George Brown College -Information Systems Business Analyst
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Hi Guys,
I am interested in joining this course ( sept 2017 or Jan 2018), i have almost 6 years of IT experience (16 to 17 months in Business Analysis). Even though i am already in business analysis industry , i would like this course to improve my knowledge in BA industry. Is it worth joining this course ?. Co-op option still available ?, because when i checked GB website Co-op option is not listed for the year 2017-18. Even if the co-op option is available how hard is it to get in.
I am interested in joining this course ( sept 2017 or Jan 2018), i have almost 6 years of IT experience (16 to 17 months in Business Analysis). Even though i am already in business analysis industry , i would like this course to improve my knowledge in BA industry. Is it worth joining this course ?. Co-op option still available ?, because when i checked GB website Co-op option is not listed for the year 2017-18. Even if the co-op option is available how hard is it to get in.
Hello from India, folks!
Glad to have come across this thread, and shout-out to @dks2323 for all the prompt replies.
I have got an admit for ISBA/January'18 intake. By January, I'll have 1.5 years experience as a Business Analyst (profile more like Enterprise Software management and customer account handling) in Indian offices of two US firms. It's been 2 years since I graduated, but took a personal break of 6 months in between (hobbies and stuff). I have some relatives in Brampton, probably I can initially live with them, or not.
I am looking forward to
1. secure PR (as I'll get 460 CRS points right after the course)
2. enhance my understanding of Business Analysis
3. Secure a job (not very ambitious about salary nor much constrained about the job profile INITIALLY. As in 40-45k should be fine)
4. garner some experience of a western/developed country; Personally, professionally and culturally.
Would love to receive your inputs on this, dks2323 and more people here
Also, how much relevant is the JOB BANK (https://www.jobbank.gc.ca/) ? as it requires minimum 67/100 selection factor points to enroll, I'll be having 66/100 by January.
TIA
Glad to have come across this thread, and shout-out to @dks2323 for all the prompt replies.
I have got an admit for ISBA/January'18 intake. By January, I'll have 1.5 years experience as a Business Analyst (profile more like Enterprise Software management and customer account handling) in Indian offices of two US firms. It's been 2 years since I graduated, but took a personal break of 6 months in between (hobbies and stuff). I have some relatives in Brampton, probably I can initially live with them, or not.
I am looking forward to
1. secure PR (as I'll get 460 CRS points right after the course)
2. enhance my understanding of Business Analysis
3. Secure a job (not very ambitious about salary nor much constrained about the job profile INITIALLY. As in 40-45k should be fine)
4. garner some experience of a western/developed country; Personally, professionally and culturally.
Would love to receive your inputs on this, dks2323 and more people here
Also, how much relevant is the JOB BANK (https://www.jobbank.gc.ca/) ? as it requires minimum 67/100 selection factor points to enroll, I'll be having 66/100 by January.
TIA
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I sent you the same personal message...just pasting the same here so others can see it too.....Hello from India, folks!
Glad to have come across this thread, and shout-out to @dks2323 for all the prompt replies.
I have got an admit for ISBA/January'18 intake. By January, I'll have 1.5 years experience as a Business Analyst (profile more like Enterprise Software management and customer account handling) in Indian offices of two US firms. It's been 2 years since I graduated, but took a personal break of 6 months in between (hobbies and stuff). I have some relatives in Brampton, probably I can initially live with them, or not.
I am looking forward to
1. secure PR (as I'll get 460 CRS points right after the course)
2. enhance my understanding of Business Analysis
3. Secure a job (not very ambitious about salary nor much constrained about the job profile INITIALLY. As in 40-45k should be fine)
4. garner some experience of a western/developed country; Personally, professionally and culturally.
Would love to receive your inputs on this, dks2323 and more people here
Also, how much relevant is the JOB BANK (https://www.jobbank.gc.ca/) ? as it requires minimum 67/100 selection factor points to enroll, I'll be having 66/100 by January.
TIA
I have some relatives in Brampton, probably I can initially live with them, or not.
It is going to be some travel if you travel downtown from Brampton. But the course is just 3 days a week so you may be fine with this.
