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Thread for outland Buffalo applicants!

cgagnon

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Nov 10, 2011
820
15
Montreal,QC
Category........
Visa Office......
LA(Buffalo)
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
02-03-2012
AOR Received.
None
File Transfer...
31-05-2012
Med's Done....
13-12-2011
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
10/10/2012
mapleleafs2011 said:
So I myself would qualify for the parental leave, but I was planning on quitting my job and moving. She would most likely have the baby 3 months after? Will I still qualify for the parental leave? Also, if I used the benefit, will it effect my wifes PR?
Are you here in Canada? As long as you have 600 insurable hours....and you meet the rest of the requirements you will be fine...you can have 5 jobs in the same year...You could call service canada and speak to a representative or go online... www.servicecanada.gc.ca
 

Calgary-Bound

Hero Member
Jun 9, 2011
420
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Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14/2/2011
AOR Received.
15/3/2011
File Transfer...
24/2/2011
Med's Done....
27/9/2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
02/04/2012
LANDED..........
28/04/2012
Havent been around in awhile.Congrats to all the PPR's and COPR letters people have recieved.Well I flew to Maui with the family for a week without my PR card and no problems till I got back to the airport in Calgary.The border officer tried to be an ass but I just ignored him and was like yup yup and he sent me to immigration.The lady in immigration said why did he send you in here for not haveing your card.She stamped my declaration card and said noone else will bother you and have a good day.
 

OhCanadiana

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Feb 27, 2010
3,086
217
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Looks like we'll be facing some changes, folks:

"Canada ending 'Buffalo shuffle' for visas, closing consulate" (source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/05/25/pol-weston-buffalo-consul.html)

"The Harper government is closing the Canadian consulate in Buffalo only 18 months after spending more than $1.5 million on renovations and signing a 10-year lease that is almost certain to stick taxpayers with millions in rent for empty offices, CBC News has learned.

"Foreign Affairs is expected to announce the closure, which will affect about 75 employees, sometime next week."

"All of the remaining functions of the Buffalo mission will be taken over by the consulate in New York City, the second-largest Canadian diplomatic office in the U.S. next to the main embassy in Washington."

ETA: confirmed at http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/consulate-in-buffalo-to-be-shuttered-after-visa-rules-changed/article2443860/
 

OhCanadiana

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Feb 27, 2010
3,086
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Job Offer........
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Calgary-Bound said:
Havent been around in awhile.Congrats to all the PPR's and COPR letters people have recieved.Well I flew to Maui with the family for a week without my PR card and no problems till I got back to the airport in Calgary.The border officer tried to be an ass but I just ignored him and was like yup yup and he sent me to immigration.The lady in immigration said why did he send you in here for not haveing your card.She stamped my declaration card and said noone else will bother you and have a good day.
I'm glad it all worked out in spite of the initial hiccup. Hope you had a lot of fun and celebrated your PR :)
 

cgagnon

Hero Member
Nov 10, 2011
820
15
Montreal,QC
Category........
Visa Office......
LA(Buffalo)
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
02-03-2012
AOR Received.
None
File Transfer...
31-05-2012
Med's Done....
13-12-2011
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
10/10/2012
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OhCanadiana said:
Looks like we'll be facing some changes, folks:

"Canada ending 'Buffalo shuffle' for visas, closing consulate" (source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/05/25/pol-weston-buffalo-consul.html)

"The Harper government is closing the Canadian consulate in Buffalo only 18 months after spending more than $1.5 million on renovations and signing a 10-year lease that is almost certain to stick taxpayers with millions in rent for empty offices, CBC News has learned.

"Foreign Affairs is expected to announce the closure, which will affect about 75 employees, sometime next week."

"All of the remaining functions of the Buffalo mission will be taken over by the consulate in New York City, the second-largest Canadian diplomatic office in the U.S. next to the main embassy in Washington."
Really!?!?!?!?!?! THIS IS BS!!!! ahhhh what a nightmare this will be... here we go more time to get approval!
 

muffy1

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Feb 21, 2012
371
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OH NO!! Are you kidding me?! I am (assuming) pretty close to getting a PPR from Buffalo and now they will be closing? *Sigh*. What happens to the files that get transferred to NY office? Do they "go to the bottom of the pile" so to speak or how long do you think this closure will delay things?

OhCanadiana said:
Looks like we'll be facing some changes, folks:

"Canada ending 'Buffalo shuffle' for visas, closing consulate" (source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/05/25/pol-weston-buffalo-consul.html)

"The Harper government is closing the Canadian consulate in Buffalo only 18 months after spending more than $1.5 million on renovations and signing a 10-year lease that is almost certain to stick taxpayers with millions in rent for empty offices, CBC News has learned.

