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Millenium

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May 29, 2019
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Congrats. I have to questions if you already got your PR Card.

1- Do you need to do any other application(s) to obtain PR Card? Or the only thing that you need is to change your address on that website as you told. So as I understand, your PR application is done by the agent at the airport.

2- How long did it take for you to get your printed PR Cards? And I just wonder that do they send PR cards to all kind of addresses? (such as hotels, AirBNB, any kind of temporary residence etc.)
Hello dearmilkyway, Answers below,
1- The agent at the airport will initiate the PR card request for you, you can track the thing in 2 ways:
- eCAS with your UCI number (less reliable way) its also the only way to change your address online. After going through PR card posts, the most reliable way to change your address is to call CIC (when you're still in Canada), be patient, they will pickup the phone and you can give them the address.
- gcKey is the other way (more reliable), after you open your profile you do a search for you (and any dependents) by UCI number, you'll find the PR card request and link them to your profile, you can track them afterwards.

2- I still didn't get my PR card but the status changed to "PR cards mailed to you" about 12 days after my landing (exactly like the CIC estimated time) I should get them this week. They were completed that quick I assume because they were OK with my photos.
For the address, I know they don't accept PO boxes, the most reliable way is a Home/Physical address, either a friend/family or a UPS mail box (I have friends that used them and they are reliable), you have to open one when you are there. For AirBNB I guess you should ask the address owner for the permission, you don't want him to throw your cards when they come :).

Hope
 

Millenium

Full Member
May 29, 2019
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Hello dearmilkyway, Answers below,
1- The agent at the airport will initiate the PR card request for you, you can track the thing in 2 ways:
- eCAS with your UCI number (less reliable way) its also the only way to change your address online. After going through PR card posts, the most reliable way to change your address is to call CIC (when you're still in Canada), be patient, they will pickup the phone and you can give them the address.
- gcKey is the other way (more reliable), after you open your profile you do a search for you (and any dependents) by UCI number, you'll find the PR card request and link them to your profile, you can track them afterwards.

2- I still didn't get my PR card but the status changed to "PR cards mailed to you" about 12 days after my landing (exactly like the CIC estimated time) I should get them this week. They were completed that quick I assume because they were OK with my photos.
For the address, I know they don't accept PO boxes, the most reliable way is a Home/Physical address, either a friend/family or a UPS mail box (I have friends that used them and they are reliable), you have to open one when you are there. For AirBNB I guess you should ask the address owner for the permission, you don't want him to throw your cards when they come :).

Hope
Quick update. Received the cards today.
 

andienzen

Full Member
Jan 15, 2019
47
34
Hi everyone,

I just got the Golden email yesterday!

PEQ inland
APP 28 May 2018
AOR 28 July 2018
Medical request + PPC: 15 Nov 2018
Pre arrival 16 Nov 2018
Medical exam + PPC submitted: 5 Dec 2018
DM + passport request 29 Aug 2019 (to my surprise!!)

I have learnt a lot in this forum. My experience is that it takes patience to reach the end of our journey. For some, the journey can be longer or harder (my case was relatively easy although I was really worried sometimes). Please keep your courage and perseverance. And one day you will be surprise to see the finish line just right in front of you.

Bless,
Congrats! Would you mind sharing your nationality?
 

dearmilkyway

Hero Member
Oct 10, 2017
356
224
Hello dearmilkyway, Answers below,
1- The agent at the airport will initiate the PR card request for you, you can track the thing in 2 ways:
- eCAS with your UCI number (less reliable way) its also the only way to change your address online. After going through PR card posts, the most reliable way to change your address is to call CIC (when you're still in Canada), be patient, they will pickup the phone and you can give them the address.
- gcKey is the other way (more reliable), after you open your profile you do a search for you (and any dependents) by UCI number, you'll find the PR card request and link them to your profile, you can track them afterwards.

2- I still didn't get my PR card but the status changed to "PR cards mailed to you" about 12 days after my landing (exactly like the CIC estimated time) I should get them this week. They were completed that quick I assume because they were OK with my photos.
For the address, I know they don't accept PO boxes, the most reliable way is a Home/Physical address, either a friend/family or a UPS mail box (I have friends that used them and they are reliable), you have to open one when you are there. For AirBNB I guess you should ask the address owner for the permission, you don't want him to throw your cards when they come :).

