Stayed in Canada on Study permit without studying

[dalrir]

Hey everyone!

So i'd like to explain this situation first. So my brother and I got a study permit in 2014 and ends on dec 2018. However, after the first year at uni, my brother dropped out due to low grades. He stayed in Canada for a year and started studying in another institute again after a year of doing nothing once he dropped out after first year. Then, after his first year in his second institute, he was kept on academic suspension where he was not allowed to take any classes for 8 months and again, he did not do anything. Now we are extending our study permits further as I have about 6 months left in my school, and he still has more (he has returned to studying this september and is enrolled in classes as a full time student again). However, they have requested that he provide proof of his education throughout the years. If he was not in school, they are asking him to provide a reason for this. What can he say to get him the best chances of extending his permit? The reason he did not do well in the beginning was due to personal problems, but there are no medical records or anything for this. Any and all help would be appreciated!

Thank you!

 

[canuck78]

Very lucky he didn't lose his study permit after not attending uni. They should have reported him for not attending classes. He will have to do his best to include any proof possible. Given the fact that he had 2 long breaks from school an extension could be difficult. If he is now doing well in school and has a few semesters to prove that he is now on the track to success that might help. Even if he gets the extension he may still have problems getting a PGWP.

 

[dalrir]

Thanks for the quick reply! The thing is, he has left and returned to Canada multiple times on that study permit. Would they not have known when they checked his passport or something? Sorry if this sounds like a silly question. Just not sure what the rules are. Also he did not work illegally at all either (he did not do any work whatsoever) so would this look slightly better when providing his proof? We had no idea that the study permit should have been 'lost' or 'terminated' after he dropped out.

 

[canuck78]

The school was supposed to report him within 90 days after not attending his program. They clearly didn't. There is so many international students in Canada that they would not have realized he wasn't attending school unless he was reported by the school or until after he applied for an extension or PGWP. Yes showing that he never worked will help because he followed that rule but he needs to explain what happened and why he didn't do well and include any supporting evidence. If he has a semester (preferably more) where it shows that he is now doing well that can only help.

 

[dalrir]

The school was supposed to report him within 90 days after not attending his program. They clearly didn't. There is so many international students in Canada that they would not have realized he wasn't attending school unless he was reported by the school or until after he applied for an extension or PGWP. Yes showing that he never worked will help because he followed that rule but he needs to explain what happened and why he didn't do well and include any supporting evidence. If he has a semester (preferably more) where it shows that he is now doing well that can only help.

Thank you so much for your help! hopefully they'll see that this was an honest mistake

 

[dalrir]

The school was supposed to report him within 90 days after not attending his program. They clearly didn't. There is so many international students in Canada that they would not have realized he wasn't attending school unless he was reported by the school or until after he applied for an extension or PGWP. Yes showing that he never worked will help because he followed that rule but he needs to explain what happened and why he didn't do well and include any supporting evidence. If he has a semester (preferably more) where it shows that he is now doing well that can only help.

Hey, sorry to bring this up again. My brother just got his application back and they have rejected him. I was wondering how the reapplication process would work. Should he apply for a new study permit now or later? Should he leave the country and do so even though it expires on dec 31st 2018, or can he do it from here?

Sorry for the barrage of questions!

 

[scylla]

Hey, sorry to bring this up again. My brother just got his application back and they have rejected him. I was wondering how the reapplication process would work. Should he apply for a new study permit now or later? Should he leave the country and do so even though it expires on dec 31st 2018, or can he do it from here?

Sorry for the barrage of questions!

Depends on why he was refused.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Hey, sorry to bring this up again. My brother just got his application back and they have rejected him. I was wondering how the reapplication process would work. Should he apply for a new study permit now or later? Should he leave the country and do so even though it expires on dec 31st 2018, or can he do it from here?

Sorry for the barrage of questions!

By not continuing his studies and failing his courses, he has shown that he is not really a genuine student. Another application right now has little chance of approval, whether he applies from Canada or not.

 

[dalrir]

By not continuing his studies and failing his courses, he has shown that he is not really a genuine student. Another application right now has little chance of approval, whether he applies from Canada or not.

Would it make a difference if he applied for new study permit altogether instead of just an extension? or is that the same things?

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Would it make a difference if he applied for new study permit altogether instead of just an extension? or is that the same things?

Same thing.