"Foreign Affairs is expected to announce the closure, which will affect about 75 employees, sometime next week."

"All of the remaining functions of the Buffalo mission will be taken over by the consulate in New York City, the second-largest Canadian diplomatic office in the U.S. next to the main embassy in Washington."
 

bbiery

Star Member
Aug 7, 2011
64
3
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
04-10-2011
Doc's Request.
5-3-2012
AOR Received.
20-12-2011
Med's Request
08-03-2012
Med's Done....
20-09-2011
Passport Req..
26-04-2012/Decision Made 14-05-2012
muffy1 said:
OH NO!! Are you kidding me?! I am (assuming) pretty close to getting a PPR from Buffalo and now they will be closing? *Sigh*. What happens to the files that get transferred to NY office? Do they "go to the bottom of the pile" so to speak or how long do you think this closure will delay things?
I didn't see where they stated a closing date, so maybe they will still be processing for a while. I just made contact with them last week so I assume they are still there. This definitely doesn't sound like its going to help processing times out any though, I think since you are close to the end that you won't be affected, but new people that are just getting their apps into the flow might be experiencing delays as New York takes the brunt of the work.

edit: nevermind, saw it is closing next week :(
 

mattrox10

Star Member
Mar 31, 2012
62
0
Ontario Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
29-05-2012
Doc's Request.
04-06-2012
AOR Received.
25-07-2012
File Transfer...
08-08-2012
Med's Done....
07-04-2012
Passport Req..
28-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
08-03-2013
I have been collecting all my paper work making sure its all up to snuff before I send it out. I noticed that I need either imm 5481 OR Imm 1283. How do I know which one I need. I am sponsoring my husband from the US to Ontario. No other children. I have filled out 5481, but just need some clarification.
Thanks
 

muffy1

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Feb 21, 2012
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Does anyone know what the processing times are like for NY office? Or have any idea of what type of process takes place as far as how our files will be handled once transferred over? :( Thanks in advance for any help!
 

moochops

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Aug 13, 2011
224
6
123
Alberta
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
09-06-2011
Doc's Request.
06-01-2012
AOR Received.
24-08-2011
File Transfer...
09-08-2011
Med's Request
new request 19-12-2012
Med's Done....
24-10-2010 / 16-01-2013
Interview........
waived
OhCanadiana said:
Looks like we'll be facing some changes, folks:

"Canada ending 'Buffalo shuffle' for visas, closing consulate" (source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/05/25/pol-weston-buffalo-consul.html)

"The Harper government is closing the Canadian consulate in Buffalo only 18 months after spending more than $1.5 million on renovations and signing a 10-year lease that is almost certain to stick taxpayers with millions in rent for empty offices, CBC News has learned.

"Foreign Affairs is expected to announce the closure, which will affect about 75 employees, sometime next week."



Now I am legitimately p****d off :mad:

"All of the remaining functions of the Buffalo mission will be taken over by the consulate in New York City, the second-largest Canadian diplomatic office in the U.S. next to the main embassy in Washington."

ETA: confirmed at http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/consulate-in-buffalo-to-be-shuttered-after-visa-rules-changed/article2443860/
 

OhCanadiana

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I read these minutes from Parliament's Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration interviewing the Buffalo VO Program Manager a while back and today's news reminded me of it. Still think it's a good read.

Sad to see one of the most - if not the most - efficient visa office closing down. I hope that the knowledge the folks in Buffalo have gained gets put to good use in NYC and to hopefully make things faster for Vegreville too. I also wish the best for the folks who have been working very hard on all the applications in Buffalo.



"The Chair (Mr. David Tilson (Dufferin—Caledon, CPC)):
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.
This is the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration, meeting 47. Today we are televised, and pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) we are studying the immigration application process and wait times.
Today it's no different from the program we had at the last meeting. We have three groups of witnesses, and the meeting will be divided into three. The first group will end at 9:25 and the second group at 10:05, as you can see from the agenda.
We have with us today Mr. Gilbert—once again, sir, good morning to you—who is the director general of the international region. He will introduce our witnesses from the Department of Citizenship and Immigration in Buffalo.
Sir, you have the floor to introduce your colleagues.

Mr. Rénald Gilbert (Director General, International Region, Department of Citizenship and Immigration):
First, thank you very much for the invitation, Mr. Chair.
I'd like to introduce to you Burke Thornton and Catherine Bailey, who are from our office in Buffalo. Burke is the area director responsible for all the U.S. mission. He is also responsible for the office in the Caribbean. So he's the area director of the first group you met here two weeks ago. The office in Buffalo has produced the most visas of any office that CIC has. Burke is going to describe what they do.

