Rejection after second AOR. Discuss

[sam_172452]

Best of luck @Scorpiano.

Bumping this up again to see if anyone with a 2nd AOR has received a rejection?

 

[snkarora]

Best of luck @ Scorpiano.

Bumping this up again to see if anyone with a 2nd AOR has received a rejection?

Bumping the thread again.

 

[chefdada]

My application got canceled last July 8 but I didnt reviewed the 2nd AOR


Has anybody noticed a case where the application was cancelled after getting the second AOR? Does receiving the second AOR makes it any more certain that you will receive the PR?

 

[snkarora]

My application got canceled last July 8 but I didnt reviewed the 2nd AOR


Has anybody noticed a case where the application was cancelled after getting the second AOR? Does receiving the second AOR makes it any more certain that you will receive the PR?

Dear Chefdada,

The language in second aor suggests that the application is complete and background check and other processes will now start. It does mean that you have crossed a hurdle but not all.
Can you let us know why was your app cancelled?

 

[chefdada]

I got an email saying that my application got cancelled due to my ECA is not acceptable But i did all my college credencial assess by WES. I don't make sense why they refuse my application

 

[drnj]

hello all ,
I have applied in 2014 july ,approved in oct but now suddenly after the long silence email me that they refuse my application that my job duties not enough mentioned ..I applied as a university lecturer .it was ashocking news..asked the notes it will take time than I will appeal but can we ask their notes in middle of any time or not???should I have ask them the notes so I wuld know that they have some issue on duties ???or I cant enter in between processing time ?im worried now ..not expecting this..strong case I had.

 

[sam_172452]

I got an email saying that my application got cancelled due to my ECA is not acceptable But i did all my college credencial assess by WES. I don't make sense why they refuse my application

Did you have a typo in the eca code when you transmitted it to cic?

Did you receive a second AOR before the rejection ?

 

[snkarora]

I got an email saying that my application got cancelled due to my ECA is not acceptable But i did all my college credencial assess by WES. I don't make sense why they refuse my application

any of these is possible
1. if you are claiming more points than what WES qualified you for
2. there was a typo in WES code
3. ECA is more than 5 years old

You should raise a CSE and request GCMS notes. Did you do any of these?

 

[snkarora]

hello all ,
I have applied in 2014 july ,approved in oct but now suddenly after the long silence email me that they refuse my application that my job duties not enough mentioned ..I applied as a university lecturer .it was ashocking news..asked the notes it will take time than I will appeal but can we ask their notes in middle of any time or not???should I have ask them the notes so I wuld know that they have some issue on duties ???or I cant enter in between processing time ?im worried now ..not expecting this..strong case I had.

Dear Drnj,

It has happened to the best applications. I would suggest that you don't waste any time contemplating and straight away talk to the lawyers of this site. If you believe you have a strong case, then go all guns blazing. BTW, you can go ahead and request the GCMS notes

 

[drnj]

Dear Drnj,

It has happened to the best applications. I would suggest that you don't waste any time contemplating and straight away talk to the lawyers of this site. If you believe you have a strong case, then go all guns blazing. BTW, you can go ahead and request the GCMS notes

Yes you are right i already asked for notes ,and i hv my consultant too .but my junior refused application than why ther senior vl listen my appeal on govt department ground i hv hear they refuse it too .

 

[sam_172452]

While digging through the FSW 2014 threads I have stumbled upon this which is a description of what the background check process entails once it starts. Would love to hear everyone's opinion on this:

Background & Security Checks

Note: Our Background Check comprises of 2 parts:
1. The Standard Documentation Checks,
2. The Security & Criminality Checks.

Standard Documentation Checks:
Our background check is done at the CHC stage. It commences the moment our file gets the 1st BFD by the VO. An indicator of which is the e-CAS that shows "In Progress". All docs been checked & our NOC being tallied against the MI, if the VO finds our case 'eligible' for Canadian PR, the file becomes 'Accepted'; and then it goes for standard background checks, viz. Exp, Quals, Adaptability, Qualitative Considerations etc.

