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pinx09

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Jan 14, 2021
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If I (sponsor) become the representative for my spouse, can we still link the application online? or do we have to rely on email communications? Please advise what's the best thing to do?
Yes...I am also the sponsor and rep. I did it as well but make sure to use his info.
 

AranChen

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Mar 27, 2021
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You have a lot of questions here. I'll try to focus on the most important:
1) You should apply for citizenship for your child right away, along with passport. You may have difficulties travelling with the child if you don't. (I believe the practice is that they will issue a temporary passport fairly quickly, the 'citizenship' may come later, but that's administrative -it's basically recognition that the citizenship is likely even if not formally granted. Caveat, not an expert on this, but as you'll see below, you do need to apply for it asap)
2) Entering on a visa waiver/ETA gives temporary resident status - it just means you've entered as a 'visitor.' (I'm being simple with the terminology).
3) Very unlikely the border agent would give a longer entry right, but it can be extended fairly easily during the process. This answers your question 4 above - she should be able to extend her visitor status without leaving the country.
4) Although 'dual intent' exists, the border officer can refuse entry if they think you won't respect terms of entry. In practical terms, it's not a good idea to eg show up with all worldly belongings as demonstrating no intent to ever leave. (This is a difficult topic).
5) Otherwise the idea to apply inland as you described is mostly okay.
6) If the plan is to move to Canada in november, it may make more sense to apply now as outland. She should still be able to enter on ETA. It's possible it could be done by then - but no guarantee. Important point: you WILL need to show docs that you have applied for child's citizenship/passport, so do that now. (You don't need the response or answer from govt, just a copy that you have applied)

The main decision point for you is whether to apply outland (now-ish) or inland. My guess - and only a guess - is that you would not gain time by waiting and applying inland. You've been married more than five years, have a child, etc - your relationship is unlikely to be questioned and the UK / UK citizens are usually not issues on the security/criminality side.

One note: if you apply outland you will need to show 'intent to return to Canada' - read up on this. Basiclly some evidence that you've made plans to move (where, looked for a place, etc) and have some notion of how you and your spouse will support yourselves (savings, job plans, etc). There are no fixed requirements for this like income or how you demonstrate but you need to show something.
@armoured Thank you for addressing all my questions - your answers are very helpful. Of course I have follow ups. Numbered as per your responses...
4) With this in mind - would you advise against shipping our belongings for our arrival in November (it's not a whole house just personal belongings)? Also, we have a dog that we intend to bring with us - will showing up with a dog raise alarm bells?
6) With regards to my son: I have heard that citizenship certificate applications are extremely delayed (I have a friend who applied for his daughter from here in the UK early last year and have still not received it) With this in mind I have contacted the embassy in London and as you say they have advised that we can apply for a LVP once we've applied for his citizenship on the basis that we need it for my wife's PR application. But if I'm understanding you correctly it's actually just the proof of applications for both that we'll need?
On the final paragraph - according to the IRCC processing calculator a Work Permit takes 50 days so my thinking is that if we arrive November at worse my wife should have a work permit by end of Jan at the latest. Compared to the calculator saying it will take 12 months for an Outland application. Do you have any information/sources on the accuracy of these times? Or indeed any current information on actual processing times for other applicants?
 

armoured

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@armoured Thank you for addressing all my questions - your answers are very helpful. Of course I have follow ups. Numbered as per your responses...
4) With this in mind - would you advise against shipping our belongings for our arrival in November (it's not a whole house just personal belongings)? Also, we have a dog that we intend to bring with us - will showing up with a dog raise alarm bells?
I don't know, as I said, it's a tricky issue. First - I don't think the spouse can receive belongings duty-free until she has pr status, you'll need to confirm. Obviously you can ship your stuff, and if the dog is yours, then what can they say?

As noted, this dual intent stuff can be a bit tricky - as no, she should not be moving such that she will never leave, but they may be somewhat lenient in situations with kids, etc.

6) With regards to my son: I have heard that citizenship certificate applications are extremely delayed (I have a friend who applied for his daughter from here in the UK early last year and have still not received it) With this in mind I have contacted the embassy in London and as you say they have advised that we can apply for a LVP once we've applied for his citizenship on the basis that we need it for my wife's PR application. But if I'm understanding you correctly it's actually just the proof of applications for both that we'll need?
I don't know what you mean by both - you'll have to check passport procedures. (I thought it was possible to apply for both citizenship and passport at same time - what's LVP?). The point being as a citizen he should enter and travel to Canada on Canadian passport.

For the PR application package, yes, a copy of the application for citizenship you submitted will be needed.