I am looking forward to
1. secure PR (as I'll get 460 CRS points right after the course)
What is your CRS now....I think your CRS should be decent enough to get the PR in few months...Moreover its going to go up once you gain more experience.
So why don't you get your PR and then move here instead of putting 20K dollars in the course.
2. enhance my understanding of Business Analysis
Yes, you'll learn few things but that's not enough. But you'll definitely get some idea about it. This might not be the right course if your aim is this.
3. Secure a job (not very ambitious about salary nor much constrained about the job profile INITIALLY. As in 40-45k CAD p.a. should be fine)
This should not be a problem. I'll say 35-40K is the range you are looking at. I am not judging you here, it is just the average what they usually pay here with this experience. You may very well get a lot more than this.
4. garner some experience of a western/developed country; Personally, professionally and culturally.
You are on the right track. You'll get that experience here. Don't expect too much as the work is similar to what you do anywhere in the world. It is the work culture that is different and that's what you'll experience and enjoy.
Would love to receive your inputs on this, Does it make sense or there are more catches to this ?
Well, you are on the right track if you want to move here. The only thing is save your money that you are planning to spend on a college course and get the PR first.
And if you really want to study, go to a good university. Do yourself a favor, spend time for GRE/GMAT preparation and get into a good university instead of going to a college.
Also, how much relevant is the JOB BANK (https://www.jobbank.gc.ca/) ?
For me it is just one of the mandatory steps to submit your application for Express Entry. I still have to meet someone who gained anything from job bank.
as it requires minimum 67/100 selection factor points to enroll, I'll be having 66/100 by January.[/QUOTE]
Much Thanks for all the prompt answers, they certainly clarify most things for me
Please find my follow up to the same below :
It is going to be some travel if you travel downtown from Brampton. But the course is just 3 days a week so you may be fine with this.
- Yep, that was my thought. It's two days now probably with some online component too. 25-30 km looks feasible to commute alternate days, as of now. Let's see what works out the best
What is your CRS now....I think your CRS should be decent enough to get the PR in few months...Moreover its going to go up once you gain more experience.
So why don't you get your PR and then move here instead of putting 20K dollars in the course.
- This is the tricky part ! It's only 413 as of now (The strength is CLB 9 IELTS score). Even if I get a couple years of more experience here, it'll be 438 at max. The only way to increase it with a kink is a provincial nomination, a permanent LMIA cleared job offer or clear TEF with good score..all of which sound more difficult to me (Do correct me if I am wrong). Another workaround is to get married to a good IELTS scoring girl ..(sorry, just kidding).
Whereas, needless to say, getting an extra diploma and that too in Canada gives more CRS points as well as makes it 68/100 !
2. enhance my understanding of Business Analysis
Yes, you'll learn few things but that's not enough. But you'll definitely get some idea about it. This might not be the right course if your aim is this. And if you really want to study, go to a good university. Do yourself a favor, spend time for GRE/GMAT preparation and get into a good university instead of going to a college.
- Makes sense, but is it that worthless ? I mean personally, I don't want to study rigorously or something, I want to set my foot well in Canadian job market as of now. Anyway, advanced courses in Business Analysis and Project Management will probably need more on-ground experience. My GRE score is 319/340, but I opted to not go to university again so soon, rather get some work experience. Plus universities are expensive, so did nt strike me as the best choice for now
Would love to receive your inputs on this, Does it make sense or there are more catches to this ?
Well, you are on the right track if you want to move here. The only thing is save your money that you are planning to spend on a college course and get the PR first.
- I wish I figure out the optimum way to do this with least money and most output !
Please find my follow up to the same below :
It is going to be some travel if you travel downtown from Brampton. But the course is just 3 days a week so you may be fine with this.
- Yep, that was my thought. It's two days now probably with some online component too. 25-30 km looks feasible to commute alternate days, as of now. Let's see what works out the best
What is your CRS now....I think your CRS should be decent enough to get the PR in few months...Moreover its going to go up once you gain more experience.
So why don't you get your PR and then move here instead of putting 20K dollars in the course.
