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Happy to inform that, yesterday (what a wonderful Diwali Gift) we received renewed PR cards for my parents in mail. Thank you CanadaPost for the resumption of services.

TImeline

Original Landing : August 30, 2020
PR Cards Valid Until : August 30, 2025.
RO within the PR Card validity timeframe : less than 365 days (R.O not met).

Applied online for PR Renewal : July 21, 2025 (H&C grounds, complete with a 5 page letter & supporting documentation*)
Online request to resubmit photos in high resolution : August 21, 2025
New PR Cards Issued on : October 02, 2025
PR Cards Validity : October 02, 2030
PR Cards Received on : Oct 20, 2025

Parents age : (75 & 71)
Location : Current & at time of submitting application - Out of Country


*The five page H&C Letter (the supporting documents made the H&C package over 80 pages long) focused on:

- My Father having to take the role of Family Patriarch including legal obligations following the death of his elder brother (Supporting Exhibits - Death Certificate of my fathers elder brother)

- Economic barriers to returning to Canada during COVID 19 / Having to liquidate properties (self and families) during this time and ensure that they were sold at the right market value (Supporting Exhibits - sale deed of properties with value & ownership certificate of properties not yet sold with evaluation)

- Contribution Potential to Canada - Intention to Remit Funds and Retire in Canada without being a burden on the social services through the sale of these properties (Supporting Exhibits - Bank statements of showing savings including monies from the above sales)

- Evidence of ongoing and genuine intent to return - (Supporting Exhibits - Canadian Bank Accounts showing monthly charges, OHIP Card, Residential Lease of Condo, Ontario PHOTO ID Cards)

- Strong Family ties to Canada - (expressing their desire to be with me / Daughter-in-law AND their ONLY grandchild.

#happy
 
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Location : Current & at time of submitting application - Out of Country

Congratulations.

Am curious, however, how they got around the requirement to be IN Canada when they made the application for new PR cards. That is something many others are interested in navigating, to the extent possible. So this is information that would almost certainly be much appreciated.
 
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Congratulations.

Am curious, however, how they got around the requirement to be IN Canada when they made the application for new PR cards. That is something many others are interested in navigating, to the extent possible. So this is information that would almost certainly be much appreciated.
Yeah, about that…

We decided that we will focus more on the tone and the content of the letter and hope for the best.
We took a chance really TBH following the spirit of the law and applied as if they were here.
 
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Yeah, about that…

We decided that we will focus more on the tone and the content of the letter and hope for the best.
We took a chance really TBH following the spirit of the law and applied as if they were here.

Hum? Were they very clear they were abroad and applied for the PR card renewal while outside of Canada? Believe you now have to confirm you are applying from inside Canada. If IRCC knew they were currently outside Canada they would have had to pick up their card in person. The speed of processing also makes me feel like there may have been some confusion because H&C application usually take longer to process than a few months. The fact that they submitted proof that would be common for people actually living in Canada may have also lead to IRCC missing the fact that they hadn’t met RO and/or weren’t in Canada. As an aside their OHIP card is not valid because they didn’t meet the residency requirement required to qualify. When they return they must reapply.

This also doesn’t solve their lack of compliance with their RO. They could still be reported when entering Canada. If they don’t get reported they should remain in Canada for 730 days without leaving.
 
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Hum? Were they very clear they were abroad and applied for the PR card renewal while outside of Canada? Believe you now have to confirm you are applying from inside Canada. If IRCC knew they were currently outside Canada they would have had to pick up their card in person. The speed of processing also makes me feel like there may have been some confusion because H&C application usually take longer to process than a few months. The fact that they submitted proof that would be common for people actually living in Canada may have also lead to IRCC missing the fact that they hadn’t met RO and/or weren’t in Canada. As an aside their OHIP card is not valid because they didn’t meet the residency requirement required to qualify. When they return they must reapply.

This also doesn’t solve their lack of compliance with their RO. They could still be reported when entering Canada. If they don’t get reported they should remain in Canada for 730 days without leaving.
Looks like we broke a lot of rules…;)
 
Looks like we broke a lot of rules…;)

You might want to see a lawyer before you say or do anything more in regards to this.

