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New Policy for International Students - April 12th, 2021

canwave

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So that will be a disadvantage for those people who don't have access to a printer?

Must the forms be hand signed? Can digital signatures suffice?
I think the form he's talking about is the "Schedule A Background/Declaration: form. The reason this form might have to be filled out by hand is that there is one section to "write" your name in your native language. Idk if it applies to native English speakers or languages with English characters, but everyone else has to write it in the native letters or script. The word "written" is why I think we need to print it out and sign by hand.
 

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I think the form he's talking about is the "Schedule A Background/Declaration: form. The reason this form might have to be filled out by hand is that there is one section to "write" your name in your native language. Idk if it applies to native English speakers or languages with English characters, but everyone else has to write it in the native letters or script. The word "written" is why I think we need to print it out and sign by hand.
Form "Additional Family Information" needs to be signed too.

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I think the form he's talking about is the "Schedule A Background/Declaration: form. The reason this form might have to be filled out by hand is that there is one section to "write" your name in your native language. Idk if it applies to native English speakers or languages with English characters, but everyone else has to write it in the native letters or script. The word "written" is why I think we need to print it out and sign by hand.
So, we have to fill most of the form online, print it and write our name (even if it has "English" characters) and sign it? They should clarify in the guide.

I really hope IRCC releases the guide on Monday (or any time before Thursday) and gives people some time to prepare, we still don't know much about the program and how it's going to work. I'm not saying this because I want to read it, I obviously want to, but it makes a lot of sense to release it beforehand.

People are desperate for more information, the public policy page info is very vague and doesn't clarify a lot. If this program lacks the R10 completeness check that means someone ineligible because of vague wording could spend 6-7 months waiting only to get their application rejected. If they release the guide now, people are going to read it and try to assimilate every bit of information in order to be better prepared and double-check their eligibility.

If they wait until the stream opening, we don't know whether the page will crash or not and there's going to be a flood of potential applicants trying to register either to apply ASAP or to create their profile beforehand while they wait for their test results. Many people see in this their only shot at PR, they won't waste time reading the application guide knowing there's people ahead of them filling the spots. I doubt that with the "stream-opening day madness" people stop to carefully read and realize "oh, I need to print, sign and scan this form by hand, but not the other form :p"
 

Fabiog

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They are sake job Annex A
If you started May 1st 2020 and you are still currently employed then May 1st of 2021 you will have completed one year of experience and you can apply for for the stream.
If you are not currently working and want to add the part time hours from student permit , we do not know if immigration will allow hours worked on student visa for this stream (I hope they do because I am in the same boat)

To be honest they should have just told everyone on a work permit or study visa to go online and apply without work experience, english tests etc.
Just fill in the required forms pay the 1000$ and done, the immigration targets would be achieved and surpassed easily and it wouldn't hurt the economy because most are already working.
 
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Frisk

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If you started May 1st 2020 and you are still currently employed then May 1st of 2021 you will have completed one year of experience and you can apply for for the stream.
If you are not currently working and want to add the part time hours from student permit , we do not know if immigration will allow hours worked on student visa for this stream (I hope they do because I am in the same boat)

To be honest they should have just told everyone on a work permit or study visa to go online and apply without work experience, english tests etc.
Just fill in the required forms pay the 1000$ and done, the immigration targets would be achieved and surpassed easily and it wouldn't hurt the economy because most are already working.
I doubt IRCC would lower their standards to that point having a full, eager pool of FSW applicants with +470 scores. Canada still prefers skilled immigration, that's why Express Entry applications have been prioritized compared to low-skill PR pathways and other pilots.

