Why did they refuse my family's visitor visa?

[steaky]

usa is more flexible to give visas,,,just go to an embassy and thats it,,no online application where you never know if they saw your application or not,,,and just took your money for ''processing(how can i even know they looked at my papers??''

and nop,to unskilled people there is no way to go to canada,,,at least for the ones living in cuba.

No, you have absolutely no idea how to get a US visitor's visa. Applicants must go online to complete the application form, upload photos, schedule for the interview and book the location to pick up the passport/visa. Only payment is rather flexible. They can pay online or use banking machines.

For Canadian visa, applicants can either submit and pay online, at the nearest Visa application centre or directly to the embassy. Upon entry to Canada, unlike USA, they don't issue I-94 and don't request additional charges for I-94.

 

[jddalove]

you more likely to get a us visit visa than a canadian visit visa,,look how many different visas usa has...canada is a headache on this matter..

 

[steaky]

you more likely to get a us visit visa than a canadian visit visa,,look how many different visas usa has...canada is a headache on this matter..

Any statistics to support you? List all USA visa....

 

[jddalove]

a lottttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt of themmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
canada on the other hand unless you are rich,,have travel to 100 countries and belong to the hive they dont welcome you in..
check

travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/general/all-visa-categories.html

 

[jddalove]

also here:

www.cilsimmigration.com/american-visas-list.html

 

[kevinb7]

Sorry to break the fight guys...

Unfortunate post. Canada is great country where they have one of the best immigration laws and policies I have ever seen.

I won't go too far. I got a VISA for my mom, gf and for a friend to visit me. They had no savings, completely depended on me during their trip and had no travel history whatsoever. Canada is very aware that we as immigrants want to have our families and friends visit us and make their best effort to help us achieve that desire.

Please don't let bad experiences cloud your judgment.

Jalex23, how much money did your mom/gf and friend show in their bank accounts to immigration? And around how much was their employment income? How can my parents and brother all come visit me together as a family if they have no "family ties"?
I have a decent income (42k per year, no wife or kids, I have 10k+ on my bank account) and told immigration on my invitation letter that I would completely cover the costs of my family's visit to Canada including flights yet they still refuse it for:

-Your travel history
-Your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence
-Your current employment situation
-Your personal assets and financial status
-I am not satisfied that you have sufficient funds, including income or assets, to carry out your stated
purpose in going to Canada or to maintain yourself while in Canada and to effect your departure.

My family was only going to stay for 3 weeks and even got letters from their employers saying they had to return back to their jobs after 3 weeks. I feel so helpless and powerless. I'm not sure what to say or do differently so they can issue my family a visitor visa. :'(

 

[jddalove]

kevin,,I'm really sorry about the refusal...
and dont worry we dont fight in this forum,,,we just clarify things lol...

but u should ask those questions to ''steaky'' since he says Canada welcomes people no problem,,,i wanna know what the excuse for cic to refuse the visas..
btw,,ive heard that saying u will pay for their flight tickets is a ''red flag'',,,i read it somewhere on this forum...

 

[steaky]

i wanna know what the excuse for cic to refuse the visas..

-Your travel history
-Your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence
-Your current employment situation
-Your personal assets and financial status
-I am not satisfied that you have sufficient funds, including income or assets, to carry out your stated
purpose in going to Canada or to maintain yourself while in Canada and to effect your departure.

Hey Kelvin,

You should really consider trying super visa for your parents because you meet the income requirement or try again for the regular visa as per my previous suggestion. Good luck.

 

[steaky]

a lottttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt of themmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
canada on the other hand unless you are rich,,have travel to 100 countries and belong to the hive they dont welcome you in..
check

No, even if someone is poor, Canada still welcome them.

You can see lots of examples in this forum.

 

[jddalove]

ive had all those things and applied and nothing,,,they play cards with the applications

 

[jddalove]

No, even if someone is poor, Canada still welcome them.

You can see lots of examples in this forum.

like i said,,cic plays cards with our applications,,,
other wise --proof of funds--- is useless then??? come on!!!

 

[Jalex23]

Sorry to break the fight guys...

Jalex23, how much money did your mom/gf and friend show in their bank accounts to immigration? And around how much was their employment income? How can my parents and brother all come visit me together as a family if they have no "family ties"?
I have a decent income (42k per year, no wife or kids, I have 10k+ on my bank account) and told immigration on my invitation letter that I would completely cover the costs of my family's visit to Canada including flights yet they still refuse it for:

-Your travel history
-Your family ties in Canada and in your country of residence
-Your current employment situation
-Your personal assets and financial status
-I am not satisfied that you have sufficient funds, including income or assets, to carry out your stated
purpose in going to Canada or to maintain yourself while in Canada and to effect your departure.

My family was only going to stay for 3 weeks and even got letters from their employers saying they had to return back to their jobs after 3 weeks. I feel so helpless and powerless. I'm not sure what to say or do differently so they can issue my family a visitor visa. :'(

The problem is that you don't earn enough and don't have enough in the bank. If I was the immigration officer I would also have said NO. It is simple. You are earning less than 45k, that is more or less like 850CAN a week. divided by 4 people you would have less than 30 daily dollars to spend for each one of you during that visit. How is it believable that you want to "visit the country and show them around" with a budget of 30 dollars per person for three weeks? A visitor is supposed to go dining, travel around, do some shopping, ENJOY the trip. And it seems you can't afford that. Now, you mention 10k+ in the bank. That is before or after the tickets were purchased? If it was BEFORE then even worse because a round trip is 1K per person. What happens if you have an accident? What happens if any of you gets ill? 7k+ is barely enough.

You can argue that the main point of the trip is to "be together" or "to see you" but noth of these things can be done back home, one trip, and cheaper....

So as you can see you are being too ambitious with your approach. I would suggest inviting first your brother. After you have built a history of inviting people then invite your parents. If you are trying to invite the three of them in your first try then it is not strange that you got refused. Another approach is that you wait another year, save like crazy, make thsoe 10k+ be 20k+ and that would help a lot in your case.

All those reasons are not like the officer looked for ways to prevent your family from coming, all the other way, the officer was trying to believe you and continue digging to find some evidence that your intentions were genuine.

In my personal experience I was making more than you, I didn't cover the air ticket, it was my gf alone and it was just for two weeks. That is the way you do it, keep it simple, and keep the request realistic.

 

[jddalove]

All those reasons are not like the officer looked for ways to prevent your family from coming, all the other way, the officer was trying to believe you and continue digging to find some evidence that your intentions were genuine.

the officer was not trying to help,,the officer just doesnt want his family to come ,thats it...

 

[kevinb7]

The problem is that you don't earn enough and don't have enough in the bank. If I was the immigration officer I would also have said NO. It is simple.

I make way more than the minimum income requirement for a supervisa, which allows parents to stay up to 2 years. How come that is not enough for only 3 weeks my family would spend here? I know you say they might have an accident or something.. but what if I had bought Canadian insurance? Would that have solved the issue? Or would my family still have to have a certain amount of funds in their bank accounts?

 

[Canucklehead]

Unfortunate post. Canada is great country where they have one of the best immigration laws and policies I have ever seen.

I won't go too far. I got a VISA for my mom, gf and for a friend to visit me. They had no savings, completely depended on me during their trip and had no travel history whatsoever. Canada is very aware that we as immigrants want to have our families and friends visit us and make their best effort to help us achieve that desire.

Please don't let bad experiences cloud your judgment.

I'd like to know your secret on how people with no money or travel history were able to visit you? I could learn a lot from you.