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Principal Applicant (Inland) Dependent (Outland) during COVID-19

shomaro

Hero Member
Jan 6, 2020
411
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In PPR letter it says 2 photos of yourself and each dependents, my question is Primary applicant also should give photos even though he is inland(canada)
Can any one clarify my doubt
If you are in Canada and had received eCoPR, for youself you don't have to send anything.

There will be a second follow up letter after the RFV letter, saying that "Even though the previous letter was addressed to you, the content of this letter is intended for your accompanying family members. Please advise them to follow the instructions specified in the letter. "
 

Wahith

Member
Oct 9, 2021
11
1
If you are in Canada and had received eCoPR, for youself you don't have to send anything.

There will be a second follow up letter after the RFV letter, saying that "Even though the previous letter was addressed to you, the content of this letter is intended for your accompanying family members. Please advise them to follow the instructions specified in the letter. "
Thank u
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon dear sir, thank you so much for your prompt response!
this is for my spouse travel back to Canada,
We applied for PR in Oct 2020 EE where I am CEC inland and my spouse and kid is Outland, this application is not yet finalized ( may be due to Outland dependents) meanwhile my spouse‘s TRV application received a PPR request.
Currently she is holding a spousal open work permit valid until mid Dec 2021 and May be the TRV will also be stamped with the same validity. My ask is -in this situation, Can she travel back to Canada with this TRV and open work permit having short validity or she may face challenges by CBSA ? Does the authorities and airlines permit entry with this TRV ?
As long as you have a valid visa and permit you can travel. However, you will have to make sure that your spouse remains in status while in Canada, so you will have to apply for a visitor's record to extend the stay, and you should apply at least 30 days before your current status expires.

As long as you do the above, there is no issue. As regards the entry, there should be no issues as long as your WP is valid, since your spouse;s WP is dependent on your WP.
 

Vivek M

Member
Jul 26, 2020
14
1
As long as you have a valid visa and permit you can travel. However, you will have to make sure that your spouse remains in status while in Canada, so you will have to apply for a visitor's record to extend the stay, and you should apply at least 30 days before your current status expires.

As long as you do the above, there is no issue. As regards the entry, there should be no issues as long as your WP is valid, since your spouse;s WP is dependent on your WP.
Many thanks @legalfalcon for the guidance and prompt responses!!!
Also, kindly advise, is it possible to apply for the status extension for my spouse from outland? before they travel back to Canada?
 

peterjohn

Star Member
Oct 14, 2017
88
52
Nigeria
Category........
CEC
Visa Office......
CPC Ottawa
AOR Received.
03-07-2021
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
30-06-2021
Passport Req..
06-10-2021
VISA ISSUED...
09-11-2021
LANDED..........
28-11-2021
Hi @legalfalcon or anyone that just received PPR in the past week.
Our letter was addressed to the PA but clearly also referring to the Outland Dependent.
This is the confusing part, it was worded as if the PA don't yet have eCoPR and so was asking us to submit both our passports to an address in Canada.
From other comments here I already know that the PA passport part should be ignored, so I want to know if we should go ahead and use the current RFV letter and submit the passport to the VFS in my country or request for a new one through the webform, majorly because the submission address is in Canada.

*PA has eCoPR already.
 
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sumitsaurav

Star Member
Nov 6, 2020
140
19
Hi @legalfalcon or anyone that just received PPR in the past week.
Our letter was addressed to the PA but clearly also referring to the Outland Dependent.
This is the confusing part, it was worded as if the PA don't yet have eCoPR and so was asking us to submit both our passports to an address in Canada.
From other comments here I already know that the PA passport part should be ignored, so I want to know if we should go ahead and use the current RFV letter and submit the passport to the VFS in my country or request for a new one through the webform, majorly because the submission address is in Canada.
Hey I’m in the similar situation dependent received the PPR addressed to my name and need to submit only once the PA received the PR.I also received the portal confirmation email
 

HARRY HARPREET

Full Member
Dec 31, 2019
41
4
hi sir @legalfalcon, i need ur advice, due to emergency i travel to home country. My AOR march 15 under CEC and currently working on LMIA , PA inland and Dependents 2 out land

on sep 01 received GCMS and find eligibility under review required whats it mean, my main concern is if i receive E-mail for portal while iam in india.What can i do at that time is there one or two week for reply to email , that i come back with in days
 

charmer89

Full Member
Dec 17, 2020
32
8
Where do we get the Courier & SMS form for VFS? It seems like we need to fill this document while submitting the passport.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
hi sir @legalfalcon, i need ur advice, due to emergency i travel to home country. My AOR march 15 under CEC and currently working on LMIA , PA inland and Dependents 2 out land

on sep 01 received GCMS and find eligibility under review required whats it mean, my main concern is if i receive E-mail for portal while iam in india.What can i do at that time is there one or two week for reply to email , that i come back with in days
Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied to (FSW / CEC / FTW). To streamline this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision-making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize them in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or is “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employee cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst/assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst/assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst/assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is a “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are known as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF is anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

These are just some of the scenarios.

Email while you are outside Canada.

If you receive an email for the PR portal when you are outside Canada, you have two options.

Either travel to Canada and complete the formalities. or

Inform IRCC that you are outside Canada, and ask them to send you a PPR.

Which option you select will depend on how long you intend to stay outside Canada.
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi @legalfalcon or anyone that just received PPR in the past week.
Our letter was addressed to the PA but clearly also referring to the Outland Dependent.
This is the confusing part, it was worded as if the PA don't yet have eCoPR and so was asking us to submit both our passports to an address in Canada.
From other comments here I already know that the PA passport part should be ignored, so I want to know if we should go ahead and use the current RFV letter and submit the passport to the VFS in my country or request for a new one through the webform, majorly because the submission address is in Canada.

*PA has eCoPR already.

All correspondence sent by IRCC will always be in the name of the PA. If you have received your e-COPR, the email is for your dependents not in Canada to submit their passports.
 

peterjohn

Star Member
Oct 14, 2017
88
52
Nigeria
Category........
CEC
Visa Office......
CPC Ottawa
AOR Received.
03-07-2021
Med's Request
Upfront
Med's Done....
30-06-2021
Passport Req..
06-10-2021
VISA ISSUED...
09-11-2021
LANDED..........
28-11-2021
All correspondence sent by IRCC will always be in the name of the PA. If you have received your e-COPR, the email is for your dependents not in Canada to submit their passports.
I get that, but the mailing address in the letter is Canada and the dependent isn't in Canada.