Should I apply for immigration - help required

[Sumitsbj]

Dear Friends,

I have been questioning myself on Immigrating to country like Canada recently. My wife and me are thinking to shift our base to other country along with our 2 year old daughter. I have spoken to various consultants and most of them have suggested me to apply. I am 37 years now and have a stable job in India. Prime reason would be better environment/health and quality of life ( of what I have seen and heard).

I understand that life would not be that easy as it seems initially, but I am quite sure that I am flexible enough to start from any level. I have 15 years work experience in Sales and marketing with some of the best global organisations like Pearson, Oracle and Microsoft. Can anyone suggest me on this decision ? It would be great help indeed. What are the initial challenges we might face when we land? I hope someone can talk basis his/her experience.

I guess the entire process would take me around 6-8 months time. Do I really need consultants or you would suggest me to self apply the process.

Thank you in advance.

Sumit


Regards
Sumit

 

[Bs65]

Start here http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/index.asp or directly here http://www.cic.gc.ca/ctc-vac/getting-started.as


See if you can find a match for your occupation here where you may find what is referred to as a NOC - national occupation classification which can be important through the immigration process when assessing your job role for skilled immigration http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/noc.asp

Read through the information behind these links and any other official ones you might find BEFORE formally engaging any consultants given many will take your money first so better to be fully prepared with knowledge.

 

[pocomonkey]

Dear Friends,

I have been questioning myself on Immigrating to country like Canada recently. My wife and me are thinking to shift our base to other country along with our 2 year old daughter. I have spoken to various consultants and most of them have suggested me to apply. I am 37 years now and have a stable job in India. Prime reason would be better environment/health and quality of life ( of what I have seen and heard).

I understand that life would not be that easy as it seems initially, but I am quite sure that I am flexible enough to start from any level. I have 15 years work experience in Sales and marketing with some of the best global organisations like Pearson, Oracle and Microsoft. Can anyone suggest me on this decision ? It would be great help indeed. What are the initial challenges we might face when we land? I hope someone can talk basis his/her experience.

I guess the entire process would take me around 6-8 months time. Do I really need consultants or you would suggest me to self apply the process.

Thank you in advance.

Sumit


Regards
Sumit

There are many other people on this forum who will be able to offer more helpful advice to you than I, and everyone has their own reasons for wanting to move to Canada, but I just wanted to say that it is likely the process will take far longer than 6-8 months -- depending on which ECA you use to validate any degrees you hold, this part of the process alone can take that long, and you will generally need the points from the ECA in order to create a robust (i.e. high scoring) EE profile. Once you receive an ITA (i.e. the points in the draw drop to your level, which could indeed happen quickly, depending on your points score), in theory you should receive a decision from Canadian immigration on your application within 6 months, but if you look at the various threads in this forum, it can take years in some cases to get that decision. Other people are fortunate, and have a green light sooner! My story is that, after 6 years of having no luck in applying for jobs in Canada from within the UK, I began the EE process in October 2015, and I hope I might be able to move before the end of this year, if all goes well. I am hoping for an ITA in the next draw. I have everything crossed, because I feel like I've been trying to make this dream happen for ages, but there are people on this forum who have been trying for much longer than me!

So, best case scenario, it could take less than a year, but please be prepared for it to take far longer. I think it's important you prepare yourself mentally for a longer time frame, because if you decide to go for immigration, you will need a strong resolve - it's a lot of work, and you will need patience and hope in abundance!

 

[vensak]

Dear Friends,

I have been questioning myself on Immigrating to country like Canada recently. My wife and me are thinking to shift our base to other country along with our 2 year old daughter. I have spoken to various consultants and most of them have suggested me to apply. I am 37 years now and have a stable job in India. Prime reason would be better environment/health and quality of life ( of what I have seen and heard).

I understand that life would not be that easy as it seems initially, but I am quite sure that I am flexible enough to start from any level. I have 15 years work experience in Sales and marketing with some of the best global organisations like Pearson, Oracle and Microsoft. Can anyone suggest me on this decision ? It would be great help indeed. What are the initial challenges we might face when we land? I hope someone can talk basis his/her experience.

I guess the entire process would take me around 6-8 months time. Do I really need consultants or you would suggest me to self apply the process.

Thank you in advance.

Sumit


Regards
Sumit

When it comes to the question, if it is worth to do the step, that could be answered more by people comming from similar surroundings. You will be restarting your career there (at least partly)

When it comes to apply directly or not. Unless you have no time for that or your background is not complicated, you can manage it by yourself. (check the links suggested above).

