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ALL ABOUT GCMS - HOW TO ORDER, READ, & GENERAL QUESTIONS ANSWERED

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,030
9,888
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hello @legalfalcon,
Sir I got ADR yesterday and they gave me 7 days to submit it, but to get that particular document will take 2 months in Canada, will cic accept the extension of the time period for the additional document? Kindly help.
Thank you
If you provide an explanation and see an extension, it will be provided.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,030
9,888
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Sorry that I get into your discussion. But what if I have 4 blank activities with my name, then activity #5 says "security" and contains my name, and then #6 is the same as #5 but for my wife? Isn't it a sign of comprehensive SS?
All GCMS notes will have 4 activities, and that does not mean that you are in comprehensive SS.
 
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whiterabbit

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All GCMS notes will have 4 activities, and that does not mean that you are in comprehensive SS.
Thanks a lot for your reply! I thought that I got into comprehensive SS as my security has been ongoing for two months already, so I started inspecting notes carefully and find these "suspicious" activities. Anyway, I ordered CBSA notes just in case. Hope to get good news before they arrive.
 

L_K_84

Star Member
Jan 3, 2019
117
42
Hi @legalfalcon , I provided the bank statement with the necessary funds, but in local currency (not USD or CAD) and now according to gcms notes my Eligibility is marked "Review required" for the Funds.How do such cases usually progress? Will I be placed in the long queue with other "review required" applications just because of the conversion issue?
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,030
9,888
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi @legalfalcon , I provided the bank statement with the necessary funds, but in local currency (not USD or CAD) and now according to gcms notes my Eligibility is marked "Review required" for the Funds.How do such cases usually progress? Will I be placed in the long queue with other "review required" applications just because of the conversion issue?
Many applicants have RR for PoF, and it doe snot mean there are any issues. As long as you meet the PoF requirements in any currency you are good. The RR is just a way of the analyst pointing to the officer to

I wrote a post on RR before and reposting it here:


Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

There are just some of the scenarios.
 
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TrangVu

Full Member
Jan 18, 2019
42
3
Hi, I have few questions. My case was totally fine until I got landing interview. Our ID address were not matching and I didn’t bring any proof of cohabitation. Then I got sent home, received Procedural Fairness Letter, replied, and got file transferred to Etobicoke ( it was in Mississauga). So:
1. In the part Application (the very first page) it said Interview Lang: Vietnamese and Interpreter required: Yes
-> Does that mean I will have relationship interview?
2. Correspondence: Out going then a blank page “ Page 7 is withheld pursuant to section 29 of the privacy Act”
-> what does that mean.
3. In one Note (after my landing interview failed) says: A file transfer is necessary. File will be transferred to CIC. Final case decision: File transfer required.
-> my file was transferred to etobicoke ( Primary office is Etobicoke and Secondary is Mississauga). Does that mean I will highly be interviewed?
4. Will the note come from mail have more info than from email?
5. I just sent in more proof of cohabitation. Should I order another GCMS note? I want to know if I will have relationship interview or what is happening with my case.
Thank you.
@legalfalcon can you reply me please? Thank you so much
 

L_K_84

Star Member
Jan 3, 2019
117
42
Many applicants have RR for PoF, and it doe snot mean there are any issues. As long as you meet the PoF requirements in any currency you are good. The RR is just a way of the analyst pointing to the officer to

I wrote a post on RR before and reposting it here:


Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

There are just some of the scenarios.
@legalfalcon thanks for the reply. Appreciate really it. However, my concern is the delay the RR will cause to my application...even though its most probably just a conversion issue. There is also a note regarding my husband's previous marriage, that no documents are on file. However, there was no field to upload anything related to his previous relationship, so I thought it is not required and no ADR was ever requested. In any case, we have his divorce certificate ready whenever they ask for it, and he has no kids from the previous marriage.

I am attaching a part of the notes for your valuable insights. Thank you again!

 

Quorn

Star Member
Nov 28, 2017
140
51
Category........
FSW
For sec 15 see
https://www.getgcms.com/blog/s15-s16-top-right-gcms-denote/


Usually GCMS does not state SS. If you have 2 security entries, then you need not worry. There should be a total of 4.

You DO not have to inform IRCC of pregnancy. You only have to inform IRCC after your child is born, i.e. when your family composition changes.
Dear @legalfalcon ,

Thank you so much for your detailed e-mail. I have re-visited my GCMS notes and observed that under NOTES SECTION, I see s.15(1) and s.17 on top right corner. Could you please advise what is the meaning of s.17 ?
 

Quorn

Star Member
Nov 28, 2017
140
51
Category........
FSW
@legalfalcon ,

Just some additional information:

I have checked the act, which corresponds to Safety of Individuals (unless I am wrong) as follows:
17) The head of a government institution may refuse to disclose any record requested under this Act that contains information the disclosure of which could reasonably be expected to threaten the safety of individuals.

I was previously received an ADR on 8 March 2019, wherein I was requested to provide Military Records Table. I have provided the same table and on the notes it is stated that the table has been received and reviewed. It is that page of the notes, which contains s.17 in addition to s15(1)

NOTES:
NOTES: 1
Created Date: 2019/03/19 05:26:08
Created By: JW0XXXX
Uploaded Date: 2019/03/13 05/26:58
Uploaded by: JW0XXXX
Restricted: No
Label: General
Office: Paris
Text: Military docs received and reviewed
 

Ikrait

Full Member
May 29, 2019
20
0
I have used the site getgcms.com made the payment but I haven't received the prefilled form . It's been two days and I'm still waiting . Why is this happening !!?
Please inform your team and let me know why this delay is happening .
 

shipping

Hero Member
Oct 5, 2017
276
46
Requesting GCMS notes is a a personal preference. However, if you wish to request them, you should request them around 70-90 days post AoR.
...I am just ar 25 mar 2019, aor may 10th n just requested getgcms note on jun 21...is it a matter? annoying to the officer?
 

perlita1990

Star Member
Apr 13, 2019
110
77
Anyone familiar about the CAIPS NOTES issued after visa refusal? I was advised to file one for CAD 2500 but i think this is too much just to determine the real reason for denial.
I just got my refusal letter today, :(:(:(


• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.

I applied for a student Visa - SDS
 

Immigration_guru

Champion Member
Apr 26, 2019
1,523
444
India
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
NDVO
NOC Code......
0601
Anyone familiar about the CAIPS NOTES issued after visa refusal? I was advised to file one for CAD 2500 but i think this is too much just to determine the real reason for denial.
I just got my refusal letter today, :(:(:(


• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit.

I applied for a student Visa - SDS
2500? for CAIPS,
CAIPS are called GCMS now and you can use the third party link and order it for 20CAD
 

tuhadapeo

Hero Member
Jul 20, 2017
315
86
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Montreal -> Vancouver
NOC Code......
2173
App. Filed.......
04-12-2018
AOR Received.
04-12-2018
Med's Done....
14-01-2019
@legalfalcon

I just realized that I had changed my NOC post ITA to 2173 from 2174. Re-reading the job duties it feels like 2174 was the right choice. What should I do? I ordered notes last week.