If a PR card application was submitted with the "I am in Canada" box checked, or the equivalent in an online application, for a PR who was not in Canada at the time the application was submitted, that is a lot more serious than breaking a rule. That is misrepresentation for which the punitive consequences can be severe, including criminal prosecution for an offence punishable by up to five years imprisonment.

Perhaps I should say it could be a lot more serious if the PR does not get away with it . . . noting that I cannot guess what the odds are of getting caught or getting away with it; I just don't know . . . except to caution that I have seen, for example, an actual case (as detailed in an official decision) in which IRCC proceeded with inadmissibility proceedings for misrepresentation resulting in loss of PR status against a PR (now former PR) that were triggered by a PR card application many years after the misrepresentations as to presence in Canada were made . . . I don't recall, though, whether the misrepresentations were attendant an earlier PR card application or Port-of-Entry examination (the point being that not only is there no statute of limitations restricting how long it takes to proceed with inadmissibility proceedings for misrepresentation, as a practical matter there might not be any enforcement action for many years; misrepresentations once made hang over the PR's head, as to their status in Canada, for the rest of their life, even if they later become a citizen).

There is a 10 year statute of limitations for prosecution of a criminal offence based on misrepresentation (per Section 133.1(1) IRPA for the offence defined by Section 127 (a) IRPA). Likewise, a 10 year statute of limitations for the criminal offence of helping (aiding or abetting and such) someone make misrepresentations attendant immigration transactions. I am guessing that you assisted your parents in this process; here is what could, potentially, be the basis for a criminal charge:
126 Every person who knowingly counsels, induces, aids or abets or attempts to counsel, induce, aid or abet any person to directly or indirectly misrepresent or withhold material facts relating to a relevant matter that induces or could induce an error in the administration of this Act is guilty of an offence. Section 126 IRPA.

My sense is that unless there are aggravating circumstances, criminal prosecution is unusual, at least not common. Probably (cautioning I do not really know) a fairly low risk of being prosecuted criminally.

And, again, I do know how much risk there is that IRCC or CBSA will, so to say, catch this, or what the risk is that there will be inadmissibility proceedings for misrepresentation. Just a guess, but maybe strong H&C factors will reduce the risk of inadmissibility proceedings if IRCC (or immigration officials in CBSA during a Port-of-Entry examination) see there has been a misrepresentation. There may be other factors which could weigh things in favour of letting this slide. But, make no mistake, misrepresentation tends to be taken rather seriously.

I also do not know whether having submitted information with the application that makes it clear the PR is not in Canada would mean there was no actual misrepresentation. I have listened to lawyers talk (in podcasts) about the difficulty of getting new PR cards on behalf of clients who are still outside Canada, saying they can do it without revealing just how it is they go about doing that. (Thinking you might be able to illuminate how it can be done . . . albeit without making any misrepresentations.)

I am afraid, nonetheless, that "congratulations" may have been pre-mature. The big test will be how it goes when they make their application for permission to physically enter Canada when they next return here; that is, the big test will be how it goes when they go through the Port-of-Entry when they next arrive here. The extent to which technology has enhanced border screening, including screening of returning Canadians (PRs and citizens), which almost certainly now involves AI assisted screening, undoubtedly increases the risks compared to the past, but how much so I do not know.

What I do know is that if misrepresentations were made in the PR card application, there is at least a real risk of getting caught and if caught the consequences can be severe (how severe depends, in part, on how losing PR status will affect the individual). That is, the risk may be low (emphasis on it just might be low, but I do not know that with any confidence, I do not know what the risk actually is) BUT it is real enough and the potential consequences are serious enough to consider your next steps very carefully.

SO . . . I tend to stay away from giving advice (not my bailiwick) . . . BUT, I have enough background and experience in certain fields (without going into detail) to feel obliged to offer some advice here:

STOP talking about this until you have met with a lawyer, shared the full story in detail with a reputable immigration lawyer, and you are either being assisted by the lawyer going forward or, at the least, obtained sufficient advice to otherwise proceed.

You can share everything with a lawyer in confidence (that is, with assurance in law what is divulged is confidential). Otherwise, remember that anonymous online communications are only superficially anonymous, and likewise private digital communication generally is only superficially private. That is, if you say it, law enforcement in particular can find it. A Canadian lawyer might chuckle and think such concerns lean paranoid. My advice is get such advice from a competent lawyer before proceeding otherwise.