Hope
Thanks for your feedback. It is very comprehensive and helpful.
 

dearmilkyway

Hero Member
Oct 10, 2017
356
224
Dears,

Is there any way to see the documents which are uploaded by the applicant through the Web Form?
Because during the processing time, there might be several uploads for supporting documents. Is it possible to see those documents as well?
 

EH1978

Member
Jan 2, 2018
17
4
Beirut
Category........
QSW
Visa Office......
Sydney
Hello guys,
I am from lebanon
Application to CSQ On June 2014
CSQ received on Sep 2018
Biometric submitted on April 2019

Now what’s next ?
Any estimated time for requesting medical exams?

Please more information
Thanks a lot
 

Mhdkod

Full Member
Dec 15, 2015
44
5
Category........
NOC Code......
B556
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
04/11/2015
AOR Received.
14/12/2015
Hello everyone, my landing experience below (I posted my timeline May 29th):
1- Landed in Montreal Airport (YUL) August 14th at around 16:30.

2-
First-immigration queues were almost empty, you will find plenty of automated e-declaration machines (and I mean plenty) just before the first immigration control. Advices and lessons learned:
  • - There is an App (eDeclaration) were you can initiate your declaration beforehand (in your country for example) add your accompanying members details and it will generate a QR code so that when you are at the machine you just need to scan it through you phone, the app will still show your QR code even in Airplane mode the machine will ask you to flip your passport to link your declaration to you passport. I did mine and somehow taught it will be one declaration per family, no its not; Each family member need a separate declaration.
  • - You don't have to do the eDeclaration, even if you do it at the machine it's OK (honestly if I knew I would have done it at the machine), the process is easy and you will find very nice young people assisting you.
  • - Mention goods to follow list in your eDeclaration (tick Yes for GFL).
3- Next step is your first contact with CBSA (not the passport control yet), you will find a very nice CBSA agent acting like a dispatcher for the other agents making the process fast and streamlined. The agent will check mainly if you have your declaration paper ready, of course in my case I did screw up (first bullet in point-2) so he explained that each passport needs a declaration; I said despite my preparedness (the app and the forums and the etc...) I managed to mess up the thing and I will go back and do it again (the machines were just behind), he smiled and said no issue, I will refer you to my colleague he will fix it for you and he took us to the CBSA passport control (or as I call it Immigration-0).

4- At immigration-0 the CBSA agent asked us the purpose of our visit, where we are coming from, checked our Declarations and asked about food (not the money, this came after). He knew that he needed to manually add the declaration for my family (the previous CBSA agent explained him); I asked if I can ask him a question and he replied absolutely; then I said I have goods to follow do I have to tell you this now, he said that in my declaration I ticked “No” and I said I guess it’s another mess up, he smiled and said no issue he corrected my declaration with a red marker added my family (all together) manually in another paper and told me that you have to explain to the CBSA agent that will take those declaration from you (the last agent before you leave the airport with your luggage) that we are 4 and have only 2 declarations (one for me and one for my family all together) and he gave me those papers. He stamped our passports (a “Used” stamp in our Visas) directed us to Immigration-2 (not immigration-1) and wished us a nice day.

5- Immigration-1 & 2 were in the same corridor behind the checkpoint of Immigration-0. Those are basically independent waiting rooms with a lot of CBSA agents behind desks and a nice seating areas. When entering Immigration-2 you need to take a number (can’t remember the options) but we took a number related to Permanent Immigration. We took a seat and having our COPR, passports with the declaration , GFL and number on hand, the area was around 40% full but there was a CBSA agent roaming on the area checking our papers and asking some people to go ot Immigration-1 (students and work permit) and when CBSA desks were free he will ask other people to go to the assigned desks telling the agent behind the desk the number; he was very efficient, he emptied the room very quickly at a level were it was only us and another lady only left seating. He came to check our papers and told us “you’re at the right place and you will be called”.

