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seadrag0n

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In Canada, a lot of senior people have their wealth locked in their houses and real estate. IF immigrations is stopped completely, capital gain will go negative because there is not going to be any increase in population plus no incentive for anyone outside canada to put money in the real estate. That alone will deal a death blow to people's finances in Canada. Thats cancellation of majority of Canadian retirement. It will be a blood bath.
I saw one of the Potato Talkies videos on YouTube and they said that the real estate owners who normally rent out apartments to new immigrants mainly international students weren't able to do so last year because of border closures so they decided to sell some of the apartments. They bought a 1BR apartment in Kitchener for 450k which was supposedly on the cheap.
 

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I saw one of the Potato Talkies videos on YouTube and they said that the real estate owners who normally rent out apartments to new immigrants mainly international students weren't able to do so last year because of border closures so they decided to sell some of the apartments. They bought a 1BR apartment in Kitchener for 450k which was supposedly on the cheap.
In canada, rents and prices are kind of divorced. No one buys because they feel rental income is great. They buy so that they can flip it in 2 years or 4 years.
 
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There has already been an indication that TR to PR will come back, and that again means if you're a student in Canada, you get a free PR. So sure, it's going to be much easier for them. But the for outsiders, direct PR is always going to get more difficult. master's plus 3 years work exp is pretty much getting to be the norm. Throw in a bit of mediocre french to get a few points and get an edge. Meanwhile, Master's plus 1 year of exp was more than adequate until May 2019. May 2019 scores went to 470, then took until September 2019 to get to 457, then they skipped a draw again, and scores jumped again to 465+ (don't remember the exact number here). The average scores were already on the rise even in 2019. The pandemic just supercharged this. In other words, yes, it was already getting more difficult to immigrate to Canada as an outsider before the pandemic.
Look if you have top score today (490+ or 500), in one year you will very likely get an ITA. When, I do not know. If you want an invite RIGHT NOW, I doubt that will happen easily. Give it few months, a top score of 480/490/500 will get you there.

I applied for Canada PR in 2014 but I applied in november under NOC 2172. That year, there was a snow storm in UK and my application package was delayed by 5 days or so. 2172 got over-booked and my application was returned. Shit happens. After that I did not apply in EE till 2021.
Point is, I was good enough in 2014 and I am decent enough (with 475 points) in 2021. If I had to do it all again in 2023, very likely I will be able to do it but I will have to get my wife to get a top score in IELTS.
 

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noh, just wondering about the ongoing discussions happening here. I'm out of the loop, past few days I been chillin, sleeping, digging in for ppr folks and drinking.

Lol same happened to me when I opened the forum I saw post related to Canadian politics, I thought JT again called snap election.
 
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Look if you have top score today (490+ or 500), in one year you will very likely get an ITA. When, I do not know. If you want an invite RIGHT NOW, I doubt that will happen easily. Give it few months, a top score of 480/490/500 will get you there.

I applied for Canada PR in 2014 but I applied in november under NOC 2172. That year, there was a snow storm in UK and my application package was delayed by 5 days or so. 2172 got over-booked and my application was returned. Shit happens. After that I did not apply in EE till 2021.
Point is, I was good enough in 2014 and I am decent enough (with 475 points) in 2021. If I had to do it all again in 2023, very likely I will be able to do it but I will have to get my wife to get a top score in IELTS.
If FSW draws happen, I will obviously get an invite. The point is that immigration to Canada is in fact getting more difficult for outsiders, whether you choose to see it or not. And direct PR is probably one of the main reasons anyone even chooses Canada. The scores were already on the rise in 2019, and with the pandemic and Shiticino's crap, will not drop to 2019 levels. Again, shit happens, that's fine. They skipped a draw, scores shot up. Shit happens.

But the problem I have is them breaking their own system and pretending like nothing changed. This isn't about shit happening. This is about bad decision making and shitty politics artificially raising the bar specifically for some people (and making it laughably easier for others) just because they aren't already located in Canada or are already from first world countries (IEC). Immigration is 100% getting more difficult. You're already in Canada so it's understandable you don't see how the immigration landscape is already inaccessible to a large number of people when it was a piece of cake for the same people in 2018.
 
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If FSW draws happen, I will obviously get an invite. The point is that immigration to Canada is very much getting more difficult for outsiders. And direct PR is probably one of the main reasons anyone even chooses Canada. The scores were already on the rise in 2019, and will not drop to 2019 levels. Again, shit happens, I don't care. They skipped a draw, scores shot up. Shit happens.

But the problem I have is them breaking their own system and pretending like nothing changed. This isn't about shit happening. This is about bad decision making and shitty politics artificially raising the bar for people just because they aren't already located in Canada or are already from first world countries (IEC). Immigration is 100% getting more difficult. You're already in Canada so it's understandable you don't see how the immigration landscape is already inaccessible to a large number of people when it was a piece of cake for the same people in 2018.
The rules are constantly changing. That's why I don't want to spend 1500 on OINP. Next week, they might open up a stream for inland applicants. It's so unpredictable.
 
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The rules are constantly changing. That's why I don't want to spend 1500 on OINP. Next week, they might open up a stream for inland applicants. It's so unpredictable.
Wow that's a horrible decision. You're choosing to gamble on your entire future for $1500? You do you, but if I got an OINP invite today, I'd take it instantly even if there was a forever hopeful sunshine rainbow expectation of an all program draw tomorrow.

Edit: Wait you said inland. Yeah idk then. You can afford to skip an OINP invite I guess. Still not worth it imo. $1500 is nothing in the long run.
 

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If FSW draws happen, I will obviously get an invite. The point is that immigration to Canada is in fact getting more difficult for outsiders, whether you choose to see it or not
For outside folks, immigration has always been harder than in-land folks. There are more points for in-land experience, for in-land studies, for in-land job offers. That has always been the case.
 

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Wow that's a horrible decision. You're choosing to gamble on your entire future for $1500? You do you, but if I got an OINP invite today, I'd take it instantly even if there was a forever hopeful sunshine rainbow expectation of an all program draw tomorrow.

Edit: Wait you said inland. Yeah idk then. You can afford to skip an OINP invite. Still not worth it imo. $1500 is nothing in the long run.
Well, I'm conflicted about whether or not to apply for OINP right now tbh. If I applied I'd probably get it but it's $1500 plus 18months or so of waiting. I've literally paid so much money along the way, this just feels like another unneeded expense. I could apply for OINP now or wait till I get enough experience for CEC but looks like CEC is unclear atm
 
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For outside folks, immigration has always been harder than in-land folks. There are more points for in-land experience, for in-land studies, for in-land job offers.
THEN WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE ARGUING ABOUT?
We're literally saying the same fucking thing. It has always been harder for outsiders, and it is getting harder (while inland is getting easier). It was getting harder before the pandemic as well, and the pandemic just accelerated the pace of it.
 

seadrag0n

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Well, I'm conflicted about whether or not to apply for OINP right now tbh. If I applied I'd probably get it but it's $1500 plus 18months or so of waiting. I've literally paid so much money along the way, this just feels like another unneeded expense. I could apply for OINP now or wait till I get enough experience for CEC but looks like CEC is unclear atm
You are talking about paper-based OINP PR application? Won't you get a support letter from Ontario for a work permit till you get your PR?