Study Permit refused due to "purpose of your visit", is it possible for IRCC to reconsider?

[pedrocoelho]

Last Saturday I had my study permit application refused by IRCC. My last correspondence letter says the following:

"I am refusing your application on the following grounds:
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit."

I've already ordered an ATIP, but also wrote them a letter to ask for reconsideration, especially since I've already started my online studies (from my home country). I emailed this letter to the visa office that refused my application alongside some supporting documents, and also submitted them via web form.

How common is it for IRCC to reconsider applications that were refused like this?

I chose the Associate of Arts program at a business university, having been a Computer Engineering student in the past who dropped out. Even though I explained this in my application, I believe this was most likely the reason for my refusal.

 

[Naturgrl]

Order GCMS notes. What school? And why arts, how does it help your career in your home country since it doesn’t improve on your education.

You need to reapply. Reconsiderations are rarely considered. Why would you start a program without a study permit?

 

[pedrocoelho]

Order GCMS notes. What school? And why arts, how does it help your career in your home country since it doesn’t improve on your education.

You need to reapply. Reconsiderations are rarely considered. Why would you start a program without a study permit?

I've ordered them. University Canada West, there's "Arts" in the program's name but it's about business. I did explain how it would help me in my home country, since I work as an Administrative Technician in the Oil & Gas industry, but apparently they weren't convinced.

I started my studies without the permit because UCW allowed me to, and offers full refunds in case of study permit refusal. I'm not ready to give up yet, though

 

[thaovy99]

I've ordered them. University Canada West, there's "Arts" in the program's name but it's about business. I did explain how it would help me in my home country, since I work as an Administrative Technician in the Oil & Gas industry, but apparently they weren't convinced.

I started my studies without the permit because UCW allowed me to, and offers full refunds in case of study permit refusal. I'm not ready to give up yet, though

UCW is known for its bad reputation and study permit refusal cases. Consideration will not help. You probably need to submit a new application. Depends on your profile and background, the reason behind refusal may be the choice of UCW itself. You dropped school before, that's a really bad sign for IRCC. Your chances are low. Order GCMS Notes first before any other approaches.

 

[Naturgrl]

I've ordered them. University Canada West, there's "Arts" in the program's name but it's about business. I did explain how it would help me in my home country, since I work as an Administrative Technician in the Oil & Gas industry, but apparently they weren't convinced.

I started my studies without the permit because UCW allowed me to, and offers full refunds in case of study permit refusal. I'm not ready to give up yet, though

UCW is a private university that no one has heard about it with a poor reputation. It caters to international students. Of course, UCW is going to allow you to start without a study permit. So look at public universities and stay away from UCW and private colleges. How can an "arts" program be a business program. You work as a technician so an arts degree makes no sense. Get a refund from UCW.

 

[pedrocoelho]

UCW is known for its bad reputation and study permit refusal cases. Consideration will not help. You probably need to submit a new application. Depends on your profile and background, the reason behind refusal may be the choice of UCW itself. You dropped school before, that's a really bad sign for IRCC. Your chances are low. Order GCMS Notes first before any other approaches.

Well, that sucks. I thought they'd understand it's not exactly easy figuring out what you want to do for the rest of your life at 16 years old, when you're graduating from high school. But thanks for the advice, I've already ordered GCMS Notes

 

[thaovy99]

You should not blame anyone for the result. The truth is that with 30 seconds on Google, you will be able to see bad bad really bad reviews about UCW. Why are still going there? Studying abroad is something that you should take serious. Research is a must. 16 years old or 60 years old, you should be able to identify and stay away from bad universities. If you don't know what you want to do with your life, ask your parents, go for career orientation, talk to a specialist. Dont just apply and hope that your application will be approved.

I am really surprised that a high school fresh graduate is going for UCW. UCW is usually for people who can not have admission anywhere else and whose real intent is to immigrate to Canada. They basically dont care about their education and where it takes them. If you truly want to do your studies in Canada, chose another school. UCW is among the worst. I swear.

 

[Naturgrl]

Well, that sucks. I thought they'd understand it's not exactly easy figuring out what you want to do for the rest of your life at 16 years old, when you're graduating from high school. But thanks for the advice, I've already ordered GCMS Notes

So you are 16 years old who has already dropped out of a computer engineering program and now works as a Administrative Technician in the Oil & Gas industry?

 

[B-7]

Don't want to just echo everyone else but: order the GCMS notes. You will see what exactly the officer processing your app didn't like. There's no problem in submitting a subsequent application, and if you'll manage to directly address the pointed out issues, they might approve it.