The Chair:
Good morning, Mr. Thornton and Ms. Bailey. You can hear us?

Mr. Burke Thornton (Immigration Program Manager, Buffalo, New York, Department of Citizenship and Immigration):
Yes--loud and clear.

The Chair:
That's good.
Mr. Thornton, I assume it will be you, but one of you has up to seven minutes to make a presentation to us. We thank you for taking the time to speak to us this morning.
You may proceed.

Mr. Burke Thornton:
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
I'd like to thank the committee for inviting us to speak.
As Mr. Gilbert has indicated, my name is Burke Thornton, and I'm the immigration program manager in Buffalo. I am joined by Catherine Bailey, who is our deputy program manager.
I'd like to provide a short overview of the program in Buffalo, emphasizing some topics that I believe would be of interest to the committee.
We are an office of 51 people, including Canada-based officers and local staff. Approximately half our staff are Canadian citizens and residents who commute from the nearby communities of Fort Erie, St. Catharines, and the Niagara region, across the bridge daily, to work at our consulate in Buffalo.
I will start the description of the program with the temporary residence program.
Our movement is incredibly varied. We have applicants from more than 160 countries applying at the consulate in Buffalo. Only a very small part of this non-immigrant movement are U.S. citizens, because visitors are visa-exempt, and most U.S. students and workers apply directly at ports of entry into Canada.
Our temporary resident program has been characterized by continuous growth over the past few years. We have set a new record for output every year since 2005. Our intake has increased 64% since 2005, and 25% in the past two years alone.
We have now surpassed New York, our colleagues in New York, as the U.S. mission with the highest non-immigrant application intake, and we have made the top-ten list globally.
Acceptance rates are much higher than global norms, running to about 94% or 95%, as most of our applicants have already been admitted to Canada or the U.S.A. So we have the advantage of having, if you like, a pre-screening done on those applicants.
While we offer walk-in service four mornings a week, approximately 80% of applications are submitted by mail, and we have established a post office box in Fort Erie, Ontario, just across the bridge, so that our Canadian clients can submit applications entirely using the Canadian postal system. Because of the high percentage of mail-in applications, our processing times are lengthier than in most offices where walk-in service is the norm, but still approximately 67% are finalized in 14 days or less.
Here is just a word about students. Our numbers have increased 54% in the last two years. Most of our applicants live in Canada. Korea is the country from which we have the highest intake, with about 18%, and that's followed by the U.S.A., running about 12%.
With regard to temporary foreign workers, again, most of our temporary applicants reside in Canada, having entered as visitors. Buffalo received 2,800 such applications in 2010, which is an 80% increase in the last five years.
With respect to permanent residents, Buffalo is responsible for the intake of all permanent resident applications submitted by persons lawfully admitted to Canada or the United States for at least one year.
We're the regional program centre and the hub of the United States delivery network, and our partner offices are in Detroit, New York, Seattle, Los Angeles, and Washington.
Our office is responsible for the initial review of applications. This includes the creation of the paper and electronic files as well as the initiation of security and criminality checks. Buffalo keeps approximately 50% of the applications and sends the other 50% to the other four U.S. offices for processing.
In 2010, the U.S. delivery network received the highest volume of permanent resident applications, approximately 20,400, and issued the most visas, approximately 38,500, out of all visa offices and regional program centres across the world.
Approximately 15%, or one in six, of all visas issued abroad in 2010 were issued by the U.S. delivery network. We expect similar results for 2011.
A high percentage of applicants are from Canada or residing in Canada, and that is due in part to the growing uptake from the provincial nominee program and Canadian experience class.
I'd like to talk a little bit about provincial nominees and skilled workers. We received the largest volume of nominees, more than 6,000, and issued the most visas in this category, approximately 13,000.
(0850)

Our application intake has seen a significant shift in recent years. In 2010 the issuance of nominee visas exceeded that of federal skilled workers for the first time in our history. Even so, we delivered a significant proportion of the skilled worker visas in 2010--almost 17,000--and that includes quite a large Quebec skilled worker caseload.
We are responsible for processing all Canadian experience class cases. That movement is going up. We issued 3,900 visas in 2010 and we expect to issue 5,000 in 2011. In the family class priority we issued 3,700 such visas in 2010, again including Quebec cases. That's the second-largest in the world.
Many of these cases are straightforward, but there can be challenges--high incidence of criminal convictions, difficulty in obtaining medical results from non-accompanying dependents, and difficulties in motivating certain applicants to comply with processing requirements. Most of these cases are finalized well within one year. And we are able to finalize 50% of our spousal cases in less than six months, once they're received.
In 2010 we issued almost 450 visas for parents and grandparents. Processing time is currently about 19 months. We expect to issue close to the same number of visas in 2011.
We believe we're in a good position to deliver on our commitments this year and will continue to try to motivate ourselves and our staff to make ourselves the most efficient visa office in the global network.
Thank you.
(0855)


The Chair:
Thank you, sir.
We will have some questions. Each caucus will have up to six minutes.
Mr. Wrzesnewskyj.