6- We waited around 15 minutes and an agent called our number and we went there with our papers. He greeted us and asked for our paper so I gave him our passports, COPRs, goods to follow list (2 copies) and our original CSQs; he said I can keep the CSQs as he does not need them (I taught I read somewhere that they take the original CSQ). The conversation went like (as far as I remember):
  • Are you settling in Quebec?, A: Yes.
  • Do you have any other dependent not listed in your application?, A: No (I was like, dude, my wife is standing right next to me).
  • What is the amount of cash you’re carrying? A: xx in cash, xx in a Forex card totalizing about 5900 CAD (less than 10,000 CAD).
  • Do you have the minimum requirement to settle (the one we signed during the application process); A: Yes, in addition to the Cash (that was already above the minimum requirement) we have statements of our respective bank accounts.
  • How much do you estimate your total wealth (odd question but I read in other forums that it’s a common question now), A: I’m not sure. He said I just need an approximation only, A: I gave an estimation (after telling my kids to back off so they don’t listen).
  • I see that you have a completed good to follow list with the appendixes and the pictures of the jewelry, it’s very well done. A: Thank you, I spent a lot of time preparing it.
  • Everything seems OK, please take a seat and I will prepare all your documents and call you back. A: Thank you agent.
We waited for another 15 mn, the dispatching agent was so good that for the last 10 mn we were literally alone in the room with CBSA agents behind their desks; only the agent working on our papers was busy, he had some CBSA agents-trainee behind him showing them the process.
After the CBSA agent completed our papers he called my name and we went there; The conversation went like (also as far as I remember):
  • Here are your approved and stamped COPR copies, please keep those safely and basically forever. You will need them even after you get your citizenship for your pension. Those are dated and in order for you to keep your residency status you will have to reside in Canada for 730 days for the next 5 years starting at this date.
  • Here is your good to follow list approved and stamped. You can bring those goods anytime you want. I noticed later that he put a CBSA file number in my goods to follow list, stamped all the sheets (including appendixes) and inscribed the same number in the back of my COPR.
  • Here are your passports.
  • I already applied for your PR card, please go to this website (he handed to me a printed sheet with a web address) and change your address to a Canadian address so CIC can mail your cards (thing that I did later but it’s another story and another post).
  • I apologize I don’t have the welcome to Canada booklet in English (we spoke to that agent in English, the others we spoke in French, reason is so that my kids could understand the conversation in Immigration-2), I have only in French. I replied (in French) that it’s OK and he smiled and was surprised that I spoke French (like dude what the hell) and I explained for my kids thing.
  • He said all your documents are done, “WELCOME TO CANADA”.
We went outside and went down a floor (just followed luggage pickup sign), straight away our luggage were already turning on the belt. We recover them, did a toilet pitch-stop and went to the exit.

7- When exiting the airport, you will find people streaming through 4~5 queues with CBSA agents at the end controlling and taking the declaration cards only. When reaching the agent controlling my queue I explained that I don’t have 4 declaration cards and that my family is in another paper all together (the Immigration-0 agent thing in point-4), I started to explain further and he said “no problem sir, please go ahead, have a nice day”. Off we go, we are in Canada, I went to the car rental, we decided to apply for the SIN later in Service Canada.

Some notes:
  • YUL Airport is modern, very clean and all the CBSA processes are streamlined.
  • There were not a lot of flights at the time of our landing (16:30), it may be different in terms of traffic in other timings.
  • The CBSA agents (and we dealt directly with 5 of them) are all very polite, helpful and speak fluently both English and French (we spoke French with 4 of them and in English with one of them). You can ask them questions if you like, they will answer
  • CBSA agents like well-prepared documents, especially the GFL. Some advice: keep your COPR flat in a folder (try not the fold them as I think the VO’s always send them flat with the passport), type your GFL in the B186 and B186A neatly referencing the items in case you add an appendix (it’s not mandatory but makes the thing easier), put your CSQ in a separate folder.
That’s it, see you all in the next step.
Very useful and thoroughly described, That leaves me with a strong belief that your journey in Canada will be as neat as your description, all the best..
 
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ertarun

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Hello everyone, my landing experience below (I posted my timeline May 29th):
1- Landed in Montreal Airport (YUL) August 14th at around 16:30.

