malican said:
Hi Fkl - thanks for info. To clarify - what I am wondering is -
1) Does CIC judge your application based on the info there at the point of receiving an ITA or at the point of your submitting the application? I ask this because I saw another NOC code that my job description could possibly fall under (from a 0 to a 1). So I am wondering if I do not change it now and change it at the time of submitting the app could it jeopardize my submission to CIC?
2) If I do not change it now (awaiting OINP nomination) could that be misrepresentation? I saw in previous posts where applicants put one NOC and was disqualified because CIC thought it was different. Although in my case I see based on the job descriptions I believe it can be used interchangeably as they are close - I just feel like putting the lower NOC to be safe (this is a 1 year job btw, before this I had an 11 year job).
3) How do they judge a 1 year job? Does that count?
Your thoughts? Let me know if I need to clear up. Thank you!
You are most welcome.
1. CIC judges application at the point of submission (though assuming you didn't loose any points from ITA). E.g. you scored 475 (hopythetically) and got ITA. At submission time, some thing changed e.g. you lost 50 points due to marriage before submission and the cut off for that draw was more than (475-50=425). Changing NOC hopefully shouldn't be a big deal as long as you provide proper evidence to support that. Besides, they haven't evaluated your NOC while issuing ITA. Though if this was my case, i would submit a letter explaining this along with evidence.
2. Not entirely clear - Do you expect nomination to be for the same NOC as you originally intended on applying for? Yes obviously CIC can refuse if they think the NOC is different. But you have to have picked the closest matching NOC in the first place. Besides CIC doesn't really care about minor difference e.g. i am a software engineer. When i got my first work permit to come to Canada, my NOC was 2174 (Software developer). But in second one as well as in my PR application, it was 2173 (Software engineer). I have friends with exactly same job profile (same position / employer) with NOC 2171 (information system consultants) and having gotten through.
Mainly you should meet a) Duties / responsibilities b) Possess the core education / experience required c) Your income should be at least around median wage for that NOC for that province.
Also do you mean that the ONE year experience you have is of the lower NOC that you intend to switch to now? Instead of the original job that you previously intended to apply with (and have 11 years experience in?).
The longer experience is generally better. Because depending upon which PR program you are applying for, CIC would evaluate jobs differently. Let's say they have any doubts / concerns about that 1 year experience. In that case it could simply invalidate your application. But there is little chance for that for an 11 year profile. Even if there are multiple jobs, even one legitimate one should be enough to get through basic profile requirements.
3. The requirement for one year job is pretty clearly written. One year full time (at least 30+ hours) or equivalent number of hours part time. Your experience letter - if outside of Canada should mention a list of things including title, position, responsibilities, time frames etc.
You can often submit additional docs for that too e.g. if experience letter does not state salary, you can provide pay stubs etc. Of course we are talking about outside of Canada experience. Inside Canada, they have a different mechanism to go more deeper in experience and taxes.