That said, my guess is that you and your parents are likely to see how it goes, to take your chances so to say. Nonetheless, I feel obligated to give some cautionary advice here (noting, again, even though I share a lot of information, including analysis of information, I mostly steer away from giving advice), advice to not say anything more about this until you talk to a lawyer in a confidential relationship setting.
 
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You might want to see a lawyer before you say or do anything more in regards to this.

If a PR card application was submitted with the "I am in Canada" box checked, or the equivalent in an online application, for a PR who was not in Canada at the time the application was submitted, that is a lot more serious than breaking a rule. That is misrepresentation for which the punitive consequences can be severe, including criminal prosecution for an offence punishable by up to five years imprisonment.

Perhaps I should say it could be a lot more serious if the PR does not get away with it . . . noting that I cannot guess what the odds are of getting caught or getting away with it; I just don't know . . . except to caution that I have seen, for example, an actual case (as detailed in an official decision) in which IRCC proceeded with inadmissibility proceedings for misrepresentation resulting in loss of PR status against a PR (now former PR) that were triggered by a PR card application many years after the misrepresentations as to presence in Canada were made . . . I don't recall, though, whether the misrepresentations were attendant an earlier PR card application or Port-of-Entry examination (the point being that not only is there no statute of limitations restricting how long it takes to proceed with inadmissibility proceedings for misrepresentation, as a practical matter there might not be any enforcement action for many years; misrepresentations once made hang over the PR's head, as to their status in Canada, for the rest of their life, even if they later become a citizen).

There is a 10 year statute of limitations for prosecution of a criminal offence based on misrepresentation (per Section 133.1(1) IRPA for the offence defined by Section 127 (a) IRPA). Likewise, a 10 year statute of limitations for the criminal offence of helping (aiding or abetting and such) someone make misrepresentations attendant immigration transactions. I am guessing that you assisted your parents in this process; here is what could, potentially, be the basis for a criminal charge:
126 Every person who knowingly counsels, induces, aids or abets or attempts to counsel, induce, aid or abet any person to directly or indirectly misrepresent or withhold material facts relating to a relevant matter that induces or could induce an error in the administration of this Act is guilty of an offence. Section 126 IRPA.

My sense is that unless there are aggravating circumstances, criminal prosecution is unusual, at least not common. Probably (cautioning I do not really know) a fairly low risk of being prosecuted criminally.

And, again, I do know how much risk there is that IRCC or CBSA will, so to say, catch this, or what the risk is that there will be inadmissibility proceedings for misrepresentation. Just a guess, but maybe strong H&C factors will reduce the risk of inadmissibility proceedings if IRCC (or immigration officials in CBSA during a Port-of-Entry examination) see there has been a misrepresentation. There may be other factors which could weigh things in favour of letting this slide. But, make no mistake, misrepresentation tends to be taken rather seriously.

I also do not know whether having submitted information with the application that makes it clear the PR is not in Canada would mean there was no actual misrepresentation. I have listened to lawyers talk (in podcasts) about the difficulty of getting new PR cards on behalf of clients who are still outside Canada, saying they can do it without revealing just how it is they go about doing that. (Thinking you might be able to illuminate how it can be done . . . albeit without making any misrepresentations.)

I am afraid, nonetheless, that "congratulations" may have been pre-mature. The big test will be how it goes when they make their application for permission to physically enter Canada when they next return here; that is, the big test will be how it goes when they go through the Port-of-Entry when they next arrive here. The extent to which technology has enhanced border screening, including screening of returning Canadians (PRs and citizens), which almost certainly now involves AI assisted screening, undoubtedly increases the risks compared to the past, but how much so I do not know.

What I do know is that if misrepresentations were made in the PR card application, there is at least a real risk of getting caught and if caught the consequences can be severe (how severe depends, in part, on how losing PR status will affect the individual). That is, the risk may be low (emphasis on it just might be low, but I do not know that with any confidence, I do not know what the risk actually is) BUT it is real enough and the potential consequences are serious enough to consider your next steps very carefully.