2-
First-immigration queues were almost empty, you will find plenty of automated e-declaration machines (and I mean plenty) just before the first immigration control. Advices and lessons learned:
  • - There is an App (eDeclaration) were you can initiate your declaration beforehand (in your country for example) add your accompanying members details and it will generate a QR code so that when you are at the machine you just need to scan it through you phone, the app will still show your QR code even in Airplane mode the machine will ask you to flip your passport to link your declaration to you passport. I did mine and somehow taught it will be one declaration per family, no its not; Each family member need a separate declaration.
  • - You don't have to do the eDeclaration, even if you do it at the machine it's OK (honestly if I knew I would have done it at the machine), the process is easy and you will find very nice young people assisting you.
  • - Mention goods to follow list in your eDeclaration (tick Yes for GFL).
3- Next step is your first contact with CBSA (not the passport control yet), you will find a very nice CBSA agent acting like a dispatcher for the other agents making the process fast and streamlined. The agent will check mainly if you have your declaration paper ready, of course in my case I did screw up (first bullet in point-2) so he explained that each passport needs a declaration; I said despite my preparedness (the app and the forums and the etc...) I managed to mess up the thing and I will go back and do it again (the machines were just behind), he smiled and said no issue, I will refer you to my colleague he will fix it for you and he took us to the CBSA passport control (or as I call it Immigration-0).

4- At immigration-0 the CBSA agent asked us the purpose of our visit, where we are coming from, checked our Declarations and asked about food (not the money, this came after). He knew that he needed to manually add the declaration for my family (the previous CBSA agent explained him); I asked if I can ask him a question and he replied absolutely; then I said I have goods to follow do I have to tell you this now, he said that in my declaration I ticked “No” and I said I guess it’s another mess up, he smiled and said no issue he corrected my declaration with a red marker added my family (all together) manually in another paper and told me that you have to explain to the CBSA agent that will take those declaration from you (the last agent before you leave the airport with your luggage) that we are 4 and have only 2 declarations (one for me and one for my family all together) and he gave me those papers. He stamped our passports (a “Used” stamp in our Visas) directed us to Immigration-2 (not immigration-1) and wished us a nice day.

5- Immigration-1 & 2 were in the same corridor behind the checkpoint of Immigration-0. Those are basically independent waiting rooms with a lot of CBSA agents behind desks and a nice seating areas. When entering Immigration-2 you need to take a number (can’t remember the options) but we took a number related to Permanent Immigration. We took a seat and having our COPR, passports with the declaration , GFL and number on hand, the area was around 40% full but there was a CBSA agent roaming on the area checking our papers and asking some people to go ot Immigration-1 (students and work permit) and when CBSA desks were free he will ask other people to go to the assigned desks telling the agent behind the desk the number; he was very efficient, he emptied the room very quickly at a level were it was only us and another lady only left seating. He came to check our papers and told us “you’re at the right place and you will be called”.

6- We waited around 15 minutes and an agent called our number and we went there with our papers. He greeted us and asked for our paper so I gave him our passports, COPRs, goods to follow list (2 copies) and our original CSQs; he said I can keep the CSQs as he does not need them (I taught I read somewhere that they take the original CSQ). The conversation went like (as far as I remember):
  • Are you settling in Quebec?, A: Yes.
  • Do you have any other dependent not listed in your application?, A: No (I was like, dude, my wife is standing right next to me).
  • What is the amount of cash you’re carrying? A: xx in cash, xx in a Forex card totalizing about 5900 CAD (less than 10,000 CAD).
  • Do you have the minimum requirement to settle (the one we signed during the application process); A: Yes, in addition to the Cash (that was already above the minimum requirement) we have statements of our respective bank accounts.
  • How much do you estimate your total wealth (odd question but I read in other forums that it’s a common question now), A: I’m not sure. He said I just need an approximation only, A: I gave an estimation (after telling my kids to back off so they don’t listen).
  • I see that you have a completed good to follow list with the appendixes and the pictures of the jewelry, it’s very well done. A: Thank you, I spent a lot of time preparing it.
  • Everything seems OK, please take a seat and I will prepare all your documents and call you back. A: Thank you agent.
We waited for another 15 mn, the dispatching agent was so good that for the last 10 mn we were literally alone in the room with CBSA agents behind their desks; only the agent working on our papers was busy, he had some CBSA agents-trainee behind him showing them the process.
After the CBSA agent completed our papers he called my name and we went there; The conversation went like (also as far as I remember):
  • Here are your approved and stamped COPR copies, please keep those safely and basically forever. You will need them even after you get your citizenship for your pension. Those are dated and in order for you to keep your residency status you will have to reside in Canada for 730 days for the next 5 years starting at this date.
  • Here is your good to follow list approved and stamped. You can bring those goods anytime you want. I noticed later that he put a CBSA file number in my goods to follow list, stamped all the sheets (including appendixes) and inscribed the same number in the back of my COPR.
  • Here are your passports.
  • I already applied for your PR card, please go to this website (he handed to me a printed sheet with a web address) and change your address to a Canadian address so CIC can mail your cards (thing that I did later but it’s another story and another post).
  • I apologize I don’t have the welcome to Canada booklet in English (we spoke to that agent in English, the others we spoke in French, reason is so that my kids could understand the conversation in Immigration-2), I have only in French. I replied (in French) that it’s OK and he smiled and was surprised that I spoke French (like dude what the hell) and I explained for my kids thing.
  • He said all your documents are done, “WELCOME TO CANADA”.
We went outside and went down a floor (just followed luggage pickup sign), straight away our luggage were already turning on the belt. We recover them, did a toilet pitch-stop and went to the exit.

