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Ray of Hope - 74th Draw

nt13

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As excited as I am to get an ITA and eventually the PR card, the rise of nationalism in Canada is slightly worrying to me. If Trudeau keeps on bringing unvetted refugees from Syria at the rate he is doing until the next election in 2019, we will see a huge rise in support for the conservative party which is against large scale immigration like one intended by the liberals to boost Canada's population. Quebec might even vote for independence like one is happening Catalonia(spain). Their is also a huge rise is national socialist and white nationalist groups in Canada which may snowball into a full scale political party. These are troubled times we live in and if the right rises again, it will be bad news for all of us non white immigrants. The cold winds are rising, Winter is coming.
Congratulations on your ITA and good luck for the next process steps.

I would have avoided writing but couldn’t hold myself. I ain’t starting a debate here and I promise I won’t reply on any further replies on this.

I and many others understand you are trying to provide a realistic view of the future or world here, as seen in your above and earlier posts. But, let me tell you this, that there is no place I see on earth that will be true to 100% of anyone’s expectations. Let there be whoever/ whatever governments anywhere, so long we have opportunities, being selfish by all right with the right morals, we must all strive to improvise our tomorrows. Having said that, people here trying to immigrate to Canada, are mature enough to judge their own challenges and strengths. Let people here and governments anywhere do the way they think right. We can’t course correct the whole world.

I am only saying, try to see brighter side of things, we anyways know how much darkness is there around. This is Ray of Hope... and I like seeing the thread just for the name of it!!

All the best and thanks for sharing good information on immigration related stuff.
 

Samroze

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Hello,

I always find your posts quite informative and that's why keep a close eye on what you post.

If you remember earlier this year you mentioned that crs might go below 400 and even touch 380s by end of this year, 2017.
I just want to know is there any chance of crs getting that low by next year as Iam quite hopeful.
Going below 400 was expected but the scenario changed with the changes announced in June
15 additional points to siblings and other French language eligibility points
Moreover the whole month of June except the last week had seen no draws
All these boosted up the scores to 449 but eventually the scores are falling although the draw size is small
Crs 400 can be expected by March or April as seen last year when the drop was as low crs 413
Jan 2017 started with a higher score than Jan 2018 so probably it can go down to as low as 400
Below 400 scopes are high for ICT field
However being said all this the discretion is upto cic and it's pretty unpredictable:(
 

Nabs17

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This is a question for post ITA people,
I understand that we will need to fill out forms on line and attach docs for e-apr. Most forums give details of the documents that need to be attached (eg pcc, pof, emoloyment letters etc) but they dont provide details of things that we need to fill out. From what i gather, it includes personal history, travel history etc. Can someone shed some light on this in detail so that we can prepare them in advance.
 

Lala1234

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It's not at least 50 points. It's MAX 30 points for Canadian Education
You can always look at official data at http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/grid-crs.asp
Don't assume and provide wrong information.
I am sorry if that general statement has misguided anyone,I wasn't intending on doing so.I personally had not gone through the site but the info was passed onto me by my consultant last year when I had applied for a student visa and post June the change in the point system will certainly make a difference which I guess I missed..
Thank you for updating me about the same:)
 
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hamgha

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App. Filed.......
07-07-2017
Nomination.....
12-04-2017
IELTS Request
21-01-2017
Med's Done....
25-04-2017
This is a question for post ITA people,
I understand that we will need to fill out forms on line and attach docs for e-apr. Most forums give details of the documents that need to be attached (eg pcc, pof, emoloyment letters etc) but they dont provide details of things that we need to fill out. From what i gather, it includes personal history, travel history etc. Can someone shed some light on this in detail so that we can prepare them in advance.
personal history is just your life "story" to fill out, work unemployment etc... travel history is just your list of travels so nothing to prepare really. Mainly start getting reference letters for the jobs you claimed points for, you should have your ECA and IELTS reports. I'm sure you also have your diploma scans. You'll have to get PCCs from all the country you spend a total of 6 months or more in, medicals to book when you get ITA etc...
 
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Grewal222

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Sep 8, 2017
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What to say?This immigration process is testing my patience.I have put my professional plans on hold just due to it.Again its 438.At 429 and will be at 424 in December it seems never ending wait.
 

Samroze

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What to say?This immigration process is testing my patience.I have put my professional plans on hold just due to it.Again its 438.At 429 and will be at 424 in December it seems never ending wait.
Sailing in the same boat buddy
All we can do is pray for the scores to drop and stay patient
All the best ;) sooner or later our prayers will be answered for sure:)
Keep your hopes high November will be a game changer and we shall sail through:p:p
 

Joshy1979

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Oct 4, 2017
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Yes, she can apply alone for PR. In any case, PCC should be obtained before submission of the PR application for both of you.