SO . . . I tend to stay away from giving advice (not my bailiwick) . . . BUT, I have enough background and experience in certain fields (without going into detail) to feel obliged to offer some advice here:

STOP talking about this until you have met with a lawyer, shared the full story in detail with a reputable immigration lawyer, and you are either being assisted by the lawyer going forward or, at the least, obtained sufficient advice to otherwise proceed.

You can share everything with a lawyer in confidence (that is, with assurance in law what is divulged is confidential). Otherwise, remember that anonymous online communications are only superficially anonymous, and likewise private digital communication generally is only superficially private. That is, if you say it, law enforcement in particular can find it. A Canadian lawyer might chuckle and think such concerns lean paranoid. My advice is get such advice from a competent lawyer before proceeding otherwise.

That said, my guess is that you and your parents are likely to see how it goes, to take your chances so to say. Nonetheless, I feel obligated to give some cautionary advice here (noting, again, even though I share a lot of information, including analysis of information, I mostly steer away from giving advice), advice to not say anything more about this until you talk to a lawyer in a confidential relationship setting.
Thanks for the advice.

Will report back on "how it went" when they come bk to Canada.

Cheers
 
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Some Context; Further Observations . . . apart from the OP's situation . . .

At the risk of repeating what I have posted before, the requirement to be IN Canada when making a PR card application warrants some further explanation or clarification apart from the OP's situation. And, perhaps, along with the dramatic increase in the use of AI (mostly behind the scenes), this may also warrant further revision of my view that IRCC does not engage in gotcha games.

The requirement that a PR be IN Canada when they make the application is prescribed by regulation, section 56(2) IRPR in particular, which as to this is simple and straight-forward, stating:
An application for a permanent resident card must be made in Canada and include . . .
This regulation goes on to enumerate what must be included in the application.

This was part of the original full scale revision of Canadian immigration law nearly a quarter century ago, and has been in effect since 2004. So being IN Canada when making a PR card application has been a requirement for more than two decades. It was not until June 2022, however, that the application for a PR card was revised so that the PR had to declare they were in Canada to make the application.
(Compare application IMM 5444 (02-2020)E, which asks for the applicant's current address but does not require any declaration the PR is physically located in Canada, with application IMM 5444 (06-2022)E, which was to be used for either a PR card or a PR TD application, and had multiple options in regards to whether the applicant was in or outside Canada, which was in turn soon revised, in IMM 5444 (03-2023), simplifying the options to just two, IN Canada or outside Canada, and based on which box is checked the interactive pdf form would automatically designate the application as either a PR card application (for applicant IN Canada) or PR TD application (for applicant outside Canada).​

Thing was, prior to the 2022 changes a lot of PRs were applying for a new PR card even though they were outside Canada when they made the application. It seems most, perhaps nearly all these were nonetheless processed resulting in approved applications and a PR card being issued. Not all, however, and there was a case in which one PR whose PR card application was denied on the basis he was not IN Canada when he made the application appealed. The Federal Court set the decision aside, basically interpreting the regulation requiring a PR card application be made IN Canada did not necessarily require the PR to be in Canada in person (please forgive me if I decline to try unraveling that one), ruling in particular that the fact the PR was not personally in Canada when the application is made is NOT a sufficient ground for denying the application.

CIC/IRCC continued to state, in its instructions, that to be eligible for a new PR card the PR must be IN Canada when they make the application, but because of the FC ruling IRCC was not enforcing it.

Then in 2022 IRCC revised the application form to require the applicant declare whether they were IN or outside Canada.

Some might protest that the FC had already ruled that being IN Canada at the time the application is made is NOT required, so how could IRCC require PRs to be IN Canada when making the application.

That misses the point and the operational effect of adding this to the application. Even though IRCC cannot require a PR to be IN Canada when making a PR card application (per the FC interpretation of the applicable statutes and regulations), IRCC can require them to declare whether they are IN or outside Canada when making the application. The PR's presence in or absence from Canada when making the application is at the least relevant, so requiring applicants to declare this information is entirely legitimate.

Thus, IRCC cannot reject/deny a PR card application on grounds the PR was outside Canada at the time the application was made. But it can deny the application for misrepresentation if the applicant falsely declares they are in Canada when making the application.

The tricky, gotcha aspect of this is that the 2023 change in the application form in effect forces PRs to claim to be in Canada in order to make an application for a PR card.