- This is the tricky part ! It's only 413 as of now (The strength is CLB 9 IELTS score). Even if I get a couple years of more experience here, it'll be 438 at max. The only way to increase it with a kink is a provincial nomination, a permanent LMIA cleared job offer or clear TEF with good score..all of which sound more difficult to me (Do correct me if I am wrong). Another workaround is to get married to a good IELTS scoring girl
..(sorry, just kidding). Whereas, needless to say, getting an extra diploma and that too in Canada gives more CRS points as well as makes it 68/100 !
2. enhance my understanding of Business Analysis
Yes, you'll learn few things but that's not enough. But you'll definitely get some idea about it. This might not be the right course if your aim is this. And if you really want to study, go to a good university. Do yourself a favor, spend time for GRE/GMAT preparation and get into a good university instead of going to a college.
- Makes sense, but is it that worthless ? I mean personally, I don't want to study rigorously or something, I want to set my foot well in Canadian job market as of now. Anyway, advanced courses in Business Analysis and Project Management will probably need more on-ground experience. My GRE score is 319/340, but I opted to not go to university again so soon, rather get some work experience. Plus universities are expensive, so did nt strike me as the best choice for now
Would love to receive your inputs on this, Does it make sense or there are more catches to this ?
Well, you are on the right track if you want to move here. The only thing is save your money that you are planning to spend on a college course and get the PR first.
- I wish I figure out the optimum way to do this with least money and most output !
- This is the tricky part ! It's only 413 as of now (The strength is CLB 9 IELTS score). Even if I get a couple years of more experience here, it'll be 438 at max. The only way to increase it with a kink is a provincial nomination, a permanent LMIA cleared job offer or clear TEF with good score..all of which sound more difficult to me (Do correct me if I am wrong).
Only Provincial nomination is possible if you know nothing about French. But that's time consuming and needs patience and wait.
I think even 413 is good enough but you have to wait but wait is the most difficult part, and that too when you are not sure.
Another workaround is to get married to a good IELTS scoring girl
haha....Naah...that's not gonna happen as you'll get points as married person so you are looking at approximately the similar CRS. So save yourself from the marriage and enjoy here for few years as a bachelor. You can thank me for this after few years.
Whereas, needless to say, getting an extra diploma and that too in Canada gives more CRS points as well as makes it 68/100 !
Well, then go for it if you think that you are not going to make the CRS cutoff
- Makes sense, but is it that worthless ? I mean personally, I don't want to study rigorously or something, I want to set my foot well in Canadian job market as of now. Anyway, advanced courses in Business Analysis and Project Management will probably need more on-ground experience. My GRE score is 319/340, but I opted to not go to university again so soon, rather get some work experience. Plus universities are expensive, so did nt strike me as the best choice for now
I felt that its worthless but I joined this when I had 8 years of experience with 6.5 years in US. There were few guys with me with couple of years of experience. In their opinion, it was not bad.
I used this course to set my foot in Canadian Market. And I was confident that I'll recover my money soon which I did. But I'll say that just use this course as a way to enter Canada and set your foot here. Don't expect much.
I agree that universities are expensive but good things are never cheap.
- I wish I figure out the optimum way to do this with least money and most output !
Wish you all the luck buddy. Do it, if you feel it right. It does not really matter what others say.
Awesome info! Thanks again, man.
Also 413 is not nearly enough per the latest cutoffs..
This Provincial Nomination am not very deeply aware about..while I research more about it..if anyone would like to give me some info on that, it'd be great
Also 413 is not nearly enough per the latest cutoffs..
This Provincial Nomination am not very deeply aware about..while I research more about it..if anyone would like to give me some info on that, it'd be great
Another query (@dks2323 ) and other experienced people here,
I'll be eligible to apply for PR once I complete the course, pointwise. Is that a dealbreaker ? because I'll have to look for jobs/co-ops/part-times before that well-in-time, and I hear it's a nearly impossible nut to crack on a study+work permit.
I'll be eligible to apply for PR once I complete the course, pointwise. Is that a dealbreaker ? because I'll have to look for jobs/co-ops/part-times before that well-in-time, and I hear it's a nearly impossible nut to crack on a study+work permit.