Mr. Borys Wrzesnewskyj (Etobicoke Centre, Lib.):
Thank you, Chair.
I'd like to start with our witnesses in Buffalo. You say a high percentage of applications are from Canada. What is the actual percentage?

Mr. Burke Thornton:
Probably about 80%. People both on the permanent resident side and on the non-immigrant side are currently temporarily residing in Canada.

Mr. Borys Wrzesnewskyj:
So in actual numbers the 80% translates into approximately....

Mr. Burke Thornton:
I'll just do a quick bit of math here: from the Buffalo office alone, about 16,000 permanent resident visas and about 24,000 temporary resident visas per year.

Mr. Borys Wrzesnewskyj:
That would be Canadian-based?

Mr. Burke Thornton:
That would be persons currently temporarily residing in Canada, yes.

Mr. Borys Wrzesnewskyj:
Can you just repeat those approximate numbers?

Mr. Burke Thornton:
I believe it was 16,000--this is from the Buffalo office alone--

Mr. Borys Wrzesnewskyj:
Yes.

Mr. Burke Thornton:
--who are Canadian residents on the permanent side, and 24,000 on the temporary side.

Mr. Borys Wrzesnewskyj:
So approximately 40,000 are processed that are Canadian-based.

Mr. Burke Thornton:
Yes.

Mr. Borys Wrzesnewskyj:
You mention a large portion are done through the mail, but many are also done in person. What percentage of the Canadian visas would be done in person in Buffalo?

Mr. Burke Thornton:
We offer walk-in service on the non-immigrant side, and I would say again approximately 20% of our Canadian applicants opt for walk-in processing. It's currently same-day service so if they're within commuting distance of the Buffalo office they prefer to take advantage of that service and come down, apply, and get their visas in Buffalo on the same day.
On the permanent resident side we interview probably between 5% to 10% of our applicants, so unless we have a good reason to interview them, we will conduct the process entirely through correspondence.

Mr. Borys Wrzesnewskyj:
So we have a situation where we have a Canadian government operation in Buffalo, across the border in the States, which necessitates people in Canada travelling across the border if they want fast, same-day service. My colleague here says that it's widely known as the Buffalo Shuffle. So they travel from Canada to Canadian government offices in the United States and then turn around and travel back to Canada. Wouldn't it just make sense to find a way to cut out that bureaucracy--that little loop, that Buffalo shuffle--and make things a little more efficient and perhaps have the offices located in Canada?

Mr. Burke Thornton:
There are a couple of reasons why we do it the way we do. One is that the act requires applicants, except in certain very strict categories, to apply outside of Canada.
The second reason is that we have, if I may say so, a very efficient operation here. We have officers with a combined experience of more than 300 years. Where we are--quote--“in competition” with our inland colleagues, we process applications more quickly and more efficiently than they do.
To give you an example, if you have a spouse in Canada and you wish to have that spouse achieve immigration status, you have a choice of applying through the office in Vegreville, Alberta, or through the consulate in Buffalo. We are consistently and significantly faster in our processing than the Canadian office.
(0900)


Mr. Borys Wrzesnewskyj:
I'd actually like to congratulate you on your efficiency. We'd like to see that sort of efficiency in our Canadian government offices based in Canada.
You know, it's a bit of a facade here. Yes, there's a requirement of the act, but it would seem that we're engaged in a strange sort of facade to maintain a portion of the act that in fact seems to be somewhat irrelevant in these cases.
A large portion of these are mail-ins, so technically, I guess, because the mail arrives in Buffalo, it satisfies the act. But the people who are doing the mail-ins are actually living in Canada. So I think there's a potential for a quick fix there to stop some of this bureaucratic shuffling that goes on.
Just out of curiosity, you've noted that your staff are super-efficient and extremely experienced; how many are locally hired as opposed to Canadian?