I have heard lawyers talk about this in podcasts and claim they can nonetheless successfully apply for a new PR card on behalf of a client outside Canada (since, after all, it appears the FC ruling is still valid, that IRCC cannot enforce a requirement to be IN Canada when applying), but that this requires some creative lawyering. They did not explain how. The OP's post suggested, I thought, a way to do this.

As I initially responded, that would be of much interest to many others who are interested in navigating around the requirement. That is, navigating around it without making misrepresentations jeopardizing their status in Canada.

For now, even if the OPs parents are OK, no problem emerging when they arrive here, no problem emerging in the foreseeable future, this does not represent a way for others to navigate the process. Remember, what works for one is no assurance it will work for someone else, and if it involves stepping over some rules, it is not an indicator of what has good odds of working for someone else.


The AA/AI Side:

Without fully diving into the AA/AI side (see thread titled Automated Decision-Making -- "Advanced Analytics" -- and AI, yeah that AI, so maybe some GOTCHA), make no mistake, the Canadian government has been dramatically expanding the role of Advanced Analytics (AA) and other AI components (including machine learning) in processing applications and other transactions, including in particular immigration applications and transactions. There is far, far more we do not know in regards to what this involves, and even much more than that we do not know about how this will affect things going forward, notwithstanding some readily accessible information about early pilot projects (time flies, some of these going back seven or eight years), and what might be accessible through carefully composed ATI requests (too much for me to do for now; at the moment, for example, I have on my desk a disc containing many hundreds of still-to-be-read pdf pages of RPD decisions about cessation, recently obtained through my last request, and I have recently increased my paying-workload which also involves a huge amount of researching other subjects of law in other jurisdictions, so lots and lots on my plate, with only a very old brain in an obese body with tired eyes to manage it all). Main thing is that AA and AI are dramatically changing things like triage screening and data analysis, and it is very likely this is dramatically cutting the nature and scope of discretion in processing transactions, quite likely flagging significantly more cases than a human would. That is, AI likely means more gotcha like decision-making.

That is, the point here is that AA/AI also likely means there is an increasing risk things that used to slide by will get flagged and potentially cause problems. That is gotcha on a different level (increased interdiction of PRs in RO breach at the PoE for example). Whether that happens immediately, or in the course of processing the particular transaction, or it appears to have not caused a problem but gets flagged and causes a problem later down the road, is a deep and complicated subject for another time, another thread.

That said, see . . .
Given some other conversations of late . . .

Some AI/automated processing related speculation:

It is quite possible that the combination of online applications and machine processing will facilitate some fudging of information, at least during these transition periods (which will take many years), which might make it appear easy to fudge some kinds of information in the short term. Some might even interpret patterns of letting certain things slide to mean it is OK, that IRCC is fine with it. For example, some may think that it is overtly OK to not divulge having had visitor status in other countries in response to Q 13 in a citizenship application (despite Q 13 explicitly asking for disclosure of all immigration status and including visitor status in the drop down list) because so far, with only minimal exception, those who have not divulged past visitor status have not encountered problems because of it. Maybe that should be that they have apparently not encountered a problem -- there are scores and scores of citizenship applicants bitterly complaining they do not know why their application has gotten bogged down in what they believe to be security or other prohibition screening, delaying processing by a year or two longer than most, who subscribe to a TLDR approach to the homework which might (and for many, if not most, likely will) reveal some clues about why their application has run into problems. Just because some applicants have been sailing through the process without a problem, all the way to taking the oath, does not come anywhere near close to confirming this (failing to disclose all immigration status, including visitor status, in response to Q 13) is OK.

In any event . . .

Best approach: Follow the instructions and honestly respond to questions.
 
You might want to see a lawyer before you say or do anything more in regards to this.

If a PR card application was submitted with the "I am in Canada" box checked, or the equivalent in an online application, for a PR who was not in Canada at the time the application was submitted, that is a lot more serious than breaking a rule. That is misrepresentation for which the punitive consequences can be severe, including criminal prosecution for an offence punishable by up to five years imprisonment.

