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nns14

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26-09-2019
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26-09-2019
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Draw for majority of people who have spent money on education in Canada and worked for a year or more. Yup clear favoritism it seems
You already get points for that. You get points for both education and job experience.

Anyways, IRCC is doing this to manage the pandemic as they know FSW cannot come due to travel restriction. It has nothing to do with favoritism.
 

upon

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The 40K-50K ITA target for 2021 is not true. Please check historical number of ITAs given for 2018, 2019, and even 2020. In 2020, despite the pandemic, they issued 107,350 ITAs. For this year, they have so far issued 38K ITAs while emptying the CEC and PNP from the pool. The only remaining classes are FSW and FST (extremely low). There's still 70K ITAs remaining with no CEC in the pool. Of course, CEC will join as before (although I expect some increase in CEC because many will create profiles despite very low CRS), but will 60K CEC join for the next 9 months?? I extremely doubt.


How?
They have a huge backlog from 2020. Those inlands from 2020 gonna be landed in 2021 + all inlands from today’s draw = target is met.

I am sure they will have more draws during this year. Taking every CEC and PNP regardless of the CRS score.
But it is unclear about the draws for FSW. They still have lots of people Outland who have expired coprs or waiting for a decision-both of those groups can’t travel to Canada and it is impossible to predict when they will be allowed to travel. It can be few months or few years. No one knows.
 

jchen2020

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The 40K-50K ITA target for 2021 is not true. Please check historical number of ITAs given for 2018, 2019, and even 2020. In 2020, despite the pandemic, they issued 107,350 ITAs. For this year, they have so far issued 38K ITAs while emptying the CEC and PNP from the pool. The only remaining classes are FSW and FST (extremely low). There's still 70K ITAs remaining with no CEC in the pool. Of course, CEC will join as before (although I expect some increase in CEC because many will create profiles despite very low CRS), but will 60K CEC join for the next 9 months?? I extremely doubt.


How?
i am not expert on this but guess people are assuming a certain percentage of the CEC will invite their close families as well - there is a lot of unknown on that number for sure.
 

seadrag0n

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They have a huge backlog from 2020. Those inlands from 2020 gonna be landed in 2021 + all inlands from today’s draw = target is met.

I am sure they will have more draws during this year. Taking every CEC and PNP regardless of the CRS score.
But it is unclear about the draws for FSW. They still have lots of people Outland who have expired coprs or waiting for a decision-both of those groups can’t travel to Canada and it is impossible to predict when they will be allowed to travel. It can be few months or few years. No one knows.
My bet is on few years for travel to resume.
 

guelphite

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You already get points for that. You get points for both education and job experience.

Anyways, IRCC is doing this to manage the pandemic as they know FSW cannot come due to travel restriction. It has nothing to do with favoritism.
also, they just made about 20k people who thought they had no chance at all and would have to leave the country one day very happy... it is hard to be upset at IRCC for this
 

huyypeter

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it’s also hard to imagine who’d be at score 75. Even a 60 year old person who wants to imigrate with his family and has no education and ielts band of 5 will have more score.
Thats what i meant, this stream is a skilled worker stream, and they just took some one with crs of 75, and there are even more ppl with that score after september 12.
Literally they are above 45, finished secondary school, 1 year exp in canada, ielts 6555. Thats it? Compare to graduated international students or foreign workers its a huge huge gap. They should set the cut off higher to keep the quality
 
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Igethope

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Now the CEC guys that have not entered the pool will now enter in drones. All they need is 75. They might do another one soon. Scary time !
 
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FurioGiunta

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My bet is on few years for travel to resume.
Very hard disagree. How about a dose of optimism for FSW? Here goes..

In spite of the recent supply chain issues with vaccines, Canada is on track to vaccinate their population by September 2021. And note that this is just using Pfizer and Moderna both of which are known to work very well even against the scary new variants. By end of Q1 (i.e April 2021), they will have vaccinated (using both doses) their most vulnerable population, which means in the summer we will see deaths, hospitalizations, and even cases plummeting! We are already seeing deaths/hospitalizations/cases decreasing across North America. In fact, the US is on track to getting back to normal by Summer. This means that we will start seeing widespread rollback of restrictions starting this Summer. Of course, reopening borders will be last on their list, but it is definitely going to happen this year. They will probably start with reopening borders to the US sometime in the summer with some kind of proof of vaccination necessary to travel, since the vast majority of the US populace will be vaccinated by that time. Then they will probably start a staggered reopening for immigrants, since lots of outlanders have been waiting since October 2019. They would probably require a proof of vaccination, or offer to vaccinate you on landing, with some quarantine requirements (Note that Canada has ordered the highest amount of vaccines per capita in the world, so there will be no shortage of vaccines to vaccinate new immigrants by the time they open up). I am very optimistic that outlanders will start landing in Canada in the last quarter of 2021. People like me (FSW-O, AOR September 2020) might have to wait until early 2022, but I am still very hopeful about spending my Christmas 2021 in the beautiful city of Montreal gorging on poutine while covered in three layers of clothing to keep myself warm. We have great vaccines and the general population is starting to get real tired of lockdowns; once the vulnerable are vaccinated it won't be politically feasible to continue with strong restrictions.

My heart goes out to the FSW applicants in the pool, especially those who worked very hard to get to a competitive score and are going to lose points due to age. FSW draws are going to be unlikely in the next few months. But I'm confident they will start having FSW draws in the summer. Hang in there!
 

nns14

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App. Filed.......
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26-09-2019
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They have a huge backlog from 2020. Those inlands from 2020 gonna be landed in 2021 + all inlands from today’s draw = target is met.
That's a good point, but that would mean they will not meet 2022 target even if FSW is invited. In reality, the target is based on the number of landed PR applicants; therefore, if all 2021 landed PRs are based on 2020 and 2019 backlog along with 2021 ITAs then there will be very few 2022 landings, because remember average processing (before pandemic) is over 6 months. So, only the first quarter ITA receivers will be able to land in 2022 considering the processing times prior to the pandemic.
 

yay_321

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I would hate to get into the CEC vs FSW debate. But all these people worrying about "it is bad for Canada's future".

May I please request you to fix your country's future first? before worrying about some foreign country. :D

My heart goes to people who are loosing points because of age. Pandemic is to blame NOT cec candidates who are working for their scores just like you.

Anyway not gonna indulge into this discussion anymore.
 

nns14

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Feb 10, 2018
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Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Nairobi, Kenya
NOC Code......
2147
App. Filed.......
26-09-2019
AOR Received.
26-09-2019
File Transfer...
24-10-2019
Passport Req..
18-Jul-2022
VISA ISSUED...
05-Aug-2022
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11-Jan-2023
they already make you pay $2000 upon arrival and quarantine for 2 weeks. I don't understand the travel restrictions.
I thought if they introduced mandatory quarantine in controlled facilities then they would remove the March 18 rule for economic outland applicants. I guess not.
 
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nns14

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Feb 10, 2018
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Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Nairobi, Kenya
NOC Code......
2147
App. Filed.......
26-09-2019
AOR Received.
26-09-2019
File Transfer...
24-10-2019
Passport Req..
18-Jul-2022
VISA ISSUED...
05-Aug-2022
LANDED..........
11-Jan-2023
May I please request you to fix your country's future first? before worrying about some foreign country. :D
Why don't YOU do that instead of running away from it??
 
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