Reasons for Rejection

[fkl]

Hey guys I have come across a definition about the "Primary Occupation" in FAQ about EE that freaked me out. It says I am quoting: "Your primary occupation means the job you have experience in (within the last five years) and want to base your immigration application on, if you are invited to apply."

So, here's the case. My experience is based on two NOC codes the first one is from 2005-2011 and the second one is from 2013 up to date. So, when I created my EE profile I chose the first NOC occcupation as primary because of its duration (2005-2011) to gain more points but obviously it does not fit into the last five years except for the end of it. So will this cause to a rejection? I have never seen this requirement before because everywhere including the Federal Skilled Worker it said within last 10 years. I am so confused please advise.

No Idea - that's a tough call. Generally when CIC puts misleading info at two official places - I am afraid it turns out to be the lesser of the two.

This is what I have seen with other scenarios e.g. CIC says submit history since the age of 18 or last ten years which ever is recent. However, almost every one who submitted last 10 (and was older than 28) usually received Schedule A's to submit details. Hence some people concluded they should always submit since the age of 18 no matter how old you are.

You can only wait and see... I am sorry but there is no other way to tell.

Though i would say FAQ is less of a formal place than the official FSW requirements page. But you should research more detailed specs of FSW requirements. If you don't find this 5 year thing any where your case might fly.

 

[JK_CAD]

Hey guys I have come across a definition about the "Primary Occupation" in FAQ about EE that freaked me out. It says I am quoting: "Your primary occupation means the job you have experience in (within the last five years) and want to base your immigration application on, if you are invited to apply."

So, here's the case. My experience is based on two NOC codes the first one is from 2005-2011 and the second one is from 2013 up to date. So, when I created my EE profile I chose the first NOC occcupation as primary because of its duration (2005-2011) to gain more points but obviously it does not fit into the last five years except for the end of it. So will this cause to a rejection? I have never seen this requirement before because everywhere including the Federal Skilled Worker it said within last 10 years. I am so confused please advise.

I would suggest to use the NOC code of current job position/description.

 

[Doda]

That's the case that I couldn't find such information about 5 years anywhere, only in FAQ. Secondly, FSW clearly mentions that the experience must be in last 10 years, never 5. And moreover, when we fill out the application, we mention all the experience chronologically, so isn't it logical that if I were ineligible for EE I would get ineligible notice after submitting it in the end? Why would the system find my application eligible for a certain program? Please tell me this, if the e-apr is being assessed for eligibility criteria, it is assessed against a certain program (FSW in this case), isn't it? I mean not the EE itself

I don't know if this a new thing in 2016 or not, but when I applied last Sept. I only provided the work accumulated from 2005 to 2009 and nothing more. Was accepted with no problems.

 

[fkl]

That's the case that I couldn't find such information about 5 years anywhere, only in FAQ. Secondly, FSW clearly mentions that the experience must be in last 10 years, never 5. And moreover, when we fill out the application, we mention all the experience chronologically, so isn't it logical that if I were ineligible for EE I would get ineligible notice after submitting it in the end? Why would the system find my application eligible for a certain program? Please tell me this, if the e-apr is being assessed for eligibility criteria, it is assessed against a certain program (FSW in this case), isn't it? I mean not the EE itself

What you say makes sense. Though we do not know how much actual checks the system does on automatic assessment of applications for eligible / ineligible.

Also after Doda's following message, I am quite hopeful the 5 year thing is wrong. But obviously you will only know for sure once its through.

 

[fabricland]

Guys. My experience falls under noc 2232, mechanical engineering, but my education is in other field. Though I can prove this experience through ref letters but then what are the chances of acceptence/rejection in this case. M planning to apply under sinp oid. Thanks in advance.

 

[johnny123]

Guys. My experience falls under noc 2232, mechanical engineering, but my education is in other field. Though I can prove this experience through ref letters but then what are the chances of acceptence/rejection in this case. M planning to apply under sinp oid. Thanks in advance.

This is what CEC site states:
"The “Employment Requirements” listed in the NOC occupational description are not applicable."
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/tools/perm/econ/cec/work.asp

 

[singh_maninder]

Is there any cases that PR got rejected after 90 days for Province Nomination Programs ?
If yes, what could be the possible reasons for the rejection ?

 

[GoHaPPyCaN]

I have been rejected because of missing documents, ECA not provided (it was my mistake).

ITA : December 4th 2015
AOR : December 18th 2015
Refusal : January 6th 2016

 

[GARJ]

Hi folks, was wondering if there was an estimate of the average time between AOR and possible rejection due to missing documents.

 

[alex_dinou]

Hi folks, was wondering if there was an estimate of the average time between AOR and possible rejection due to missing documents.

The latest I've seen is two months for incomplete applications (missing documents).

 

[wenfeizh]

Sorry if I am posting at the wrong place but I dont want to create a new thread for the question I have:


If i have a Canadian Master degree and a foreign Bachelor degree, will I be rejected as incomplete application if I dont upload anything for my foreign Bachelor degree (NO ECA)?


(PS: I have both degree certificate and transcripts for my Canadian Master degree)

 

[Ertugru]

Hi Friends !

My background has been changed from not needed to "In Progress" is there any chance for rejection? Anyone that faced rejection when background check is "In Progress" please share your experience.

Thanks.

 

[GoHaPPyCaN]

Sorry if I am posting at the wrong place but I dont want to create a new thread for the question I have:


If i have a Canadian Master degree and a foreign Bachelor degree, will I be rejected as incomplete application if I dont upload anything for my foreign Bachelor degree (NO ECA)?


(PS: I have both degree certificate and transcripts for my Canadian Master degree)

Hi, it all depends if you claimed points for your foreign Bachelor degree. If not, you should be good.
For example, I have 2 foreign Masters but I didn't obtain any additional points for one of them, so there was no need to do an ECA for both of the degrees. Though, I still uploaded the 2 Master Degree with a LoE mentioning why there is ECA for only one degree.
I hope I'm clear (English is not my mothertongue)

 

[GoHaPPyCaN]

Hi Friends !

My background has been changed from not needed to "In Progress" is there any chance for rejection? Anyone that faced rejection when background check is "In Progress" please share your experience.

Thanks.

Hi Ertugru,

I'd say there is a risk to be rejected at any stage, but more time goes by, less are the risks. Hope for the best !

 

[wenfeizh]

Hi, it all depends if you claimed points for your foreign Bachelor degree. If not, you should be good.
For example, I have 2 foreign Masters but I didn't obtain any additional points for one of them, so there was no need to do an ECA for both of the degrees. Though, I still uploaded the 2 Master Degree with a LoE mentioning why there is ECA for only one degree.
I hope I'm clear (English is not my mothertongue)

Thanks for your reply!

How do I know if I claimed points for my foreign Bachelor or not? When I created my EE profile, I put down both my Canadian master degree and my foreign bachelor, and I said "NO" to ECA in Education History. I believe the points I got are for my Masters.