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hishamx87

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I don’t agree, and I think they should change the ranking system in a way that people who bring kids should get more points because in that way you are already increasing Canadian population, and also differences between 29 year old person and 33 year old person is 20 points solely for age and that’s not fair because in real life and working abilities there’s no difference whatsoever.
I think they should award less points to singles compared to married ones. Giving more points to single individuals basically seems illogical to me as most of the single applicants keep Canadian PR as an option and they would move where ever they get a better opportunity (this thinking can be proved if you observe people saying I am married but I will not be accompanied with my wife etc). Whereas, married applicants tend to move little as they are bounded to stay in one place due to children's school and adaptability.

It will be better if they include additional points for people with Age < 35, CLB 9, and children.
 

vensak

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I don’t agree, and I think they should change the ranking system in a way that people who bring kids should get more points because in that way you are already increasing Canadian population, and also differences between 29 year old person and 33 year old person is 20 points solely for age and that’s not fair because in real life and working abilities there’s no difference whatsoever.
1. The ideal applicant is single or married young applicant without intention to have children in Canada. Children means additional expenses for Canada (education and health care). So why to have them, when you can get educated ready people for free. That your diploma is not recognised and you have to do additional licencing (Engineers, Doctors... that is your worry and expenses). Until then working in semi skilled positions is OK for Canada (new immigrants are much more willing to take them until they meet the requirements, than locals).
2. There will be always the argument that +2 to 3 years is not a big difference. However they have to start cutting the CRS somewhere. In addition Canada does not really need 90k of new Engineers / Managers / Doctors / IT specialists demanding senior positions per year. People for semi skilled to junior skilled positions are needed much more. That is the reason, why your work experience does not really matter that much (no need to have work experience related to your studies and no need to have consistent work experience for one area of training). So the younger age is more important here (when you are younger you are more prone to take junior position and be ok with it, then when you are older and more experienced).
 
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andieangel

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I think they should award less points to singles compared to married ones. Giving more points to single individuals basically seems illogical to me as most of the single applicants keep Canadian PR as an option and they would move where ever they get a better opportunity (this thinking can be proved if you observe people saying I am married but I will not be accompanied with my wife etc). Whereas, married applicants tend to move little as they are bounded to stay in one place due to children's school and adaptability.

It will be better if they include additional points for people with Age < 35, CLB 9, and children.
I agree completely. Specially with the last sentence!
 

andieangel

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1. The ideal applicant is single or married young applicant without intention to have children in Canada. Children means additional expenses for Canada (education and health care). So why to have them, when you can get educated ready people for free. That your diploma is not recognised and you have to do additional licencing (Engineers, Doctors... that is your worry and expenses). Until then working in semi skilled positions is OK for Canada (new immigrants are much more willing to take them until they meet the requirements, than locals).
2. There will be always the argument that +2 to 3 years is not a big difference. However they have to start cutting the CRS somewhere. In addition Canada does not really need 90k of new Engineers / Managers / Doctors / IT specialists demanding senior positions per year. People for semi skilled to junior skilled positions are needed much more. That is the reason, why your work experience does not really matter that much (no need to have work experience related to your studies and no need to have consistent work experience for one area of training). So the younger age is more important here (when you are younger you are more prone to take junior position and be ok with it, then when you are older and more experienced).
You don’t know the basic of economics, because if you did, you would know that children are future tax payers for all of you single people who will retire in 30 years. This is how system works. And there is no extra cost for Canadian system for children because in order for schools to exist and theachers to have their jobs there need to be children to go to schools in the first place. And non of us who has 10 or more experience in our filed wouldn’t want to take junior positions or get more certified in order to have a better carrier and salary.
 

hishamx87

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BTW.. big bucks are also routed by people with families. A single person will opt for a room and wouldn't buy a house. And people with families would prefer privacy, bring in money that will help in economic growth, be loyal to work, hesitate to commit crimes, have ready children who will contribute later in the economy and children will consider Canada as their home.

Most of the single people who immigrate don't have the tendency to wait for better jobs as they know they can move freely.
 

andieangel

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BTW.. big bucks are also routed by people with families. A single person will opt for a room and wouldn't buy a house. And people with families would prefer privacy, bring in money that will help in economic growth, be loyal to work, hesitate to commit crimes, have ready children who will contribute later in the economy and children will consider Canada as their home.