If IRCC opened a stream without requiring any of that, they might as well have their own "Green card lottery visa"
 

Fabiog

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If they wait until the stream opening, we don't know whether the page will crash or not and there's going to be a flood of potential applicants trying to register either to apply ASAP or to create their profile beforehand while they wait for their test results. Many people see in this their only shot at PR, they won't waste time reading the application guide knowing there's people ahead of them filling the spots. I doubt that with the "stream-opening day madness" people stop to carefully read and realize "oh, I need to print, sign and scan this form by hand, but not the other form :p"
I agree , I don't think you can create a profile and guess what your ielts score will be then hope you get same results on the ielts test, those people are just wasting a spot.
It will be a lot of stress and if the program last 4 weeks then it might be a miracle.
however this is some peoples only shot cos of low crs scores and many will be applying and hoping for the best , sometimes you might get approved if its 1560 hours and you have 1500 hours it depends on the person reviewing your application etc.
 

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I seriously doubt you can apply with 1500 hours and they'd let it slide. (I say this because my wife might be missing 10-20 hours by the end of June to apply for CIC and we'll have to wait for the new academic year in September to apply, since she doesn't work over the summer).
 

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So, we have to fill most of the form online, print it and write our name (even if it has "English" characters) and sign it? They should clarify in the guide.

I really hope IRCC releases the guide on Monday (or any time before Thursday) and gives people some time to prepare, we still don't know much about the program and how it's going to work. I'm not saying this because I want to read it, I obviously want to, but it makes a lot of sense to release it beforehand.

People are desperate for more information, the public policy page info is very vague and doesn't clarify a lot. If this program lacks the R10 completeness check that means someone ineligible because of vague wording could spend 6-7 months waiting only to get their application rejected. If they release the guide now, people are going to read it and try to assimilate every bit of information in order to be better prepared and double-check their eligibility.
What is "the R10 completeness check" ?
 

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What is "the R10 completeness check" ?
"At the completeness check, the processing office determines only whether the required documents are included. The validity or fraudulence of the information is assessed only if and when the application is placed into processing."

For EE, they basically check your application is complete and has all the documents (medical, police certificates, etc) according to IRCC's guidelines. If your application is incomplete, they'll return you the fee and you'll have to apply again.

It looks like IRCC won't do this with the new streams, your application will be processed until they find a discrepancy and then it'll be either approved or rejected. We might get ADR later on though.

I guess the purpose of this is to save time..?
 

ange1o

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I am eligible to the international student and foreign workers PR public policy streams. I also recently received an ITA under the PR CEC. Which one should I apply for?
 

Elias_Andvari

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I think the form he's talking about is the "Schedule A Background/Declaration: form. The reason this form might have to be filled out by hand is that there is one section to "write" your name in your native language. Idk if it applies to native English speakers or languages with English characters, but everyone else has to write it in the native letters or script. The word "written" is why I think we need to print it out and sign by hand.
So, we have to fill most of the form online, print it and write our name (even if it has "English" characters) and sign it? They should clarify in the guide.
Form "Additional Family Information" needs to be signed too.
If you are able to type your native alphabet name electronically, you should do that.
The reason why we need to print these forms out and to scan it back is because you literally can't sign those forms electronically. The form is secured and just does not allow you to place an electronic signature (try it out yourself to see what i'm talking about). The signature function is blocked.
That's why you fill out the form electronically, print it and sign manually, and then scan it back into a digital format.

This applies to the Schedule A Background/Declaration and the Additional Family Information forms. I think the Travel form doesn't have any signature, but i don't know if they are gonna have any additional forms of a similar type. Plus I also haven't checked other forms that might be required for your applications (common law, representative, etc.)
 
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bootes

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I am eligible to the international student and foreign workers PR public policy streams. I also recently received an ITA under the PR CEC. Which one should I apply for?
Honestly, I'd say process your ITA. Processing times for this program are still unknown and it'll be a fight just to get into the 90,000 total slots for this program.
 
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ElStu

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Hi
I am looking to apply for the new pathway for temporary to permanent residence on May 6. But I am eligible for the 2 programs, my question is can I apply for 2 programs, and how the process works. Some people saying payment should be done when submitting the application. And if anyone knows the required documents please let me know. Thanks in advance.
Apply only for one. Why would you apply for two? It costs money, why would you throw yours away?