Who needs a police certificate?
In general, you and all the people in your family who are 18 or older need to get a police certificate.

You may need a police certificate from any country or territory that you have spent six months or more since the age of 18.

For example: if you visited, worked or lived in a country for two months, left for a few years, then returned for four months, that counts as spending six months there. In this case, you would need a certificate.

If you need a police certificate from a country or territory and:

  • are currently living there, or received the police certificate before leaving, the police certificate must be issued within six months before you apply.
  • have lived there in the past, the police certificate must be issued after you last lived in that country or territory.
Thanks for your detailed response
 

Emnafrancks

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Long post warning.....Take time and read through patiently.

Disclaimer: Below post is my personal opinion and all numbers are estimates and all predictions are speculations.... (source - various forums, news articles, CIC immigration data, research and anaylsis of public data and personally collated data)

I have tried to work on some figures based on various draws and CRS data available, as well as taking into account public data on landed immigrant target numbers for the year 2016/2017 and expected numbers for 2018.

Immigration numbers for Economic programs for 2018 is expected to be in the range of 170k-195k . Of this the numbers for EE and PNP may be in the range of 122k-135k.
It is also expected that PNP quotas will be increased as was indicated in the Ministers forum on the 15th September.

The quotas are strict for provinces, however for federal EE program its a range and the program may exceed the upper limit.

Target 2017 = 122700 (EE + PNP)
Total ITAs issued 60960
Approx rejection/decline: 32%
Successful: 41452
Average number of landed immigrant per ITA = 2.35
Total expected landed immigrant based on ITA issued = 97412
Remaining target for 2017 = 122700-97412 = 25288
25288 @ 2.35 landed immigrant = 10760 Successful ITAs
with 32% rejection/decline = 15825 remaining ITAs for 2017
This means with approximate 6 draws remaining the ITA size may well stay within the range of 2600-2800 per draw.

I hope my mathematics above is correct.
This may well mean that we may not see a big drop in CRS is the draw size remains in this range, since CIC is nearing the target for 2017.

Expectation for 2018
It is expected that new immigration targets and PNP quotas will be announced before 01st November. These targets will essentially take effect from 01st January. However there is also an odd possibility that owing to faster processing, CIC may start taking into account the 2018 targets effective November onwards (as those immigrants will land only in 2018 and hence count towards the target of 2018).
This is sure to increase the draw sizes and therefore result in CRS drops.
It is expected that the 2018 targets for EE+PNP will be in the range of 122-135k.
It is also expected that IRCC will invest more money in technology to improve process and make it smoother, faster and simpler. This may however not mean that more immigrants will be accepted.
As of now CIC wants to clear all the backlogs that they have from the paper applications (last few batch remaining), PNPs, CECs. This will have to be done before Parliamentary announcements in March/April.

My prediction for 420+ scores
I would not expect a big drop in upcoming draws as it will largely depend on the ITA size.
With an average of 200+ applicants with scores over 430 entering the pool everyday. It may have been difficult to see the CRS drop below 430 in the near future. However Nominations quotas are all ending soon, so that means fewer 600+ scores and therefore lowered CRS during November-January.
January will see the reset of PNP quotas.
Hence 420 should clear out once the 2018 new numbers are announced and the ITA size increase, which may happen by November/December or worst case early 2018.

My prediction for sub 420 scores.
Since CRS has already dropped to the lowest levels of 413 once, there is no saying it wont touch that again or possible even lower. A year back no one would have given any chance to 430s and yet that is the new average now.
However few figures are not in the favour. Those are more applicants entering the pool with high 420+ scores. More students entering the Canadian shores and annually graduating with Canadian education and hence increased CRS points. So if there is any opportunity for sub 420s to go though the PNP route, they must grab it instead of waiting for the CRS to drop, which may or may not happen.

ICT Categories
2018 seems another promising year for ICT category with Canadian government now wanting to replicate Silicon Valley success in Canada. This means ICT Nocs will start appearing in most OIDs and OINP may yet again offer NOIs to sub 400 CRS Scores. Keep an eye out.

Thats all from my side. As I said the above is just my personal opinion based on my understanding of available data, past trends and expected numbers. (Read Speculation).
Good luck to all aspiring applicants. May the odds forever be in your favour.
#foreverhopeful

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CRS Data link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/4/d/1CNPZqJo7ZoRYiwAeNnrVT68FEVg0MYAOmPoFfx3KXVk/edit#gid=1633880733
 

_Harry_

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Is there a way to track it? or you will know only through the Visa stamp.

If it is getting late how can I expedite it? will CSE is helpful?
There is no way to expedite it. You can raise a CSE to get into about it though.
Reason of delay or any other concern but AFA the processing time is concerned, it depends on case to case and you can't expedite the process.