I do not know about your past experience but almost all of us with decent experience was able to get a decent co-op/job...so its not nearly impossible but you have to give a good fight to get it.....
Thank you for the heads-up. I was only skeptical about opportunities with a work permit versus possibilities with a PR. I'm gearing up to give a good, and better fight
P.S. Having 1.5 years of experience as a business analyst in India, kinda associate level !
I did not notice much difference being on work permit vs PR when I was looking for a job....but I am pretty sure it makes some difference...Thank you for the heads-up. I was only skeptical about opportunities with a work permit versus possibilities with a PR. I'm gearing up to give a good, and better fight
P.S. Having 1.5 years of experience as a business analyst in India, kinda associate level !
But one thing that is different here (as compared to US) is that they usually don't ask your status in Canada during initial phases of job interview....
That's helpful ! I am more positive about moving to Canada, now. Have started the formalities too.
Thanks again
Thanks again
My Question is,
Is there any ACCA affiliate/member - working in IT field as Business Analyst, System Analyst and pursued Canadian immigration under NOC code 2171?how is ECA assessment went through ? What was steps and procedures he has followed?
Is there any ACCA affiliate/member - working in IT field as Business Analyst, System Analyst and pursued Canadian immigration under NOC code 2171?how is ECA assessment went through ? What was steps and procedures he has followed?
I have bee offered a place for Sep 2018 intake. Can anyone share their typical class schedule so that I can figure out how much demanding the course is .
Hi @dks2323, I've read through all your replies and it really clears a lot of doubt.
I am a recent PR to Canada landed on 18th July, I have done my MBA in Finance and have 8 years of experience in Back Office Operations as a Business Support Specialist in India, workex nowhere related to that of a BA or IT role. I have done a BA certificate course in India as I was and am thinking of shifting my career to Business Analysis because I found it's in high demand in Canada. I researched about GBCs BA 1 year program and also stumbled upon this thread that I read in detail which has clear explanation from you that this course won't get you a BA job but your previous experience will. Since I do not have any exp as a BA it's not worthwhile then taking up this course.
I'm finding it difficult to land a job in my field and my friends here and relatives too are suggesting to study a year long Graduate certificate program like this and once I have Canadian Education I'll have better standing to get a job. But it doesn't look that easy and isn't any guarantee that I'll get a job after that too.
I was preparing for GMAT back in India to apply for executive MBA in either US or Canada that's when I came to know about this PR thingy and applied for it and got it in 5 months. After getting PR I was sure I will get a job in Canada so completely stopped GMAT prep, now that I am with no job and these graduate cert program which are easily offered to almost anyone I don't see any other option than starting my prep for GMAT and after that apply for MBA programs.
I don't have any specific question here but just want an advice would you suggest that MBA route will be the best choice or going for relevant Graduate certificate program of my field where my experience will be counted?
Thanks in advance
I am a recent PR to Canada landed on 18th July, I have done my MBA in Finance and have 8 years of experience in Back Office Operations as a Business Support Specialist in India, workex nowhere related to that of a BA or IT role. I have done a BA certificate course in India as I was and am thinking of shifting my career to Business Analysis because I found it's in high demand in Canada. I researched about GBCs BA 1 year program and also stumbled upon this thread that I read in detail which has clear explanation from you that this course won't get you a BA job but your previous experience will. Since I do not have any exp as a BA it's not worthwhile then taking up this course.
I'm finding it difficult to land a job in my field and my friends here and relatives too are suggesting to study a year long Graduate certificate program like this and once I have Canadian Education I'll have better standing to get a job. But it doesn't look that easy and isn't any guarantee that I'll get a job after that too.
I was preparing for GMAT back in India to apply for executive MBA in either US or Canada that's when I came to know about this PR thingy and applied for it and got it in 5 months. After getting PR I was sure I will get a job in Canada so completely stopped GMAT prep, now that I am with no job and these graduate cert program which are easily offered to almost anyone I don't see any other option than starting my prep for GMAT and after that apply for MBA programs.
I don't have any specific question here but just want an advice would you suggest that MBA route will be the best choice or going for relevant Graduate certificate program of my field where my experience will be counted?
Thanks in advance