The process involves many things. If our case file is well presented and the enclosures vouch the quality-quantity, adequate POF docs etc., there might not be a requirement of 'actually' calling the employers, references etc. The VOs have a way with that, they are experienced enough to ascertain the logical disposition of our case. But, if there are any concerns of his/her, s/he is likely to ask for additional docs, do further scrutiny vide any means [calling, visiting etc.] & might ask for an Interview.

-Culmination: When 'fully' satisfied, we get the 'Medical Request'.
-Timeframe: Can be anything around 3-8* months, for the 'fast track' system (Avg. 4-5 months).
-eCAS: Continues to Show 'In Process'.
*The older system has a queue, thus can be longer.

Security & Criminality Checks:
A part of the b/ground checks is the 'Security Check'. It commences after our med results are submitted to the CHC. This is a major activity -mainly concerning our 'safe inclusion' into the Canadian Soil; vis-a-vis, Political, Socio-Econmical, Anti-Social disposition, perceived Threat to Canada's integrity etc. This gets us the SDEC, CDEC & SECCRIM.

This is a serious & time-consuming stage, involving many agencies, including CSIS, Interpol, NASC, Database Checking & touch-base with Local Police. Many things are considered here... the No. of countries visited, Applicant coming from 'certain' countries, ex-Servicemen [including Law Enforcement services], Prolonged stay in a country w/out sufficient docs to prove cause, frequent traveling to certain nations, your *Name (?), Inter-Religion/Nationality Marriages etc.

If everything is simple & straight, the file soon gets into the 'final review' stage. If there are any 'red flags', our case goes into a 'spin'. Then our file might go to the local Police/CID agencies; the outcome/timeframe of which is beyond the control of CIC. And thereby the timeframe can be anything [sometimes beyond 1yr]. But, usually this stage should be over by 5 months max. However, a point to be noted is that we can also be called for an Interview [at this stage], due to this reason.

-Culmination: Only upon security clearance we receive the PPR.
-Timeframe: Around 2-6 months. Avg. 3 months. [With new system, sometimes PPR is clubbed with Meds]
-eCAS: Still 'In Process', but 'Med Results Recd.' inside.

*Yes, that's how a certain Mr. Sharukh Khan was detained for 4.5 hrs in an US port. He was a VIP, thus 4.5 hrs. For u & me -things could be different.
...
The Process in a Nutshell:

Stage-1: [CIO stage] Send Initial Apps+Processing Fees to CIO-NS > Qualitative Check > Issue of AOR+120 days Letter >

Stage-2: [CHC stage onwards] Send Full Docs+RPRF to the Local Visa Office > File on Queue > e-Cas: "Received by Visa Office" > Eligibility Check+PSDEC > Issue of 2nd AOR > Background Check > Issue of Additional docs Request [if any] > 1st BF'D > e-Cas: "In Process" > Send Addnl. Docs > Issue of Med Request > 2nd BF'D >

Stage-3: Meds Sent > e-Cas: "Medical Results Recd." > Issue of PPR* > Send Passport/s > Security Check > Visa/s Stamped > e-Cas: "Decision Made" >
*The Meds & PPR are sometimes 'clubbed' together.

Stage-4: Return of 'Stamped' Passport/s+COPR > Landing at the POE > e-Cas: "Completed".
...

Qorax

 

[snkarora]

Yes you are right i already asked for notes ,and i hv my consultant too .but my junior refused application than why ther senior vl listen my appeal on govt department ground i hv hear they refuse it too .

During 2014, I was searching on the net for rejected cases for FSW Canada. I went through a lot of cases and I saw the decision reversed in atleast 15-20% of the cases. Unless there is a big hole in your application or you have lied, I suggest you move ahead with confidence. There is a reasonable chance.

 

[KaydenB]

While digging through the FSW 2014 threads I have stumbled upon this which is a description of what the background check process entails once it starts. Would love to hear everyone's opinion on this:

Very interesting, thanks a LOT for sharing Even though old, it gives a clearer idea of how cases may be processed

 

[snkarora]

Very interesting, thanks a LOT for sharing Even though old, it gives a clearer idea of how cases may be processed

Yup.. Interseting

 

[Indiansailor]

Dear seniors

My wife is principal applicant
i m in merchant navy and i have to join ship this month
i have already taken police clearance
What about the medical test
can you go for upfront medical without receiving aor
when we have to do the medicals
please help