Rejection Please Help, Advice.

[linksalman]

Gentlemen,

Please answer me my million dollar Question..

IS Marriage certificate acceptable instead of Birth certificate?

My case history is mentioned below

Dear Senior Members,

i am very worried after reading jignesh patel's case.

i have also availed points for my relation ship. relation ship is my Wife's uncle.

for that i did not submitted My wife's mother's birth certificate and My wife's uncles birth certificate...

inspite of this i submitted Notorized copy and english translation of My wife's mother Marriage certificate and my wife's uncle marriage certificate.

both marriage certificate showed common parents.

Please let me know if this will be accepted. i applied on 4th may and i got my PER on 9th june.

Please help.

 

[Kanamen]

Gentlemen,

Please answer me my million dollar Question..

IS Marriage certificate acceptable instead of Birth certificate?

My case history is mentioned below

Dear Senior Members,

i am very worried after reading jignesh patel's case.

i have also availed points for my relation ship. relation ship is my Wife's uncle.

for that i did not submitted My wife's mother's birth certificate and My wife's uncles birth certificate...

inspite of this i submitted Notorized copy and english translation of My wife's mother Marriage certificate and my wife's uncle marriage certificate.

both marriage certificate showed common parents.

Please let me know if this will be accepted. i applied on 4th may and i got my PER on 9th june.

Please help.

If you can provide more evidence to prove relationship ,better do it now

 

[jigneshpatel1987]

If you can provide more evidence to prove relationship ,better do it now

Finally i have gathered all the documents need for an appeal.
Tommorow i will post them to CANADA....

Pedigree, Credit card statement from Aunt in Canada, my mom's and my aunt's marriage certi, my aunt's old Indian passport and my mom's that will show their both mother and father same... and other documents like tax, utility from Canada...

Thanks for all your support..

 

[lubob]

Finally i have gathered all the documents need for an appeal.
Tommorow i will post them to CANADA....

Pedigree, Credit card statement from Aunt in Canada, my mom's and my aunt's marriage certi, my aunt's old Indian passport and my mom's that will show their both mother and father same... and other documents like tax, utility from Canada...

Thanks for all your support..

My dear friend ! i m so sorry for ur refusal. i would like to emphasise on another document which everyone has forgot to mention. just ask ur aunt to get a self declaration stating relationship with your PA and get it notarised from canada. i hope it will make some what stronger in your appeal for reconsideration. regards n wish u all the best for ur appeal.

 

[info-gc]

Sorry to hear that.

An appeal is highly unlikely to succeed but you can re-apply.
The letter they sent you technically means they have closed your file, and from what I have heard, they do not want to reopen old files.

 

[jigneshpatel1987]

Sorry to hear that.

An appeal is highly unlikely to succeed but you can re-apply.
The letter they sent you technically means they have closed your file, and from what I have heard, they do not want to reopen old files.

how can we come to know that the file is closed??
is there any sign that shows they have closed my file..

 

[Cappuccino]

Finally i have gathered all the documents need for an appeal.
Tommorow i will post them to CANADA....

Pedigree, Credit card statement from Aunt in Canada, my mom's and my aunt's marriage certi, my aunt's old Indian passport and my mom's that will show their both mother and father same... and other documents like tax, utility from Canada...

Thanks for all your support..

Hi - I am confused, I thought your application was refused at the visa office? If so, why are you sending these to Canada? Should you not be sending this to New Delhi VO? What you're asking for isn't a formal appeal (that's a big long drawn out legal process) - but a reconsideration. Otherwise known as a "mercy plea" - so this should be going to the immigration officer at VO who sent you the rejection letter.

Wayne.

 

[jigneshpatel1987]

Hi - I am confused, I thought your application was refused at the visa office? If so, why are you sending these to Canada? Should you not be sending this to New Delhi VO? What you're asking for isn't a formal appeal (that's a big long drawn out legal process) - but a reconsideration. Otherwise known as a "mercy plea" - so this should be going to the immigration officer at VO who sent you the rejection letter.

Wayne.

Sorry i have sent the documents to Canada, NS for Review, my mistake its not an appeal.
I asked to review the application as i have already provided the Documents that proves the relation ship of my aunt and my mom but i think the IMO has nor reviewed it proparly when he was assesing my application.
What do you think???

 

[new_2_canada]

As others had advised you can ask the CIO to go for DNA testing,
This is also mentioned in OP1 which is Procedure details.

