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beulah82

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I'm sorry about this confusions up and down,
I want to know how to request for full details about the company possibly reason why it mauy have been seen as fraudulent quoting Specifically, upon document examination, the incorporation document was found to be fraudulent. Please explain where, how and when this document was obtained and why it was provided with your application.

Please how can I question this issue with the ic.corporationcanada.ca

Thank you for your kind response once again

Regards
 

beulah82

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What is this company? You were found to not answer truthfully and submit fraudulent documents. What is your franchise?
I don't get this question very well please.
The company was registered in 2018 by Christopher Hammer and I, and my spouse, But shortly after my arrival in Canada, Christopher stepped aside due to age, and i took on the operation while I requested for the franchise and was approved.

The other names (if you have checked) are the names of people selected by me while I still retained Christophers Name..

This company's business is travel and tours plus events management.

I don't understand what you mean by what is your franchise?
 

Naturgrl

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I don't get this question very well please.
The company was registered in 2018 by Christopher Hammer and I, and my spouse, But shortly after my arrival in Canada, Christopher stepped aside due to age, and i took on the operation while I requested for the franchise and was approved.

The other names (if you have checked) are the names of people selected by me while I still retained Christophers Name..

This company's business is travel and tours plus events management.

I don't understand what you mean by what is your franchise?
You are the one who used the word franchise and I asked what was the name of your franchise. You need a good immigration/business lawyer. You have a 5 year ban and received a PFL that you never responded too. IRCC says you submitted fraudulent documents, and you never responded to PFL to state otherwise. Where is Christopher now because he is a partner in your Canadian business. It says the business looks after immigration visas.
 

beulah82

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You are the one who used the word franchise and I asked what was the name of your franchise. You need a good immigration/business lawyer. You have a 5 year ban and received a PFL that you never responded too. IRCC says you submitted fraudulent documents, and you never responded to PFL to state otherwise. Where is Christopher now because he is a partner in your Canadian business. It says the business looks after immigration visas.
Christopher has stepped aside, but I lost the Corporation Key, I would have update the directors information of the corporation, , The main director of the corporation with the PSC is myself alone,

I actually do not know what else to do when I have submitted the company corporation certificate to them with my application, so I wonder what else they could be asking for aside the certificate.
 

beulah82

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Jul 11, 2018
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I'm sorry about this confusions up and down,
I want to know how to request for full details about the company possibly reason why it mauy have been seen as fraudulent quoting Specifically, upon document examination, the incorporation document was found to be fraudulent. Please explain where, how and when this document was obtained and why it was provided with your application.

Please how can I question this issue with the ic.corporationcanada.ca

Thank you for your kind response once again

Regards
With this, Is there a way this can be verified or querried ? in order to ascertain what the immigration officer was saying.
 

Naturgrl

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With this, Is there a way this can be verified or querried ? in order to ascertain what the immigration officer was saying.
Your predicament is beyond the scope of a volunteer forum. You need a lawyer and you need GCMS notes. However that is why you respond to a PFL proving (if true) that the documentation you provided was not falserobably not much you can do now but at least find out what IRCC found in their review and address reasons for the ban if you want to reapply for whatever immigration program you are eligible for in 4 years.

If you are director and part-owner then why don’t have have to all the paperwork/documentation? Talk to your partner in Ottawa and get all the correct documentation. What does ic.corporationcanada.ca have to do with this?
 

scylla

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Visa Office......
Buffalo
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28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
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01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
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05-10-2010
With this, Is there a way this can be verified or querried ? in order to ascertain what the immigration officer was saying.
Order your GCMS notes.
 

moscatojuices

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This is now a very complex matter.

You lost your primary opportunity to communicate with IRCC in the 15-day day window given to you by the immigration officer.

As such, you now need to weigh between hiring an specialist immigration admissibility lawyer and finding an appeals avenue to reverse your inadmissibility ban, which may mean taking IRCC to court. You are probably looking at spending lots of money and more importantly, enormous amounts of time (probably years) to fix this with no guaranteed outcome.

Your choice is to basically:
  1. Spend your time, money and drain your emotional energy to overcome this - You may succeed or you may not. And if you don't, it is going to hurt you emotionally and financially like no tomorrow. You also have a disadvantage because you're not in Canada anymore - it's easier to do these things here.
  2. Forget about Canada - Take the bullet and start over or resume your life in Nigeria. Forget about Canada.
In my opinion, basically if you know that you intentionally provided fraudulent documents, don't even try. Like, just don't. You screwed up - learn to accept your mistake and move on and don't ever try something like this again. Try when your inadmissibility ban ends.

But if you think IRCC made a mistake, by all means work with a lawyer. I just can't for the life of me understand why you didn't use the window of opportunity you had in order to respond.

My 2c.

PS to be clear: you are forbidden from applying to any Canadian immigration program with your current inadmissibility ban. You won't be able to visit Canada unless you apply for an exemption to visit which is also a gruelling process.
 
