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[Maria Odette]

On the mean time cec jokers have a protest on sep 17 in torronto at 2pm at bloor and younge (I don't know what that is it is not a typo ) .
What a f ing entitlement ,no wonder why canada is turning into this level .

Where is this information?

 

[PRANIT01]

Where is this information?

It was a screenshot posted anonymous inside the group I am in,someone posted Annonymous.

 

[GandiBaat]

As a mother of 2 teenage girls, I am offended on their behalf .

My apologies. As a brother to five teenage cousins, I have my moments .

 

[GandiBaat]

I honestly don’t get what CEC wants. There are like 1mi former students on PGWP that are constantly renewing plus 1mi incoming students. While there are only 200k available PR for EE and PNP. Like even if Canada went nuts and gave all the available PRs to them, there would still be people left out. They were sold a fake dream of east PR, which may have been real when there were like 200k real students, that got a real and relevant education in the past. Now they think their strip mall diploma and timmies work experience deserve the same with 1mi others like them or better…

Here is the thing, with their canadian college diplomas etc, they have better chance at PR! Because the system favours canadian creds and experience! And yet the whining!

 

[Shadow09]

Is it still worth it to move to Canada in 2024? Looking at all the negativity I'm feeling a little disheartened.

 

[Impatient Dankaroo]

Is it still worth it to move to Canada in 2024? Looking at all the negativity I'm feeling a little disheartened.

If you are in USA [and have a good job and are settled], stay there mate. You're taking a big hit to your SOL when you move here, Add in the housing, COL and taxes, it's hard to make an argument. And if you're Indian, I assume you are since there'd be no other reason to move, do know Anti-Indian is on the rise fuelled by the diploma international students

 

[navinball]

Is it still worth it to move to Canada in 2024? Looking at all the negativity I'm feeling a little disheartened.

If you can solve python leetcode problems.

 

[GandiBaat]

Is it still worth it to move to Canada in 2024? Looking at all the negativity I'm feeling a little disheartened.

It has been same as always. Move to Canada with a job and you will do great. Trying to get a job here without having the mythical Canadian experience will lead to nothing but heartache.

 

[GandiBaat]

If you can solve python leetcode problems.

Python part is optional. My language of choice for instance is Java because I have to write Java code for my job.

You should be able to crack 150 https://neetcode.io . Every 6 months I do a marathon on neetcode (all the way back when it was just Blind-75). That gives me a good jog and keeps my muscle memory of all basic patterns alive.

Second thing is Faheem's courses on Design interview. Best 200 or so dollars that I spent.

 

[GandiBaat]

If you are in USA [and have a good job and are settled], stay there mate. You're taking a big hit to your SOL when you move here, Add in the housing, COL and taxes, it's hard to make an argument. And if you're Indian, I assume you are since there'd be no other reason to move, do know Anti-Indian is on the rise fuelled by the diploma international students

No matter how anti India Canada becomes, it can not hold a candle to Anti-Indian sentiment in USA. Canadians will be canadians and will only bitch about you behind your back and deny you rentals quietly when they can. That bit is not hard to solve. Most Indian slum-landlords prefer Indians. Lastly, rental companies based on REITs give no two hoots.

Anyways, if you start early and have no reservations about working in USA, you can get the citizenship, close all your bank accounts and go to USA on NAFTA visa.

 

[iSaidGoodDay]

It has been same as always. Move to Canada with a job and you will do great. Trying to get a job here without having the mythical Canadian experience will lead to nothing but heartache.

100%! One has to figure out which part of life is something they'll find it hard to solve - downpayment for a house or a job - if one can sort those two, nothing to worry about. And, both are largely fixable for non entry level folks in tech or management.

Btw, lack of Canadian experience can be solved by networking, contract jobs pre-landing, advisory roles, etc. I know a Director from McKinsey from EU who was being turned down in Canada for lack of "Canadian exp" even for very junior roles(e.g. Associate), but at the same time I know folks who were Assistant Managers in companies like McKinsey who landed a Strategy Lead roles with higher pay in Canada. The difference was, one relied on "spray and pray", the other one saw each position as a unique opportunity and leveraged mentors, did coffee-chats, etc.

For ambitious entry level folks, getting a mentor is extremely helpful. It requires a bit of time pre-landing though, which right now is super rare to see within our immigrant cohorts.

 

[GandiBaat]

100%! One has to figure out which part of life is something they'll find it hard to solve - downpayment for a house or a job - if one can sort those two, nothing to worry about. And, both are largely fixable for non entry level folks in tech or management.

Btw, lack of Canadian experience can be solved by networking, contract jobs pre-landing, advisory roles, etc. I know a Director from McKinsey from EU who was being turned down in Canada for lack of "Canadian exp" even for very junior roles(e.g. Associate), but at the same time I know folks who were Assistant Managers in companies like McKinsey who landed a Strategy Lead roles with higher pay in Canada. The difference was, one relied on "spray and pray", the other one saw each position as a unique opportunity and leveraged mentors, did coffee-chats, etc.

For ambitious entry level folks, getting a mentor is extremely helpful. It requires a bit of time pre-landing though, which right now is super rare to see within our immigrant cohorts.

Look, if you know how to hunt contract jobs (and are good enough to be known by the word of mouth) and you have enough network in Canada; I guess this question (is it worth to move to X) will not be even asked. You will follow contracts as people used to follow caribou in past.

I am only talking from the perspective of someone who is neither. I have always got a little bit of leg up due to my former colleagues and college mates. But then twice in my career I went on my own way. It worked out well for me.