On the final paragraph - according to the IRCC processing calculator a Work Permit takes 50 days so my thinking is that if we arrive November at worse my wife should have a work permit by end of Jan at the latest. Compared to the calculator saying it will take 12 months for an Outland application. Do you have any information/sources on the accuracy of these times? Or indeed any current information on actual processing times for other applicants?
Ignore the calculators. I believe inland spousal applicants here were taking ~4 months for the work permits before covid, recent experience more like seven months? Best to check the relevant threads here (If there is a 50 days it's probably some different process to get work permit with completely different eligibility)

Outland: the figure before covid was ~80% of apps were done in 12 months or less - some as little as six months. They seem to be catching up from the covid delays (but there is still a backlog). For more straightforward cases where no relatiosnhip doubts likely and countries where security/criminality easily done, many done quicker than the 12 months.

So up to you, but I find it hard to see that inland would be quicker. But who knows these days?
 
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Diplomat07

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Feb 14, 2020
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I got dm from one month still got nothing after that
Yea, I have noticed several other people who have received DM and have been waiting for PPR since one month or more. I will suggest raising a webform or reach out to your local MP for a query. Do you know which Visa office your file went to?
 
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Diplomat07

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Feb 14, 2020
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Hello Everyone!! Are application started processing February 2020 Outland Turkey spounser spouse status..
Medical and biometric are done September 2020 on Tools change both side decision made on March 25 -2021 What is next step ? thank you for answers... and also we got this e-mail..

We are currently processing your application for permanent residency. You now qualify to receive pre-arrival services to help you prepare for your new life in Canada. These services are only available to you before you enter Canada.
Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) funds settlement service provider organizations to deliver pre-arrival services at no cost to you. We strongly recommend that you use pre-arrival services. They can help you to:
• Prepare for your move to Canada and learn about living and working in Canada; • Get your education, work experience, and professional licenses and certificates
recognized in Canada;
• Connect with employers; and
• Connect with organizations that offer free settlement services, including
language training, after you arrive in Canada.
Explore the list of pre-arrival services available to you offered by the federal government or the provincial or territorial government of your destination: Canada.ca/pre-arrival-services
You will need to provide a copy of this letter when you register with the service providers listed on the IRCC website.
Join us on Facebook (www.facebook.com/CitCanada) and follow us on Twitter (www.twitter.com/CitImmCanada) for regular updates on immigration, settlement services and citizenship.
Sincerely,
Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada
IMM 5801E (01-2021)
After Decision Made, next step will be passport request. Just keep an eye on your email for that.
 

LeaAmbrose

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Feb 21, 2021
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Québec
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Accra, Ghana
App. Filed.......
14-01-2021
AOR Received.
25-02-2021
File Transfer...
26-03-2021
Med's Request
07-07-2021
Med's Done....
28-07-2021
Hello Everyone!! Are application started processing February 2020 Outland Turkey spounser spouse status..
Medical and biometric are done September 2020 on Tools change both side decision made on March 25 -2021 What is next step ? thank you for answers... and also we got this e-mail..

We are currently processing your application for permanent residency. You now qualify to receive pre-arrival services to help you prepare for your new life in Canada. These services are only available to you before you enter Canada.
Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) funds settlement service provider organizations to deliver pre-arrival services at no cost to you. We strongly recommend that you use pre-arrival services. They can help you to:
• Prepare for your move to Canada and learn about living and working in Canada; • Get your education, work experience, and professional licenses and certificates
recognized in Canada;
• Connect with employers; and
• Connect with organizations that offer free settlement services, including
language training, after you arrive in Canada.
Explore the list of pre-arrival services available to you offered by the federal government or the provincial or territorial government of your destination: Canada.ca/pre-arrival-services
You will need to provide a copy of this letter when you register with the service providers listed on the IRCC website.
Join us on Facebook (www.facebook.com/CitCanada) and follow us on Twitter (www.twitter.com/CitImmCanada) for regular updates on immigration, settlement services and citizenship.
Sincerely,
Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada
IMM 5801E (01-2021)
So is this the prearrival letter?
 
 

Rishavjeet

Star Member
Jul 21, 2020
99
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Yeah, this issue is prominent with Delhi Visa office. I have no idea on what basis they choose applications. Patience is the key here, you will get PPR soon. I would suggest checking your spam folder as well, just in case. Raise a webform asking about the application status. I hope you get PPR soon.
Thanku ..they took two long in my case in april 2019 applicant ..i will do that..you think it will take one more month or less
 
 

Diplomat07

Star Member
Feb 14, 2020
113
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Thanku ..they took two long in my case in april 2019 applicant ..i will do that..you think it will take one more month or less
It is hard to guess the time line. I am not sure what is the hold up if decision has been made on the file. I have seen people getting PPR on the same day as decision made and sometimes after 2 months as well. I will suggest, just follow up with them as I have also seen sometimes, PPR going to the wrong email address as well.
 
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