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beulah82

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Thank you for your response, I will respond with the following.
  1. The company is question was never a fake company neither is there any fake document submitted.
  2. The issue I may say is that the company tax return in Nigeria was not remitted for 2 years period and the status changed to Inactive.
  3. I actually came in as an employee of the said company (which I was a member of the board of Directors), and during my stay in Canada, I convert myself as owner within the company (May be due to insufficient knowledge)
  4. After getting the ownership of the Canadian Business, I requested through (ic.gc.ca) to stop carrying on with business name earlier registered with ISED and Ontario business registration, while the Master Business Licence still carry the stopped name and my legal name on it,
  5. I used service ontario one key portal and continue carrying on with the same name approved by the federal corporation because that one is a Limited Corporation.
  6. I then applied for the renewal of the work visa that I was holding then (using the first LMIA Exempt Job Offer given by the ESDC) but did not wait for the final result to come out. I was declined base on the reason that I'm no longer residing in Canada.
  7. I applied for IEC to for permanent residency instead of CEC while using the same LMIA exempt Job Offer on my very first visa application and it was declined stating I no longer eligible for the visa type.
  8. Then I now re-applied for a new work visa as a fresher which was declined with inadmisibility stating that the company document submitted is counterfeit (which I never knew they will respond so faster) I checked the MY-CIC account and found out that it remained 2 days to respond, I don't know what to say, but 3 or 4 days later I came up with a document telling them that I'm a member of board of the director of the company and I have a higher shares in the company. and to my suprise, decline with inadmisibility and If you check the name of the company, You will see my name there and i am still the same that has the (PSC) Person with Significant Control of the company.
With all the above, are you saying still yet, there is nothing that can be done?
I have requested for the GCMS but still waiting for it to arrive.

Thanks you for your response.



Meanwhile:
I am applying for a self employ work permit for a brother of mine to continue carrying on the affairs of the company which only to be used for temporary stay in Canada for multiple entry, as I have the same company in US, UK, and Nigeria, I won't need to trouble myself about Canada but I will be shuffling between these other countries.
On the other hand, when I'm being asked for "provide the name of your current spouse/common-law partner" as a married man, what name are they asking for? Her father's name or the husband family name that she changed to?

Thank you for your response.
Regards
 

moscatojuices

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Feb 21, 2022
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Thank you for your response, I will respond with the following.
  1. The company is question was never a fake company neither is there any fake document submitted.
  2. The issue I may say is that the company tax return in Nigeria was not remitted for 2 years period and the status changed to Inactive.
  3. I actually came in as an employee of the said company (which I was a member of the board of Directors), and during my stay in Canada, I convert myself as owner within the company (May be due to insufficient knowledge)
  4. After getting the ownership of the Canadian Business, I requested through (ic.gc.ca) to stop carrying on with business name earlier registered with ISED and Ontario business registration, while the Master Business Licence still carry the stopped name and my legal name on it,
  5. I used service ontario one key portal and continue carrying on with the same name approved by the federal corporation because that one is a Limited Corporation.
  6. I then applied for the renewal of the work visa that I was holding then (using the first LMIA Exempt Job Offer given by the ESDC) but did not wait for the final result to come out. I was declined base on the reason that I'm no longer residing in Canada.
  7. I applied for IEC to for permanent residency instead of CEC while using the same LMIA exempt Job Offer on my very first visa application and it was declined stating I no longer eligible for the visa type.
  8. Then I now re-applied for a new work visa as a fresher which was declined with inadmisibility stating that the company document submitted is counterfeit (which I never knew they will respond so faster) I checked the MY-CIC account and found out that it remained 2 days to respond, I don't know what to say, but 3 or 4 days later I came up with a document telling them that I'm a member of board of the director of the company and I have a higher shares in the company. and to my suprise, decline with inadmisibility and If you check the name of the company, You will see my name there and i am still the same that has the (PSC) Person with Significant Control of the company.
With all the above, are you saying still yet, there is nothing that can be done?
I have requested for the GCMS but still waiting for it to arrive.

Thanks you for your response.



Meanwhile:
I am applying for a self employ work permit for a brother of mine to continue carrying on the affairs of the company which only to be used for temporary stay in Canada for multiple entry, as I have the same company in US, UK, and Nigeria, I won't need to trouble myself about Canada but I will be shuffling between these other countries.
On the other hand, when I'm being asked for "provide the name of your current spouse/common-law partner" as a married man, what name are they asking for? Her father's name or the husband family name that she changed to?

Thank you for your response.
Regards
It's way too late to say any of this. You failed to respond during your window of opportunity - there is no way in the world they're going to re-open this for you based on a webform. The contents of your post also seems very opinionated and doesn't strike me as someone who has any idea about Canadian immigration law. So no offence, they're probably just going to delete your email and they certainly won't care. They've done their job and followed the law. They gave you a PFL, an opportunity to respond, and you failed to do so. They were 100% right to give you an inadmissibility ban.

My advice to you in the post above still stands. You need a lawyer that is willing to take the time to understand your situation in full and to give you an assessment of the avenues of appeal you have to overturn your inadmissibility ban, which in all likelihood will involve suing IRCC and taking them to court.

Honestly, I think you are completely wasting your time and need to move on and forget about Canada. Unless you have unlimited time and money, you have zero chance of succeeding in overcoming something this serious.

If you know you lied and provided a fraudulent document, don't even bother pursuing this.