 

[pedrocoelho]

UCW is a private university that no one has heard about it with a poor reputation. It caters to international students. Of course, UCW is going to allow you to start without a study permit. So look at public universities and stay away from UCW and private college. How can an "arts" program be a business program. You work as a technician so an arts degree makes no sense. Get a refund from UCW.

I work as an Administrative Technician (as in Administrative Assistant - this was my title when I applied). Associate of Arts isn't necessarily in arts. I appreciate you trying to help, and I'll see what I can do with an immigration consultant after I receive my GCMS notes.

 

[pedrocoelho]

So you are 16 years old who has already dropped out of a computer engineering program and now works as a Administrative Technician in the Oil & Gas industry?

Close, but no. I started computer engineering at 16 years old and dropped out 2 years later - because I didn't enjoy computer programming and especially because there's little opportunity for fresh Engineering graduates and technology workers where I live. That's when I decided to start working in Oil & Gas (the most developed industry in my hometown) as an admin assistant - and have been in the same company for the last 3 years.

 

[pedrocoelho]

You should not blame anyone for the result. The truth is that with 30 seconds on Google, you will be able to see bad bad really bad reviews about UCW. Why are still going there? Studying abroad is something that you should take serious. Research is a must. 16 years old or 60 years old, you should be able to identify and stay away from bad universities. If you don't know what you want to do with your life, ask your parents, go for career orientation, talk to a specialist. Dont just apply and hope that your application will be approved.

I am really surprised that a high school fresh graduate is going for UCW. UCW is usually for people who can not have admission anywhere else and whose real intent is to immigrate to Canada. They basically dont care about their education and where it takes them. If you truly want to do your studies in Canada, chose another school. UCW is among the worst. I swear.

I know that's what it sounded like but I'm not trying to blame anyone, I'm just surprised at what you said about IRCC's view on dropouts. The purpose of the Associate of Arts is introducing students to business. Which is why you can either take your degree after completing the two years of the program or transfer your credits into a Bachelor's. I did my research and genuinely think this is a reasonable path for me.

But I'm not gonna lie, UCW's low tuition contributed to my choice significantly (I received their Americas Tuition award, which offers international students domestic pricing). Although I saw bad reviews about them, their administration recently changed and I saw many good reviews of their MBA program, so decided to give them a shot.

 

[sb22651]

Last Saturday I had my study permit application refused by IRCC. My last correspondence letter says the following:

"I am refusing your application on the following grounds:
• I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your stay, as stipulated in subsection 216(1) of the IRPR, based on the purpose of your visit."

I've already ordered an ATIP, but also wrote them a letter to ask for reconsideration, especially since I've already started my online studies (from my home country). I emailed this letter to the visa office that refused my application alongside some supporting documents, and also submitted them via web form.

How common is it for IRCC to reconsider applications that were refused like this?

I chose the Associate of Arts program at a business university, having been a Computer Engineering student in the past who dropped out. Even though I explained this in my application, I believe this was most likely the reason for my refusal.

What is there to reconsider anyway? You can't email them, your file has been closed. If you really think they made a mistake, file a lawsuit against them.

 

[sb22651]

I know that's what it sounded like but I'm not trying to blame anyone, I'm just surprised at what you said about IRCC's view on dropouts. The purpose of the Associate of Arts is introducing students to business. Which is why you can either take your degree after completing the two years of the program or transfer your credits into a Bachelor's. I did my research and genuinely think this is a reasonable path for me.

But I'm not gonna lie, UCW's low tuition contributed to my choice significantly (I received their Americas Tuition award, which offers international students domestic pricing). Although I saw bad reviews about them, their administration recently changed and I saw many good reviews of their MBA program, so decided to give them a shot.

Why do you need to fly all the way to Canada to do an introductory course into business? and in a degree mill?

The VO is correct that your purpose of visit is suspicious and you would not leave Canada at the end of your stay

 

[Naturgrl]

I know that's what it sounded like but I'm not trying to blame anyone, I'm just surprised at what you said about IRCC's view on dropouts. The purpose of the Associate of Arts is introducing students to business. Which is why you can either take your degree after completing the two years of the program or transfer your credits into a Bachelor's. I did my research and genuinely think this is a reasonable path for me.

But I'm not gonna lie, UCW's low tuition contributed to my choice significantly (I received their Americas Tuition award, which offers international students domestic pricing). Although I saw bad reviews about them, their administration recently changed and I saw many good reviews of their MBA program, so decided to give them a shot.

You are taking an Associate of Arts, which doesn’t even exist in the Canadian public system. So you are transferring to a public university? How will this program help your career in your home country.