7- When exiting the airport, you will find people streaming through 4~5 queues with CBSA agents at the end controlling and taking the declaration cards only. When reaching the agent controlling my queue I explained that I don’t have 4 declaration cards and that my family is in another paper all together (the Immigration-0 agent thing in point-4), I started to explain further and he said “no problem sir, please go ahead, have a nice day”. Off we go, we are in Canada, I went to the car rental, we decided to apply for the SIN later in Service Canada.

Some notes:
  • YUL Airport is modern, very clean and all the CBSA processes are streamlined.
  • There were not a lot of flights at the time of our landing (16:30), it may be different in terms of traffic in other timings.
  • The CBSA agents (and we dealt directly with 5 of them) are all very polite, helpful and speak fluently both English and French (we spoke French with 4 of them and in English with one of them). You can ask them questions if you like, they will answer
  • CBSA agents like well-prepared documents, especially the GFL. Some advice: keep your COPR flat in a folder (try not the fold them as I think the VO’s always send them flat with the passport), type your GFL in the B186 and B186A neatly referencing the items in case you add an appendix (it’s not mandatory but makes the thing easier), put your CSQ in a separate folder.
That’s it, see you all in the next step.
Wonderful, it takes time and effort to have this composed so nicely. God bless you for sharing your experience for the benefit of one and all. Cheers!

Quick question though, I have heard from many about Goods to follow list. Is that I can prepare something while I am in my home country, may be in an excel? Thanks!
 

ertarun

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Apr 14, 2016
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Hi Everyone,

Long wait is over finally-Approved
Today on 29/08/2019 CIC agent Confirmed you are Approved
My time line as under

CSQ - Application - 11/2015
CSQ - Received - 04/2018

Federal Part Application

File Posted - 06/2018
File Delivered - 06/2018
AOR - 08/2018
Medical Request- 11/18
Medicals done - 11/2018
Medicals Approved - 11/2018
Police check updated - 05/2019
(without asking)
DM - 28/08/2019

Country of Residence- Australia

Good luck All - Planing to go Canada around End Of Feb-2020

Ones again good luck to all and fingers crossed- God bless you all and God bless you Canada
Heartiest Congratulations! Good Luck!
 
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ertarun

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Hi All,

Pls advise on this response from London VO against my email for status update;

Dear Applicant,
Please be advised that your file is currently pending review by an Immigration Officer.
We appreciate your patience during this process and will contact you once there is an update to your file.


My time line;
Applied Dec 2017
AOR Feb 2018
Add docs Aug 2018(PCC and RCMP copy)
Pre arrival email Mar 2019
Medical.....?
RPRF.....?

thx
You are almost there. I have seen CIC clearing many late 2017 applicants in the last couple of days. I hope you get your MR and DM very soon! Also, do try calling CIC. It may wake them up.
 

Millenium

Full Member
May 29, 2019
24
26
Wonderful, it takes time and effort to have this composed so nicely. God bless you for sharing your experience for the benefit of one and all. Cheers!

Quick question though, I have heard from many about Goods to follow list. Is that I can prepare something while I am in my home country, may be in an excel? Thanks!
Hello ertarun, what I did for the GFL is that I created my inventory in excel with the estimated values, I started with the jewelry and watches then furniture, electronics, clothes and miscellaneous. About one week before landing when I was sure I won’t add stuff and that the estimated values are OK, I copied line by line to the 186 and 186A forms. You don’t have to do it, you can even write your inventory by hand but if you do it you’ll make the CBSA agent life easier and he will get your papers ready quicker, he will rather focus on applying for your PR card and that’s really what you want.
 
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