Coming to Canada, for me the problem was that I had just one month of time to plan out everything. My team and subsidiary was closed, I had three months to get the next job. I was not supposed to do anything for 2 months of that and in one month only very little from home to support "sunset" of my subsidiary. For two months, I did absolutely nothing. Sleeping, going out with my wife to all the known tourist spots of Karnataka and even a trip to Nilgiri. In the last month, I decided to do something about the position I needed. I had many offers from teams in India but then I knew I wanted to move outside India. If not for anything then to see what the hell the fuss is all about.

One option was Australia but I decided against it (even though I had PR over there). My friend who was in management and a PR in Australia like me got a reject from Australia teams. So I thought, its better that we both move to one place in Canada because immigration is cakewalk in Canada compared to USA. I found one subsidiary in Canada for my friend which were desparately looking for a middle manager for a long time, he fit in there because they wont have to do a full loop on him. There was no engineering position there, sucks! So I found another one that had and just joined there. My visa etc was processed in less than a month and rest is history.

As they say there are many ways to salvation.

 

[imransyed]

Is it still worth it to move to Canada in 2024? Looking at all the negativity I'm feeling a little disheartened.

It entirely depends on your personal situation tbh, like it always has.
If you have the means to find a job or get into a business, the negativity or positivity shouldnt matter.
IT people have already spoken. From a non-IT sub 60k annual salary (median wage) perspective, it will be very tough. But still doable.

I got very sad and depressed after coming here and even having a job around the median wage of canada. I spoke to many people here and otherwise privately and got some insanely good advice. I got some books and got to the grind of making myself happy. I am still in a similar financially disastrous situation but my pov has changed a lot.
I am not saving anything, cant afford a studio apartment in the city I work in, eating out very less and have no vices. I will never be able to save enough for a downpayment here continuing on my current job trajectory but I asked myself, do i need to? I am single, I dont have anybody else's financial responsibility on me so that was a huge factor too. All the negativity is absolutely true and its even worse, but how does it affect me personally? That's how i decided to be at peace.
And downpayment will have to come from Bank of Mom and Dad or from my income outside Canada. This is fine by me too, I am not looking at real estate investment, only personal residence.

In the end, you are responsible only for yourself and your bills. If you can take care of that, mute the noise and do your thing. If you can't, then delay landing.

P.s. because of my subjective privileges, I am leaving Canada in Feb to be a part of my family's business in middle east, earn enough for a downpayment or even to buy cash outright, prepare for GMAT and/or upskill dramatically to come back in 2025-26 to get the passport.
Hopefully by then things macroeconomically should stabilize too. Right now the govt. is hell bent on increasing unemployment because of their covid mess. This does not really affect me but there is a general sense of growing despair in the country and I don't want to be a part of that.

 

[Impatient Dankaroo]

It entirely depends on your personal situation tbh, like it always has.
If you have the means to find a job or get into a business, the negativity or positivity shouldnt matter.
IT people have already spoken. From a non-IT sub 60k annual salary (median wage) perspective, it will be very tough. But still doable.

I got very sad and depressed after coming here and even having a job around the median wage of canada. I spoke to many people here and otherwise privately and got some insanely good advice. I got some books and got to the grind of making myself happy. I am still in a similar financially disastrous situation but my pov has changed a lot.
I am not saving anything, cant afford a studio apartment in the city I work in, eating out very less and have no vices. I will never be able to save enough for a downpayment here continuing on my current job trajectory but I asked myself, do i need to? I am single, I dont have anybody else's financial responsibility on me so that was a huge factor too. All the negativity is absolutely true and its even worse, but how does it affect me personally? That's how i decided to be at peace.
And downpayment will have to come from Bank of Mom and Dad or from my income outside Canada. This is fine by me too, I am not looking at real estate investment, only personal residence.

In the end, you are responsible only for yourself and your bills. If you can take care of that, mute the noise and do your thing. If you can't, then delay landing.

P.s. because of my subjective privileges, I am leaving Canada in Feb to be a part of my family's business in middle east, earn enough for a downpayment or even to buy cash outright, prepare for GMAT and/or upskill dramatically to come back in 2025-26 to get the passport.
Hopefully by then things macroeconomically should stabilize too. Right now the govt. is hell bent on increasing unemployment because of their covid mess. This does not really affect me but there is a general sense of growing despair in the country and I don't want to be a part of that.

Buy cash outright? If you got 700,000 lying around then indeed you are privileged lol

 

[imransyed]

Buy cash outright? If you got 700,000 lying around then indeed you are privileged lol

LMAO
No I don't have that money lying around, I have some but I can see a way of getting there in 2-3 years time outside Canada. Again, I acknowledge the privilege here too lol but I really thought I could do it on my own in Canada without relying on back home money. I cant.
Also aiming for something under 500, does not have to be GTA or even ON but has to be detached freehold.
Capitulation of house prices is already starting in the areas surrounding GTA, who knows where we will be in another 2 years.

Edit:
I follow some new Indian-Canadians on twitter who saw the mania of Covid house prices and sold for immense gains in less than 5 years of buying and now they are all renting happily waiting on the sidelines and enjoying the fall while making 5%+ with GICs/govt bonds or dividends.
Median house prices to median wage balance will be restored and it will be quite painful. The narrative of supply-demand, immigration, zoning, nothing will stop it. There is a rug pull happening in Canada right now and its ugly.
If they try extending amortizations to 90 years: stagflation
If they try lowering interest rates abruptly: Canadian Pesos