: - Province of Nomination: PE. - PNC#: . - Province matches current residence: Yes. - Nomination validity: Original. - Case Type: Economic Case. SETTLEMENT FUNDS: Review Required Family of 3 requires CAD $ 19,093 NOTE: EDOC

INTEGRATED SEARCH (FOSS/GCMS): PA No trace in GCMS/FOSS other than present application SPOUSE/CL No trace in GCMS/FOSS other than present application DEP 1 No trace in GCMS/FOSS other than present application

A11.2 CRS ASSESSMENT: CRS Score at ITA: 824 /Min CRS Score for Round: 449 Total CRS Points Assessed: 749 600 - PROVINCIAL NOMINATION - Verified by clo WORK EXPERIENCE(S): Qualifying Period: from 08FEB2014 to 07FEB2019 1) Journeyman Turner Machinist - (NOC7231) 2006/06 to 2016/11 Submitted letter(s) of reference 2006/11/04 which is/are assessed as follows: EDOCS NUMBER(S): 273706303 The duties listed in the letter(s) of reference appear to be consistent with the actions in the lead statement under the NOC code selected. The letter(s) of reference appear to be consistent with a substantial number of the main duties under the NOC code selected. The letter(s) of reference appear to demonstrate that the PA met the minimum requirements of 24 months of work experience. PA has valid job offer or trade certificate issued by province
If you have a prior visa refusal for any country, and if you answered yes to any statutory question, the RR for visa refusal is common. Unless you have prior immigration issues, this is nothing to worry about.

I wrote a post on RR, and I am re-posting it here:



Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

There are just some of the scenarios.

Hope this helps.
 

SolLine

Newbie
Aug 27, 2019
5
1
Hi @legalfalcon
I'd appreciate your help in interpreting my notes.

Security: Not Started

HIRV

Criminality: In Progress

Org Crime:

Medical: Passed

Misrepresentation:

Info Sharing: Complete

Other Reqs:

Final



Note 5

Created date 2019/05/21

Updated By: LM14969

Restricted: No

Label: EE Eligibility

Office Centralised Intake Office

REVIEW TYPE: Program Assistant APPLICATION #: XXXXXX REGULATION: FSW: I have reviewed this application based on the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file and note the following. MIN SCORE: 452 CRS: 475. Principal applicant Application Promote: New UCI Primary Applicant Medical Attached to UCI: Yes Client Fees: Verified LANGUAGES Principal Applicant English – IELTS and Met Threshold & Verified EDUCATION Primary Applicant ECA reported Verified on issuing agency website; foreign credentials confirmed on ECA website ECA Canadian Equivalency Summary reported by issuing agency as Masters degree Foreign credential provided POLICE CERTIFICATE Primary Applicant India police certificate provided NRT Australia police certificate, Provided NRT R10 OK. Recommendation Pass. Criminality AGE Applicants age reviewed and No change from ITA to eAPR. Documents for Review Client information


Other things to note

Date report generated: 2019-08-05

Date report received: 2019-08-30

It appears that my file was transferred from CIC to CPC –Ottawa on 2019-06-10. Reason workload redistribution


Any advise would be most appreciated


Very many thanks
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,896
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi @legalfalcon
I'd appreciate your help in interpreting my notes.

Security: Not Started

HIRV

Criminality: In Progress

Org Crime:

Medical: Passed

Misrepresentation:

Info Sharing: Complete

Other Reqs:

Final



Note 5

Created date 2019/05/21

Updated By: LM14969

Restricted: No

Label: EE Eligibility

Office Centralised Intake Office

REVIEW TYPE: Program Assistant APPLICATION #: XXXXXX REGULATION: FSW: I have reviewed this application based on the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file and note the following. MIN SCORE: 452 CRS: 475. Principal applicant Application Promote: New UCI Primary Applicant Medical Attached to UCI: Yes Client Fees: Verified LANGUAGES Principal Applicant English – IELTS and Met Threshold & Verified EDUCATION Primary Applicant ECA reported Verified on issuing agency website; foreign credentials confirmed on ECA website ECA Canadian Equivalency Summary reported by issuing agency as Masters degree Foreign credential provided POLICE CERTIFICATE Primary Applicant India police certificate provided NRT Australia police certificate, Provided NRT R10 OK. Recommendation Pass. Criminality AGE Applicants age reviewed and No change from ITA to eAPR. Documents for Review Client information


Other things to note

Date report generated: 2019-08-05

Date report received: 2019-08-30

It appears that my file was transferred from CIC to CPC –Ottawa on 2019-06-10. Reason workload redistribution


Any advise would be most appreciated


Very many thanks
The note you see here is your R10 note, also called the completeness check. Your eligibility has not yet started.

To read in the stages of an application, see
https://www.getgcms.com/blog/express-entry-application-processed/
 

akilot

Full Member
Aug 20, 2019
22
2
Hi @legalfalcon

As per my gcms I had review required for work experience where the duties were not mentioned on the letters but salary and full time job was confirmed.
I asked my company to provide letter with job duties but they refused. So I did and notarized document stating the job duties and got it signed from my manager. Have sent the same through CSE with LOE and my manager's visiting card.
Would this be considered by IRCC and by when should I order my next set of GCMS notes to see what remark they have given for this?
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,896
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi @legalfalcon

As per my gcms I had review required for work experience where the duties were not mentioned on the letters but salary and full time job was confirmed.
I asked my company to provide letter with job duties but they refused. So I did and notarized document stating the job duties and got it signed from my manager. Have sent the same through CSE with LOE and my manager's visiting card.
Would this be considered by IRCC and by when should I order my next set of GCMS notes to see what remark they have given for this?
Yes, this should be considered, however since you sent it later, i.e. it was not filed along with your application, it will depend on the officer's discretion. But in most cases they do consider.

After you send any documents via CSE, it takes 3-5 weeks for them to be added to your application, processed, and reviewed.

So if you want to request GCMS notes, wait for at least a month after you send the documents.