Now when it comes to timing, it will take most likely longer for you. The reason is simple. Your age will cost you 40 points. I did not see that you have any connection with Canada and neither you mentied that for your spouse. So those 40 points will put your score below 450 points (somewhere between 410 to 440 depending depending if you have both languages and what is your education and the education and language skill of your spouse).
With that your best shot will be provincial nomination. So that will increase waiting time (you will need PNP first and then you will be able to get ITA and follow the federal part.
Alternatively it is possible to go study in Canada and to get points for that and for the Canadian work after that. That way you will be able to go there faster, but you will be balancing next 2-3 years on temporary visa in order to get more points.
Last possibility is to find job offer directly in Canada or to get trasfer from your company. This possibility is most difficult and least probable to happen.

 

[jackdawn]

Dear Friends,

I have been questioning myself on Immigrating to country like Canada recently. My wife and me are thinking to shift our base to other country along with our 2 year old daughter. I have spoken to various consultants and most of them have suggested me to apply. I am 37 years now and have a stable job in India. Prime reason would be better environment/health and quality of life ( of what I have seen and heard).

I understand that life would not be that easy as it seems initially, but I am quite sure that I am flexible enough to start from any level. I have 15 years work experience in Sales and marketing with some of the best global organisations like Pearson, Oracle and Microsoft. Can anyone suggest me on this decision ? It would be great help indeed. What are the initial challenges we might face when we land? I hope someone can talk basis his/her experience.

I guess the entire process would take me around 6-8 months time. Do I really need consultants or you would suggest me to self apply the process.

Thank you in advance.

Sumit


Regards
Sumit

Well It is not discouraging though if u have enough credentials. Depends on what's ur education back ground and ur spouse's education back ground and the IELTS score. There are score calculators available and u can check through them. Nevertheless if u a have masters degree and if ur spouse has a masters (canadian equivalent) as well or if she has two or more post secondary credentials and if u max on ur IELTS score then u have a reasonable possibility. u cud score between 430-440. Check ur eligibility and NOC thourh d link posted above

 

[Bloodrose]

Well It is not discouraging though if u have enough credentials. Depends on what's ur education back ground and ur spouse's education back ground and the IELTS score. There are score calculators available and u can check through them. Nevertheless if u a have masters degree and if ur spouse has a masters (canadian equivalent) as well or if she has two or more post secondary credentials and if u max on ur IELTS score then u have a reasonable possibility. u cud score between 430-440. Check ur eligibility and NOC thourh d link posted above

Not necessarily true. My partner and I both have degrees and excellent English ability (it is my native language). I'm also younger than the OP and without counting my Canadian work experience, the CRS only gives us 413.

 

[vensak]

Not necessarily true. My partner and I both have degrees and excellent English ability (it is my native language). I'm also younger than the OP and without counting my Canadian work experience, the CRS only gives us 413.

And how many points do you have for the transferability. You can easily loose 25 points if you do not have education on the level Master or if you do not have 2 university degrees. You can loose further points for work experience depending how many years of foreign work experience and how many years of Canadian experience you have.

 

[Bloodrose]

And how many points do you have for the transferability. You can easily loose 25 points if you do not have education on the level Master or if you do not have 2 university degrees. You can loose further points for work experience depending how many years of foreign work experience and how many years of Canadian experience you have.

My situation is slightly unusual as I do have over 1 year of eligible Canadian work experience however that was several years ago and my current task is getting the required documentation to prove it. I was discussing that with a few other people on here in a thread that I started but unfortunately nobody seems to be replying to that thread now.

I do not have an MSc and very few people in my country of origin get more than undergraduate degree. In fact during my time in Canada I never met a single person who had done more than one undergraduate degree and I worked with some extremely well-educated and talented people from all over the world when I was there.

If I count my Canadian work experience then I get a total of 88 for transferability. If I do not count my Canadian work experience then it drops to 75 for transferability.

 

[vensak]

My situation is slightly unusual as I do have over 1 year of eligible Canadian work experience however that was several years ago and my current task is getting the required documentation to prove it. I was discussing that with a few other people on here in a thread that I started but unfortunately nobody seems to be replying to that thread now.

I do not have an MSc and very few people in my country of origin get more than undergraduate degree. In fact during my time in Canada I never met a single person who had done more than one undergraduate degree and I worked with some extremely well-educated and talented people from all over the world when I was there.

If I count my Canadian work experience then I get a total of 88 for transferability. If I do not count my Canadian work experience then it drops to 75 for transferability.

First part of FSW alone indicates that you have several years of work experience. If you have CBL 9+ with all 4 language skills, that should give you full 50 points for language and work experience.
You would be loosing 25 points for Education. But you could catch that up with points from Canadian experience.
As there are 4 ways how to get transferability points and the only limit is on max. 100 points from there.