Mr. Burke Thornton:
We have six Canada-based and 45 locally engaged staff.
Mr. Borys Wrzesnewskyj: Thank you.
"

http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?DocId=5022762&Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=40&Ses=3#Int-3785764
 

Jenny parsely

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Feb 2, 2012
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Finallyyy got PPR!!!! :) :)

Does anyone know how to send the pre paid postage US EXPRESS MAIL? I mean do you send it by folding the US EXPRESS MAIL with the passport mail or how?


Please advise
 

Jenny parsely

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Feb 2, 2012
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Hi,

My version of PPR looks like this. It does not include "To be completed and returned with your passports"


"Dear Applicant:



This refers to your application for permanent residence in Canada. We are now in a position to request your passports for visa issuance.



Please submit your passport(s) to the Consulate General of Canada in Detroit within the next 90 days. The issuance of your visa(s) is time sensitive so it is important for you to submit your passport(s) as requested. Please note, though your passport(s) is/are due in Detroit within the next 90 days, you must check your documents upon receipt. There will be a validity date indicated, and the landing must take place on or before that date. The visas cannot be extended. If you are not prepared to live permanently in Canada immediately after landing, please consult the website regarding residency requirements in order to ensure that you retain your status in Canada.


Two (2) recent photographs of yourself and each accompanying family member are also required.

DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE.

FOLLOW THE LINKS BELOW FOR IMPORTANT INFORMATION THAT WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE:

Passport requirements

Photographs, height and eye colour

Instructions for passport submission

Important notice for family members


Please advise do I need to send the "To be completed and returned with your passports" part with my passport.




GOGOGO said:
To be completed and returned with your passports

FILE NUMBER : : Bnnnnnnnnn-T/Fnnnnnnnnn-T/XXXXXXXX, XXXXXXXXXXXX

Permanent Resident Visa Authorization–

I agree that the permanent resident visa will be affixed to my passport and dependents' passports, if applicable.

My Permanent Resident visa will be mailed to _________________________________

(your name or authorized individual) at the following address:
Street Address:__________________________________________________
Suite/Apt #:_____________________________________________________
City:___________________________________________________________
Province/State: __________________________________________________
Zip/Postal Code: ________________________________________________
Phone #: _______________________________________________________
Fax #: _________________________________________________________
Email address: __________________________________________________
Applicants' Signature: ____________________________Date_______________

Please indicate height and eye colour for yourself and all accompanying family members below:

Eye colour choices include: Blue, Green, Grey, Black, Brown, Hazel or Other

Name:___________________________ Date of Birth_________________
Height: ______cm or ________feet _______inches eye colour________

(repeat 5 more times)
 

GOGOGO

Hero Member
Jan 12, 2012
540
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Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo->New York
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
27-09-2011
Doc's Request.
23-02-2012
AOR Received.
04-01-2012 (Email from Buffalo)
File Transfer...
02-02-2012 (Buffalo->New York: notified by email from Buffalo)
Med's Done....
18-01-2012
Passport Req..
11-04-2012; 23Apr: PP copy delivered at NY
VISA ISSUED...
01-05-2012 (as per COPR); 4May: Decision Made on eCAS; 8May: COPR rcvd (Canada address)
LANDED..........
10-05-2012; 12May: Status in eCAS disappeared; 13Jul: PR Card rcv'd
I hope that means all the oldies will be granted PPR very soon! 8)

Does it also mean this 'Buffalo' thread will come to an end, or else be renamed to 'US' thread?

OhCanadiana said:
"Canada ending 'Buffalo shuffle' for visas, closing consulate"
 

GOGOGO

Hero Member
Jan 12, 2012
540
13
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo->New York
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
27-09-2011
Doc's Request.
23-02-2012
AOR Received.
04-01-2012 (Email from Buffalo)
File Transfer...
02-02-2012 (Buffalo->New York: notified by email from Buffalo)
Med's Done....
18-01-2012
Passport Req..
11-04-2012; 23Apr: PP copy delivered at NY
VISA ISSUED...
01-05-2012 (as per COPR); 4May: Decision Made on eCAS; 8May: COPR rcvd (Canada address)
LANDED..........
10-05-2012; 12May: Status in eCAS disappeared; 13Jul: PR Card rcv'd
Only 5481 for spousal sponsorship. All spousal sponsorship outland application forms should be under http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/fc.asp

Note: 1283 is for 'Family Class: Other eligible relatives'

mattrox10 said:
I have been collecting all my paper work making sure its all up to snuff before I send it out. I noticed that I need either imm 5481 OR Imm 1283. How do I know which one I need. I am sponsoring my husband from the US to Ontario. No other children. I have filled out 5481, but just need some clarification.
Thanks