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peterpnp

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Feb 13, 2022
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MudMoverGeorge said:
poor people, I feel you. I'd guess most likely it's just bcz your files stuck btwn the PR application file system and the actual case processing system, hence the agents answering the phone calls & emails don't have the access to them thus the "file is not yet in the system", "did not receive my application " answers. It's just like many others before(and it's still the case for lots of people even now! How disg*sting that is!). And all of this nonsense it's bcz the st*pid and inc*mpetent system they designed has failed to upload the files to the case processing system. someone got the luck of being treated with manual intervention and got FN/AOR.
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it's ridiculous that they don't have access to the system they design and let applicants use. i also tried to use webform a few times to ask the officers about my application, they all said they don't see my application. i really felt very disappointed towards the Canadian working culture, particularly the IRCC culture.
 
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jeffjay

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Jan 5, 2022
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peterpnp said:
it's ridiculous that they don't have access to the system they design and let applicants use. i also tried to use webform a few times to ask the officers about my application, they all said they don't see my application. i really felt very disappointed towards the Canadian working culture, particularly the IRCC culture.
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I suspect they use some Amazon web service to host this pr portal and use some automatic tool there to validate some information and then upload those documents to their GCMS. When those tools fail, they have to do the process manually and they probably don't have enough people trained for this manual process. Most FNs to date are given to applications that have no system failure. We heard some people submitted June 2021 with erroneous portal status get AOR. But I am not sure if anyone from July 2021 with erroneous portal status got AOR. It would be very appreciated if people with erroneous portal status can update us if they get AOR.
 
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moscatojuices

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Feb 21, 2022
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peterpnp said:
it's ridiculous that they don't have access to the system they design and let applicants use. i also tried to use webform a few times to ask the officers about my application, they all said they don't see my application. i really felt very disappointed towards the Canadian working culture, particularly the IRCC culture.
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I wouldn't use IRCC as a gauge for "Canadian working culture" - IRCC is government, government has its own working culture and I assure you it is very, very different from how businesses operate.
 
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MudMoverGeorge

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Jun 7, 2022
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jeffjay said:
I suspect they use some Amazon web service to host this pr portal and use some automatic tool there to validate some information and then upload those documents to their GCMS. When those tools fail, they have to do the process manually and they probably don't have enough people trained for this manual process. Most FNs to date are given to applications that have no system failure. We heard some people submitted June 2021 with erroneous portal status get AOR. But I am not sure if anyone from July 2021 with erroneous portal status got AOR. It would be very appreciated if people with erroneous portal status can update us if they get AOR.
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I was id 13 which is "supporting doc upload fail" with a few "imm" forms failed to be uploaded to GCMS. AR was mid-May 2021, after about 13.5 mo waiting, I got the luck to have the manual treatment and got AOR near the very end of Jun 2022. I totally agree with your analysis. And what's even more absurd is, that they chose to turn everyone's status id to 7 "submitted"(instead of dealing with the problem effectively!) to just hide those precious information/updates that the official is reluctant to give but could bring extremely comforting to those suffering souls, and possibly, doing that MANUALLY, or partially manually at least, bcz I read on the internet that the time that people got turned to id 7 was different. Whether it is the working culture of the CAN gov, IRCC, or CAN in general, it is an extremely toxic one, almost vicious. It almost reminds me of those from their dear "comrades" from the other side of the planet, with the only difference being that, they don't know how to drive the tank.
 
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DrWish

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Jan 24, 2021
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MudMoverGeorge said:
I was id 13 which is "supporting doc upload fail" with a few "imm" forms failed to be uploaded to GCMS. AR was mid-May 2021, after about 13.5 mo waiting, I got the luck to have the manual treatment and got AOR near the very end of Jun 2022. I totally agree with your analysis. And what's even more absurd is, that they chose to turn everyone's status id to 7 "submitted"(instead of dealing with the problem effectively!) to just hide those precious information/updates that the official is reluctant to give but could bring extremely comforting to those suffering souls, and possibly, doing that MANUALLY, or partially manually at least, bcz I read on the internet that the time that people got turned to id 7 was different. Whether it is the working culture of the CAN gov, IRCC, or CAN in general, it is an extremely toxic one, almost vicious. It almost reminds me of those from their dear "comrades" from the other side of the planet, with the only difference being that, they don't know how to drive the tank.
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Does your statusID changed now after getting AOR? I remember I had same status as yours (13) but now it is 7!
 
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MudMoverGeorge

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Jun 7, 2022
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DrWish said:
Does your statusID changed now after getting AOR? I remember I had same status as yours (13) but now it is 7!
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no it remains id7 after the AOR. id 7 is just the vicious way they've used to hide the yield of the F12 trick. but a little observation is, it seems that in the documents section, all docs turned to [documentApproved: true]. though not sure whether it's before or after the AOR.
 
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jaybuddhdev

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Aug 2, 2022
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AR: 29th January 2022.
Got file number today, and additional document request. Here is the additional document that is asked for:

Schedule A: A separate and newly completed Schedule A Background Declaration form (IMM 5669) bearing an original signature Please provide an updated and newly completed schedule A with an original signature. Please ensure that it is updated and newly signed. Please do not leave any gaps in time. https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/pdf/kits/forms/imm5669e.pdf Please provide information regarding the following Personal History Gap (Section 8), Please ensure you do not leave any gaps in time: 2016-04/2017-01 AND 2020-12/2021-02. 2 Please provide information regarding the following Address History Gap (Section 12), Please ensure you do not leave any gaps in time: 2021-09/PRESENT. Please ensure that each section of Schedule A is updated.

Between 2016-04 and 2017-01, I was working on my application to study in canada, and then came to canada on December 23 2016. What should I write in the history?

I graduated from the University of Regina on 7 January 2021, and applied for Work Permit on 2 February 2021. What should I write for this period?

After completing the document, should I print it, sign it manually and scan it again?

Thanks!
 
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moscatojuices

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Feb 21, 2022
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jaybuddhdev said:
AR: 29th January 2022.
Got file number today, and additional document request. Here is the additional document that is asked for:

Schedule A: A separate and newly completed Schedule A Background Declaration form (IMM 5669) bearing an original signature Please provide an updated and newly completed schedule A with an original signature. Please ensure that it is updated and newly signed. Please do not leave any gaps in time. https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/pdf/kits/forms/imm5669e.pdf Please provide information regarding the following Personal History Gap (Section 8), Please ensure you do not leave any gaps in time: 2016-04/2017-01 AND 2020-12/2021-02. 2 Please provide information regarding the following Address History Gap (Section 12), Please ensure you do not leave any gaps in time: 2021-09/PRESENT. Please ensure that each section of Schedule A is updated.

Between 2016-04 and 2017-01, I was working on my application to study in canada, and then came to canada on December 23 2016. What should I write in the history?

I graduated from the University of Regina on 7 January 2021, and applied for Work Permit on 2 February 2021. What should I write for this period?

After completing the document, should I print it, sign it manually and scan it again?

Thanks!
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Were you employed or not during the time period in question? If not, were you travelling or what? That's what they want to know. "I was applying for Canadian immigration" isn't really an answer.
 
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