5.9. DNA test for relationship
Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) accepts DNA test results as proof of parent/child and
sibling relationships. The test compares DNA profiles extracted from genetic material taken from
persons claiming to be father, mother, children or siblings.
5.10. When is a DNA test appropriate?
A DNA test to prove relationship is a last resort. When documentary submissions are not
satisfactory evidence of a bona fide relationship, officers may advise applicants that positive
results of DNA tests by a laboratory listed in Appendix E are an acceptable substitute for
documents.
5.11. DNA results
In a standard, direct paternity or maternity test involving an alleged parent/child relationship, the
DNA companies listed in Appendix E are to provide test results that are at least 99.8% certain.
Paternity test results below this level are not acceptable.
If a DNA test result is presented as evidence of a relationship, officers must ensure the integrity of
the testing procedure. As this test is offered in cases in which there are already doubts about
claimed relationships, any possibility of fraud must be eliminated.
For more information, see:
• DNA tests, section 13;
• Procedures for DNA testing, section 14.

The link for OP1 is below if you want to go through the complete Operation manual and read OP6 as well.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op01-eng.pdf
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op06-eng.pdf

 

[mwansaa]

Jignesh, have you submitted birth certificates for the sisters' showing that they have the same parents. This seems to be the best proof and CIC may value Birth certs. more than marriage certs.

 

[jigneshpatel1987]

Jignesh, have you submitted birth certificates for the sisters' showing that they have the same parents. This seems to be the best proof and CIC may value Birth certs. more than marriage certs.

Yes i have submited the birth certificate of my mother and my aunt.
the thing is in our indian culture the name changes at the end by bhai,kumar,lal etc.

In my mother's certi the name of her father is Jitubhai, but in my aunt's certi the name is Jitendrabhai...
But i have submitted the affidavit by court saying that these two person are same as the names are differnt as the social purpose...

Lets see what happen now??

 

[mwansaa]

Yes i have submited the birth certificate of my mother and my aunt.
the thing is in our indian culture the name changes at the end by bhai,kumar,lal etc.

In my mother's certi the name of her father is Jitubhai, but in my aunt's certi the name is Jitendrabhai...
But i have submitted the affidavit by court saying that these two person are same as the names are differnt as the social purpose...

Lets see what happen now??

CIC would just go by the names as they see it... they probably have no idea about the indian culture. i'm sure you have written a well explained cover letter. It is good that you are retorting to their rejection ... you don't want to regret not trying to fight the rejection... but think about reapplying in case they take a while to respond.

 

[immigration1]

jignesh very SAD.
I submitted documents that one person same parents name upto 2 generation from my village , that person in Canada, I submitted all papers like birth certy, his citizenship proof and copy of canadian passport, my father birthcertificate, passport CIO / CHC just match names, nothing more and my case is In-process. I got 2nd AOR everything going smooth, even I already shared complete information before in my post when I start getting this document that mentioned my father and person in canada both are real brother but not (just same parents name , even the person in canada her mother name is not registered anywhere in the India he just write down his mothername and got effedivite from Indian consulat toronto, when this guy move illegle to canada that time Canadian authority dont ask any document so no history found about his mother name.

you can read my post:http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/-t63693.0.html

Prashant

 

[Cappuccino]

Sorry i have sent the documents to Canada, NS for Review, my mistake its not an appeal.
I asked to review the application as i have already provided the Documents that proves the relation ship of my aunt and my mom but i think the IMO has nor reviewed it proparly when he was assesing my application.
What do you think???

Hmm - the point is that CIO in Nova Scotia gave you a positive eligibility review, but it was New Delhi visa office and the immigration officer there which rejected your application, is that right?

That being the case IMO you are much better sending the documents to the visa office for the attention of the immigration officer reviewing your case. CIO will probably just say "nothing to do with us, please contact the visa office"?

Wayne.

 

[jigneshpatel1987]

Hmm - the point is that CIO in Nova Scotia gave you a positive eligibility review, but it was New Delhi visa office and the immigration officer there which rejected your application, is that right?

That being the case IMO you are much better sending the documents to the visa office for the attention of the immigration officer reviewing your case. CIO will probably just say "nothing to do with us, please contact the visa office"?

Wayne.

when i received the letter, the address from on the top of the letter was from Nova Scotia one.
So i think after having review they have rejected the app itself to the nova scotia... In canada only ...

Am i right???