Perhaps I should say it could be a lot more serious if the PR does not get away with it . . . noting that I cannot guess what the odds are of getting caught or getting away with it; I just don't know . . . except to caution that I have seen, for example, an actual case (as detailed in an official decision) in which IRCC proceeded with inadmissibility proceedings for misrepresentation resulting in loss of PR status against a PR (now former PR) that were triggered by a PR card application many years after the misrepresentations as to presence in Canada were made . . . I don't recall, though, whether the misrepresentations were attendant an earlier PR card application or Port-of-Entry examination (the point being that not only is there no statute of limitations restricting how long it takes to proceed with inadmissibility proceedings for misrepresentation, as a practical matter there might not be any enforcement action for many years; misrepresentations once made hang over the PR's head, as to their status in Canada, for the rest of their life, even if they later become a citizen).

There is a 10 year statute of limitations for prosecution of a criminal offence based on misrepresentation (per Section 133.1(1) IRPA for the offence defined by Section 127 (a) IRPA). Likewise, a 10 year statute of limitations for the criminal offence of helping (aiding or abetting and such) someone make misrepresentations attendant immigration transactions. I am guessing that you assisted your parents in this process; here is what could, potentially, be the basis for a criminal charge:
126 Every person who knowingly counsels, induces, aids or abets or attempts to counsel, induce, aid or abet any person to directly or indirectly misrepresent or withhold material facts relating to a relevant matter that induces or could induce an error in the administration of this Act is guilty of an offence. Section 126 IRPA.

My sense is that unless there are aggravating circumstances, criminal prosecution is unusual, at least not common. Probably (cautioning I do not really know) a fairly low risk of being prosecuted criminally.

And, again, I do know how much risk there is that IRCC or CBSA will, so to say, catch this, or what the risk is that there will be inadmissibility proceedings for misrepresentation. Just a guess, but maybe strong H&C factors will reduce the risk of inadmissibility proceedings if IRCC (or immigration officials in CBSA during a Port-of-Entry examination) see there has been a misrepresentation. There may be other factors which could weigh things in favour of letting this slide. But, make no mistake, misrepresentation tends to be taken rather seriously.

I also do not know whether having submitted information with the application that makes it clear the PR is not in Canada would mean there was no actual misrepresentation. I have listened to lawyers talk (in podcasts) about the difficulty of getting new PR cards on behalf of clients who are still outside Canada, saying they can do it without revealing just how it is they go about doing that. (Thinking you might be able to illuminate how it can be done . . . albeit without making any misrepresentations.)

I am afraid, nonetheless, that "congratulations" may have been pre-mature. The big test will be how it goes when they make their application for permission to physically enter Canada when they next return here; that is, the big test will be how it goes when they go through the Port-of-Entry when they next arrive here. The extent to which technology has enhanced border screening, including screening of returning Canadians (PRs and citizens), which almost certainly now involves AI assisted screening, undoubtedly increases the risks compared to the past, but how much so I do not know.

What I do know is that if misrepresentations were made in the PR card application, there is at least a real risk of getting caught and if caught the consequences can be severe (how severe depends, in part, on how losing PR status will affect the individual). That is, the risk may be low (emphasis on it just might be low, but I do not know that with any confidence, I do not know what the risk actually is) BUT it is real enough and the potential consequences are serious enough to consider your next steps very carefully.

SO . . . I tend to stay away from giving advice (not my bailiwick) . . . BUT, I have enough background and experience in certain fields (without going into detail) to feel obliged to offer some advice here:

STOP talking about this until you have met with a lawyer, shared the full story in detail with a reputable immigration lawyer, and you are either being assisted by the lawyer going forward or, at the least, obtained sufficient advice to otherwise proceed.

You can share everything with a lawyer in confidence (that is, with assurance in law what is divulged is confidential). Otherwise, remember that anonymous online communications are only superficially anonymous, and likewise private digital communication generally is only superficially private. That is, if you say it, law enforcement in particular can find it. A Canadian lawyer might chuckle and think such concerns lean paranoid. My advice is get such advice from a competent lawyer before proceeding otherwise.

That said, my guess is that you and your parents are likely to see how it goes, to take your chances so to say. Nonetheless, I feel obligated to give some cautionary advice here (noting, again, even though I share a lot of information, including analysis of information, I mostly steer away from giving advice), advice to not say anything more about this until you talk to a lawyer in a confidential relationship setting.