Most of the single people who immigrate don't have the tendency to wait for better jobs as they know they can move freely.
You read my mind! :)
 

The Wall

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I wouldn't agree to this. As of CIC thinks in this way why they decrease points of primary applicant and given those points to spouse?
Keep primary applicant points as it is and if anyone add spouse than it will be an added advantage to them.
In 2017 CRS score start at around 468. And it ends at around 436.
What will happen in 2018?. Where it ends? Start at 436 but end????
 
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andieangel

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I wouldn't agree to this. As of CIC thinks in this way why they decrease points of primary applicant and given those points to spouse?
Keep primary applicant points as it is and if anyone add spouse than it will be an added advantage to them.
In 2017 CRS score start at around 468. And it ends at around 436.
What will happen in 2018?. Where it ends? Start at 436 but end????
Hopefully it will end somewhere in sub 400s! :)
 

hishamx87

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I wouldn't agree to this. As of CIC thinks in this way why they decrease points of primary applicant and given those points to spouse?
Keep primary applicant points as it is and if anyone add spouse than it will be an added advantage to them.
In 2017 CRS score start at around 468. And it ends at around 436.
What will happen in 2018?. Where it ends? Start at 436 but end????
It's not an advantage unless someone has a wife or husband (as a dependent) with a PHD degree and CLB9/10 kind of weightage in their application.
 
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badgalroxy

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Hi guys….

I don’t post very often as you can see from my post count but this discussion about eligibility and CRS is very interesting and I felt inclined to add my $0.02.

Let me start off by giving my particulars. I’m 33 years old with a Bachelor’s Degree and CLB10, single with approximately 10 years of experience in my respective field and CRS of 419. Do I have a realistic chance of attaining an ITA at some point? By the Canadian ranking standard, I’m too “old” even though I still have more than 30 years to contribute to the Canadian economy as by the time I retire, I don’t know what the retirement age will be.

I still have lots of time to procreate and bring children into the society which means when they’re older, they can contribute as well. But it all seems a bit skewed for persons like myself who are in the middle of the spectrum and there is no telling what CIC will think of next.

I’m into Accounting so there really was no need for me to get a Master’s as it’s not necessary once you work toward a designation but clearly for immigration purposes, I’m not “good enough” because I don’t have these extra letters behind my name. My experience doesn’t count for much after 3 years, yet it has allowed me to accumulate the funds needed for settlement.

On paper, I’m not an ideal candidate but in reality, I’m perfect. Am I ready to relocate and settle? Of course, if not I won’t be going through this process. Will I be willing to take a junior level job to gain experience? In a heartbeat because this is only the start of an awesome journey and I’m in it for the long-haul.

The issue I’m finding with the current system is the fact that serious candidates are being overlooked because they’re over 30 but can still add so much value to a country as diverse as Canada. Younger persons are generally preferred because they’re more “adaptable” but that doesn’t mean they’re even serious about the entire process.

Immigration should not be a decision you take lightly like going to the local shelter and finding yourself a pet that you can return if you no longer want it or buying a house when you know you have the option of selling at any point. It’s a huge life decision and chances are you will be putting your current life behind and sometimes hauling your family halfway across the world to start anew.

I do understand it’s a competition and I’m happy for those who have been successful thus far but it’s difficult to sit where I am and wonder if I’ll ever be good enough….

Sorry for the long post!
 

Ascent

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May be you all r right with giving priorety to maried people. But on the the other hand single people will have more disposable income thus they help economic cycle in keep moving by reinvesting money.

Moreover singles tend to take jobs even in far flung areas as far as they r getting good money because of the ease of moving at their part and less hessel of moving and setteling a family.

So both populations r equally important for Canadian Economy and
I wish all single n maried candidates a Canadian PR.
 

JinandMango

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Atleast 6 months validity if im not wrong
Is PPR basically same term as landing?
If I do "in-land" PPR at local CIC offices, I guess I don't need 6 months validity since I am not travelling internationally.
I believe that 6 months validity law is a part of traveling, not immigration