Applicant from PhD program after 5 Nov, 2011 connect here to get status

[Stuck In Quebec]

Hi S.David

As I read in earlier posts that some of the applicants from Quebec were asked by the visa office to provide proof or explanation that they intend not to settle in Quebec. I got my PER earlier this month and plan to submit my CSQ rejection letter as proof that I am no way intending to stay in Quebec. Also the person who was asked to provide such a proof quoted the body of the letter ( skim through earlier posts) and the query posed was that he has just finished 2nd year and by the time he lands, he won't finish his PhD and can't land in Quebec without CSQ. I will be done in 4-5 months and I have job offers from outside of Quebec so that's my plan to show my thesis completion and job offer plus letter of rejection from Quebec. I in reality have no intentions of staying in Quebec and want out asap.

If I am you, depending upon your level of french and time to finish the degree, will apply to Quebec and have a file opened as a back up. There are a few good counsellors at Quebec Immigration and have brains where it's supposed to be. You might get lucky. I have intermediate level french now but will not apply to Quebec again to save time and money. Last option is PEQ which is guranteed. Even CSQ is almost guranteed once you graduate. I have friends with masters who were issued CSQ. If going this way, show intentions to stay in Quebec and ask your supervisor to employ you for a while.

Best of luck. I am pretty sure you will be more than ok.

Dude, there were some people here with the same problem.:


User Stuck In Quebec may have some ideas. try to get in touch with him.

 

[Stuck In Quebec]

Hi Tyrus

Please update my info on the tracker:-

Application sent 1st time:- July 10th, 2012.

Application returned:- August 21st,2012. ( error in NOC codes, can't believe myself)

Application resent:- August 25th, 2012.

Application received:- August 27th, 2012.

PER issued:- November 8th, 2012.

Fingers crossed.

Thanks.

 

[asbereth]

Re: How to calculate the points for "adaptability"?

it is your "Previous study in Canada " which means that you have to finish your phd in order to get the point for that.
if you are still student it is your Current study not your Previous study. And I guess you can get the point for your wife but not yours.

This is the impression that I got as well, especially after several applications got rejected precisely because they weren't awarded these previous study points.

The wording is ambiguous, and while it states that you need to have completed the program, it also explicitly mentions that "there is no need to have obtained a degree or diploma for these two years of study to earn these points".

Starting next year, however, the wording has been revamped to go as follows:

for a period of full-time study by the skilled worker, of at least two academic years in a program of at least two years in duration whether or not the skilled worker obtained an educational credential for completing a program in Canada and during which period the skilled worker remained in good academic standing as defined by the institution

So it does look like that any study period of two years would make one qualify for the 5 adaptability points.

Hi Tyrus

Please update my info on the tracker:-

Application sent 1st time:- July 10th, 2012.

Application returned:- August 21st,2012. ( error in NOC codes, can't believe myself)

Application resent:- August 25th, 2012.

Application received:- August 27th, 2012.

PER issued:- November 8th, 2012.

Fingers crossed.

Thanks.

Can you provide us with other information as per required by the spreadsheet so we can update it?

 

[asbereth]

Thanks TyrusX for your opinion. When I called CIC Call Center 2 weeks ago, same the Call Center Agent said that there are no instructions from Minister to stop or put-on-hold the PhD Stream. The Call Center Agent said that, as per the current rules, if you are still eligible, you can apply and send your application to CIO Sydney.

We have been wondering about this same issue for almost a month now. No announcement or ministerial instructions whatsoever, and according to MI-4, the cap would be reset on the 1st unless specified otherwise by further ministerial instructions, of which there are none. So we should be able to just assume it has indeed been reset. But now the CIC officer said otherwise (local officer notwithstanding), it once again put doubts in my mind. I think there is an applicant here that applied after Nov 1, so we should just wait and see to hear his further correspondence with the CIO.

 

[Stuck In Quebec]

Re: How to calculate the points for "adaptability"?

The additional information for the tracker is as follows:-

CC/BD encashed: 26th October, 2012
Current eCAS status: In Process
Number of people in application: 1
RA/TA experience: not included, had two years work ex from home
Nationality: India


[/quote] Can you provide us with other information as per required by the spreadsheet so we can update it?

