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[Mesh2003]

Hi @legalfalcon

Thank you for your time. I need your take on this. I have ordered 2 gcms notes in November 2018 and February 2019. Both show the same.

Eligibility recommended pass

Criminality In progress

Security not started.


I am AOR July 22nd, 2018. CEC Inland. Its over 8 months for me and I reached out to my MP last week.

Yesterday they told me that my eligibility has been passed, criminality in progress as they are still waiting for RCMP to get back to them.( weird) Security not started.


My confusion;

Based on my notes, RCMP screening shows “No Reportable Trace” as at September 2018. They also didn’t request for RCMP report. I was surprised to hear that they were waiting for RCMP.

Can I say that they meant CSIS but then my security hasn’t started?

If my eligibility is passed, how come security hasn’t started? Thought its normally triggered once eligibility has been passed.

Do they start security with eligibility “recommended passed”?

Why is criminality taking so long for me? Based on the analyst notes criminality was recommended pass.

I noticed that my application hasn’t been touched since September 2018 based on the gcms notes received in February.

On the 1st and 2nd gcms notes I noticed my security and criminality due dates to be August 13th, 2019. Is that why application has not been touched?

 

[canada@1]

Hi,
Could you please let me know if we need to provide POF if we have full time job in Canada..even I’m a PNP-Inland applicant.

Thanks!!

Not needed when we have full time as per cic.but people do provide.
I have provided and have RR for it when it is not necessary

 

[Midnight Blessing]

Hi @legalfalcon

Hope you are fine.

My brother will be applying for his PR. He has a scenario like he will be using NOC that is related to HR executive, however he already have a visit Visa on Canada where he applied as a Director of the company. In this scenario, whether it will be any problem for him to apply as a HR or what should he do now? It will be great to have your reply on this. thanks

 

[dec12aor]

Not needed when we have full time as per cic.but people do provide.
I have provided and have RR for it when it is not necessary

Cool..Thanks!!

 

[legalfalcon]

Hi @legalfalcon

Hope you are fine.

My brother will be applying for his PR. He has a scenario like he will be using NOC that is related to HR executive, however he already have a visit Visa on Canada where he applied as a Director of the company. In this scenario, whether it will be any problem for him to apply as a HR or what should he do now? It will be great to have your reply on this. thanks

If he is the director of the company, then he needs to file his PR application as self employed and not as employee.

 

[shah009]

Hi, @legalfalcon
AOR- 10 Dec,2018
I have called cic agent and got know
Eligibility - RR
Criminality - in progress
Security- not started
I have read many post and got really worried for this RR. Is there something risky?
Would my timeline be affected?
I ordered gcms notes yesterday
Kindly experts guide on above

 

[legalfalcon]

Hi @legalfalcon

Thank you for your time. I need your take on this. I have ordered 2 gcms notes in November 2018 and February 2019. Both show the same.

Eligibility recommended pass

Criminality In progress

Security not started.


I am AOR July 22nd, 2018. CEC Inland. Its over 8 months for me and I reached out to my MP last week.

Yesterday they told me that my eligibility has been passed, criminality in progress as they are still waiting for RCMP to get back to them.( weird) Security not started.


My confusion;

Based on my notes, RCMP screening shows “No Reportable Trace” as at September 2018. They also didn’t request for RCMP report. I was surprised to hear that they were waiting for RCMP.

Can I say that they meant CSIS but then my security hasn’t started?

If my eligibility is passed, how come security hasn’t started? Thought its normally triggered once eligibility has been passed.

Do they start security with eligibility “recommended passed”?

Why is criminality taking so long for me? Based on the analyst notes criminality was recommended pass.

I noticed that my application hasn’t been touched since September 2018 based on the gcms notes received in February.

On the 1st and 2nd gcms notes I noticed my security and criminality due dates to be August 13th, 2019. Is that why application has not been touched?

The RCMP report is required to meet the criminality. Only after Criminality and Eliogibility is met, will the security start.

CSIS and CBSA only get involved after the security initiates.

Recommended passed is only a recommendation by an analyst. This will have to be reviewed by an officer who will make a final determination and only after that will the security start.

This time of the year delays are common due to student visas.

 

[legalfalcon]

Hi, @legalfalcon
AOR- 10 Dec,2018
I have called cic agent and got know
Eligibility - RR
Criminality - in progress
Security- not started
I have read many post and got really worried for this RR. Is there something risky?
Would my timeline be affected?
I ordered gcms notes yesterday
Kindly experts guide on above

Understanding “Review Required”*

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

There are just some of the scenarios.

In your case you will have to see your GCMS notes to know why you have RR.

Hope this helps.

 

[legalfalcon]

Hi,
Could you please let me know if we need to provide POF if we have full time job in Canada..even I’m a PNP-Inland applicant.

Thanks!!

If you have a full-time job in Canada you do not need to provide PoF.

 

[legalfalcon]

hi @legalfalcon

I am inland PNP applicant. AOR sept 3,2018. As per gcms notes received on march 12 my status is below.
Eligibility- RR for pof
criminality,medicals - passed
security not started

I have raised cse to check any movement on file 2 days back and received below email. Is this something positive in movement or a generic reply.


Thank you for contacting Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC).

We wish to thank you for your patience and to inform you that the information you have provided has been forwarded to the responsible office.

Your permanent residence application should be reviewed shortly.

Rest assured that you will be informed as soon as a decision is reached or if additional information is needed.

This is a generic reply

 

[legalfalcon]

Hi @legalfalcon,

Need your inputs,
My AOR is 31Oct and latest update from CIC on application is as below,:

The responsible office in Ottawa, Ontario is currently verifying if your application meets the eligibility requirements under the immigration program for which you have applied,
you may be contacted via your account if additional information is needed.
The background verifications are currently in process.


Can eligibility and background check be in progress at the same time?

The Background verification is a combination of Security, criminality, info sharing etc.

Only after eligibility is passed, the security will commence, but info-sharing and criminality happen before eligibility is reviewed.

 

[legalfalcon]

i have the GCMS notes which i received in February

under which section should i look for the R10 Pass date?

See the notes in the last 5-7 pages.

There will be a note pertaining to R10. If you do not have it, then your R10 has not yet passed.

https://www.getgcms.com/blog/express-entry-application-processed/

 

[shah009]

Thank you

Understanding “Review Required”*

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

There are just some of the scenarios.

In your case you will have to see your GCMS notes to know why you have RR.

Hope this helps.

 

[shah009]

Yeah I understand the concept for RR. Looking my case i have 2 job exerience for my CEC application.
One of my experience letter have less duties on it 4-5. Will this affect ? Can i be under RR for this?
I have also raised CSE and sent updated experience letter with more duties on it few days back

I have one more concern

I am in Canada on POWP and my wife is in india. Can we apply for her SOWP (dual intent). She was previously in Canada on dependent work permit on her previous husband. Will it affect anyway if we apply for SOWP?

Understanding “Review Required”*

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

There are just some of the scenarios.

In your case you will have to see your GCMS notes to know why you have RR.

Hope this helps.

 

[Mesh2003]

The RCMP report is required to meet the criminality. Only after Criminality and Eliogibility is met, will the security start.

CSIS and CBSA only get involved after the security initiates.

Recommended passed is only a recommendation by an analyst. This will have to be reviewed by an officer who will make a final determination and only after that will the security start.

This time of the year delays are common due to student visas.

Thank you for your response. My understanding from my gcms notes is that there is NRT from RCMP.
Do you suggest I submit RCMP report myself? It takes 3 days or less according to their website when their is no criminality match.