Agree that a consultation with a lawyer is a good idea. Based on other posts IRCC appeared to have started verifying CBSA entry/exit records but clearly did not in this case. These are the types of issues that also can get picked up during a citizenship application.
 
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Based on other posts IRCC appeared to have started verifying CBSA entry/exit records but clearly did not in this case. These are the types of issues that also can get picked up during a citizenship application.

Beyond the scope of well-worn processing patterns (such as those underlying the conventional wisdom for PRs in RO breach, and in Canada, to wait to apply for a new PR card only after they have stayed long enough to be in RO compliance), trying to figure out what went on under-the-hood in particular cases during the most stable periods of time tends to be error-ridden speculation. The ongoing rapid development and implementation of AA/AI, and other technologies, makes this even more speculative.

So, even though I have some fairly distinct impressions about some aspects of what was going on, what happened, and what potentially could be coming, none of that is anywhere near sure enough to suggest the OP take it into consideration in making decisions about how to navigate this going forward . . . except what I already described related to why I advised the OP to see a lawyer, and in the meantime stop talking about it at least until they get a lawyer's advice about how to proceed . . . but as I said in that post, my guess is the OP and parents will take their chances, wait to see how it goes when they come to Canada, so it would imprudent and nonproductive to wrestle further with the OP's case (OP's parents' cases), especially since there are obviously some additional factors that could have a big influence and it would be unwise for the OP to share any more about that (again, at least until they have some guidance from a lawyer).

Moreover, in regards to the OP's (parents') case, there are some things that do not add up, that are not consistent with what we do know, so beyond what we can understand without more information and explanation.

You have already referenced the most salient example: the processing time makes no sense for a case relying on H&C relief. The fact that new photos needed to be submitted also poses a challenge in regards to the processing time. And, since these had to be two separate PR card applications, the fact (as OP reported here) that both appear to have been processed and finalized on the same (or very near the same) time line is also incongruous, especially when new photos were required.

My sense is that there was some straying outside the facts in addition to checking the box declaring they were IN Canada, such that the application as submitted appeared, on its face, to meet the requirements for automated processing despite the photo issue, meaning I suspect the applications indicated RO compliance.

Meanwhile I am quite certain that automated processing, including AA/AI, is introducing a lot of change, with much more change to come, especially in regards to variables and the criteria that dictate whether an application can be handled in the automated processing stream (for applications that are not complex) or will be handled as a complex or highly complex case. I suspect the automated processing stream is still very much undergoing development issues, growing pains one might say, so for now, in addition to improved screening for many applications, the process is likely more prone to incongruous results and errors going both ways, excessively flagging some applications for more difficult and lengthy complex processing, while giving some applications a pass they do not deserve.

Bottom-line here: I suspect that somehow these applications were structured in a way that allowed them to go through automated processing (somehow despite the photo issues and H&C submissions), probably mistakenly so, and if there was a human review before final approval and issuance of new cards, that was a perfunctory review relying on the automated process approval, overlooking details that could have (probably should have) flagged the applications for further screening.

My sense is that cross-referencing CBSA travel history is not a part of automated processing but, rather, happens in processing complex and high complex cases (at least for now), and perhaps only some, those flagged for cross-referencing travel history. It is likely that AA/AI plays a significant role in which applications get flagged, although processing officers can also flag applications for additional screening and scrutiny including cross-referencing travel history among other means of cross-checking applications and the information in them.

Which leads to what's coming down the road. You are absolutely spot on about misrepresentation cases getting picked up during processing of a citizenship application. If you peruse misrepresentation cases involving PRs, that happens quite a lot; it is often the case that an alleged misrepresentation was spotted during citizenship application processing. In other cases, it has been in the course of processing a later PR card application that IRCC spotted the alleged misrepresentation. But as I said in response to the OP, the big test will be how it goes at the PoE when they arrive here. I do not know what the odds are, not at all, other than there is no doubt there is a real risk that the system will flag them for further screening at the PoE . . . and if it does, how they answer questions could have a huge impact on what happens, how it goes. Best to be going into that with some advice from a good Canadian immigration lawyer. The OP says he will update the forum about how it goes. Will be interesting to see.