 

[websphereguy]

We have been wondering about this same issue for almost a month now. No announcement or ministerial instructions whatsoever, and according to MI-4, the cap would be reset on the 1st unless specified otherwise by further ministerial instructions, of which there are none. So we should be able to just assume it has indeed been reset. But now the CIC officer said otherwise (local officer notwithstanding), it once again put doubts in my mind. I think there is an applicant here that applied after Nov 1, so we should just wait and see to hear his further correspondence with the CIO.

That's true asbereth. It seems to me the local officer doesn't know much and is rather disjointed from his counterparts based in Ottawa.

 

[TyrusX]

That's true asbereth. It seems to me the local officer doesn't know much and is rather disjointed from his counterparts based in Ottawa.

I think he is wrong. He may have some internal information with respect to processing. Maybe the processing is on hold, but the applications can still be sent. But it is hard to believe they would put the stream on hold and not inform us.

 

[TyrusX]

Guys give a look at this:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2012/ob481.asp

 

[aidina]

Probably even longer processing time for those who are processed by CCP_Ottawa. Seems that they are overloading their Ottawa office.

 

[websphereguy]

Probably even longer processing time for those who are processed by CCP_Ottawa. Seems that they are overloading their Ottawa office.

Well it does seem like a possible/potential increase in workload for CPP-O. But at the same time I don't think there's additional budget that Minister Kenney is going to get from the Federal Government in this current economic climate. To make sure I did a quick check with the Public Service Commission of Canada website that allows one to search for jobs within the Federal Government and its associated departments. http://jest-orae.psc-cfp.gc.ca/JEST-ORAE/advsrch.do

With minor tweaks to the advance search filter, yields only 2 jobs within whole of Canada for CIC and none of them are based in Ottawa. Sux isn't it? They are goin to stress their existing task force with this additional loads.

 

[websphereguy]

Thought I share this too...
http://www.immig-rant.com.php53-4.dfw1-2.websitetestlink.com/?p=46
which is why English(and/or French) is so important for PR applicants.

Btw, the author, Nick Noorani is the owner of the magazine, Canadian Immigrant. You guys should pick it up sometime from your local library. Got loads of good pointers in them.

 

[maytheflower]

Thanks sharing.

Hi S.David

As I read in earlier posts that some of the applicants from Quebec were asked by the visa office to provide proof or explanation that they intend not to settle in Quebec. I got my PER earlier this month and plan to submit my CSQ rejection letter as proof that I am no way intending to stay in Quebec. Also the person who was asked to provide such a proof quoted the body of the letter ( skim through earlier posts) and the query posed was that he has just finished 2nd year and by the time he lands, he won't finish his PhD and can't land in Quebec without CSQ. I will be done in 4-5 months and I have job offers from outside of Quebec so that's my plan to show my thesis completion and job offer plus letter of rejection from Quebec. I in reality have no intentions of staying in Quebec and want out asap.

If I am you, depending upon your level of french and time to finish the degree, will apply to Quebec and have a file opened as a back up. There are a few good counsellors at Quebec Immigration and have brains where it's supposed to be. You might get lucky. I have intermediate level french now but will not apply to Quebec again to save time and money. Last option is PEQ which is guranteed. Even CSQ is almost guranteed once you graduate. I have friends with masters who were issued CSQ. If going this way, show intentions to stay in Quebec and ask your supervisor to employ you for a while.

Best of luck. I am pretty sure you will be more than ok.

 

[smallkick]

Thank you so much, ejamal and TyrusX. I have sent my enquiry to them today.

Sure,

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Also, I included a photocopy of my driver licence to show that I live in Ontario.

 

[501]

I did my medicals and docs update, I also renewed my passport, should I send a scanned copy of the first page only to London VO for the update or all the page of it? Do I have to courier a copy of it or the scanned copy is enough? Tnx in advance.

 

[websphereguy]

Thank you so much, ejamal and TyrusX. I have sent my enquiry to them today.

CAIPS? I did mine last week too. Let me know when you got a response both smallkick and TyrusX