You can use your Canadian work experience for CRS points as long as it is less than 10 years old. But then you will be clasified under FSW stream with the requirements for that stream.
If I remember correctly for Canadian work experience they also check that that work was legal (your visa), that is was not during Canadian studies and that you have paid taxes (hence the T4 request).

 

[Bloodrose]

First part of FSW alone indicates that you have several years of work experience. If you have CBL 9+ with all 4 language skills, that should give you full 50 points for language and work experience.
You would be loosing 25 points for Education. But you could catch that up with points from Canadian experience.
As there are 4 ways how to get transferability points and the only limit is on max. 100 points from there.

You can use your Canadian work experience for CRS points as long as it is less than 10 years old. But then you will be clasified under FSW stream with the requirements for that stream.
If I remember correctly for Canadian work experience they also check that that work was legal (your visa), that is was not during Canadian studies and that you have paid taxes (hence the T4 request).

My work experience in Canada was definitely legal. I had an OWP at the time and there was no question about that. I wouldn't have been able to get the kind of jobs that I had if I was attempting to work illegally. It was also much less than 10 years ago.

If you take a look at this thread, I have explained it in much greater detail and provided updates on the situation.

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/proving-canadian-work-experience-on-express-entry-application-t470390.0.html

Essentially according to the CRS calculator we are eligible for a potential 461 if my Canadian experience is taken into account however there are certain documents that people often refer to on here that I might not be able to obtain (namely the reference letters and 1 x RoE).

 

[figaro2]

HEllo
If you wanna make the step it s about time to start collecting documents like : diplome equivalances and language scoring tests! Once you have those you creat your EE.
ONTARIO let people wait a looooot and sometimes not that much.
So once in the pool insuggest you looking also at other provinces that are quick.
As you are working in multinationals i advice you to ask them for a job in canada even if it s less in the salary and the position . IT svery importsnt for your life after

 

[vensak]

My work experience in Canada was definitely legal. I had an OWP at the time and there was no question about that. I wouldn't have been able to get the kind of jobs that I had if I was attempting to work illegally. It was also much less than 10 years ago.

If you take a look at this thread, I have explained it in much greater detail and provided updates on the situation.

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/proving-canadian-work-experience-on-express-entry-application-t470390.0.html

Essentially according to the CRS calculator we are eligible for a potential 461 if my Canadian experience is taken into account however there are certain documents that people often refer to on here that I might not be able to obtain (namely the reference letters and 1 x RoE).

That does not look good for you. The biggest problem I see there is the missing taxes for that 1 month of work period. If that was international work experience, that would not be issue. However for Canadian that might be a problem. Thing is that at the end of the day you are the one filling your tax applications. So that 1 month can be risky (they might not accept it as valid job experience).

But what that all can give you is access to a PNP program (some provinces do require connection to that province and an old work experience is such connection).

 

[Bloodrose]

That does not look good for you. The biggest problem I see there is the missing taxes for that 1 month of work period. If that was international work experience, that would not be issue. However for Canadian that might be a problem. Thing is that at the end of the day you are the one filling your tax applications. So that 1 month can be risky (they might not accept it as valid job experience).

But what that all can give you is access to a PNP program (some provinces do require connection to that province and an old work experience is such connection).

The taxes shouldn't be missing. They filed a T4 for me and the CRA are sending a copy of that over to me in the mail. It seems they just didn't file an RoE when I left for some reason though. It is my understanding that under normal circumstances an RoE is only really a problem if you are trying to claim EI off the back of that employment.

 

[vensak]

The taxes shouldn't be missing. They filed a T4 for me and the CRA are sending a copy of that over to me in the mail. It seems they just didn't file an RoE when I left for some reason though. It is my understanding that under normal circumstances an RoE is only really a problem if you are trying to claim EI off the back of that employment.

Then RoE should not be problem (if I understand that that would be request for partial tax refund to you). They only care for the job legality (which it was) and that taxes were paid.
There is other important point there. In order to cash it as 1 work experience it has to be valid under 1 NOC code.
Again I might not be correct here.

 

[Bloodrose]

Then RoE should not be problem (if I understand that that would be request for partial tax refund to you). They only care for the job legality (which it was) and that taxes were paid.
There is other important point there. In order to cash it as 1 work experience it has to be valid under 1 NOC code.
Again I might not be correct here.

No that is a good point. The second job was more advanced and more highly paid than the first however I am fairly confident that they would sit within the same NOC code.

I didn't file a tax return within my first year in Canada as I only started working in the February and the tax year obviously ends in April. I did file a tax return for my second year and received a refund however my first job wasn't included on that tax return because I hadn't worked there within the first tax year.

If I understand correctly, because of the type of visa/WP I was on there was no legal requirement for me to complete a tax return although I was eligible to do so at my own discretion and did in my second year because I was in a full-time and relatively highly paid job.