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sudhakar_pt

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I have a doubt regarding the 38 profession list.My sister has done Phd in Genetics with 1 year work experience.will she be eligible to apply under skilled worker category to canada?Thank you.
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the 38 job list is not about education but about job. SO it depends on what work she did. Is she teaching, if yes, then teaching at university/college level is on the list.
 

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Hi,
Thank you.She is doing research after Phd,is she still eligible?
with regards,
Sudhakar.
 

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Dear Suda / CanadaVisa4me

we are in the same boat .

i am also doing Phd last 3 years at university . i have same question

my profile as below

taking lab sessions/ exams/ tutorials / seminar and doing research at university .

i have proof as Timetable of load etc.

designated as Senior Research fellow since 3 years.

Should i eligible for 4131 ??????????
 

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sudhakar_pt said:
Hi,
Thank you.She is doing research after Phd,is she still eligible?
with regards,
Sudhakar.
there is no occupation regarding research is in 38 NOCs
 

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tom_bruz said:
Dear Suda / CanadaVisa4me

we are in the same boat .

i am also doing Phd last 3 years at university . i have same question

my profile as below

taking lab sessions/ exams/ tutorials / seminar and doing research at university .

i have proof as Timetable of load etc.

designated as Senior Research fellow since 3 years.

Should i eligible for 4131 ??????????
If your duties maches with 4131 or 4121 you can apply
 

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Its more about the job duties than the designation. So if you have performed at least 70% of the job duties listed for NOC 4131/4121 then you are eligible to apply. There are other factors however that will decide if you will actually make it past the 67 points marks. So plz make sure that you are getting past 67 marks then you can go ahead and apply at the CIO.
 

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SapanaB, what differentiates a teaching assistant NOC from 4131 and 4121. Can someone claim they are 4131 or 4121 even though they work as a teaching assistant? The jobs are similar but there is also an NOC for teaching assistant which is not in the 38 job list. Your help appreciated.
 

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tom_bruz said:
Dear Suda / CanadaVisa4me

we are in the same boat .

i am also doing Phd last 3 years at university . i have same question

my profile as below

taking lab sessions/ exams/ tutorials / seminar and doing research at university .

i have proof as Timetable of load etc.

designated as Senior Research fellow since 3 years.

Should i eligible for 4131 ??????????
I had a 6yr PhD with a full TAship followed by a 2 yr post doc (Research Associate) both in the US. And then a 3yr teaching as Asst Prof in India. My consultant thought it was best to put in just the 3 yrs as Asst Prof as an exp for points and I have filed in the NOC 4121. Post doc exp doesn't seem to count in any of the NOC but the TA duties match the NOC 4131 and 4121 to an extent. I would think experience as a TA should qualify for consideration for NOC 4131. or may be you could wait and get some solid teaching experience and file under NOC 4121...
best wishes,
cprak0
 

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CanadaVisa4me said:
SapanaB, what differentiates a teaching assistant NOC from 4131 and 4121. Can someone claim they are 4131 or 4121 even though they work as a teaching assistant? The jobs are similar but there is also an NOC for teaching assistant which is not in the 38 job list. Your help appreciated.
The difference is that a TA/RA under NOC 4122 is student employment - you are also enrolled in the university as a condition of the employment.

If you happen to have a professional job (not related to being a student) with a title that is "Teaching Assistant" or "Research Assistant," it is a different NOC.

It's not simply a matter of "claiming" an occupation - remember, you will have to document it, and your employer will have to verify your employment status.
 

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sudhakar_pt said:
Dear all,
I have a doubt regarding the 38 profession list.My sister has done Phd in Genetics with 1 year work experience.will she be eligible to apply under skilled worker category to canada?Thank you.
with regards,
Sudhakar.
This would be the NOC for a geneticist who does research - not on the list of 38.
http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/NOC/2006/ProfileKeyword.aspx?val=2&val1=2121&val11=research&val12=0&val13=0&val14=&val15=0&val16=0

University Professors are NOC 4121, on the list of 38.
 

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jes_ON said:
The difference is that a TA/RA under NOC 4122 is student employment - you are also enrolled in the university as a condition of the employment.

If you happen to have a professional job (not related to being a student) with a title that is "Teaching Assistant" or "Research Assistant," it is a different NOC.

It's not simply a matter of "claiming" an occupation - remember, you will have to document it, and your employer will have to verify your employment status.
I am employed by the university as a condition of my funding, but I don't have to take this funding and if I don't take this funding, then it doesn't mean I can't do my degree. I can still do my degree without funding, except I would have to pay for it myself. So would mind be 4122 or 4121/4131?
 

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CanadaVisa4me said:
I am employed by the university as a condition of my funding, but I don't have to take this funding and if I don't take this funding, then it doesn't mean I can't do my degree. I can still do my degree without funding, except I would have to pay for it myself. So would mind be 4122 or 4121/4131?
It's not that confusing. Are you a graduate RA/TA (4122) or a professor? (4121)? Would you ask your professor to write a letter stating you are a professor? :)
 

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In some universities in the US, Teaching Assistant/Associate have full teaching responsibilities. That is they teach their own class independently, design their own syllabus, grade exam, hold office hours...etc... In such circumstance, you can fall under NOC 4121. Either way, make sure you have the letter from your department head, teaching evaluations or any other documented proof that you were teaching independently.
 

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Dear all

i have a master's degree but i did NOT have to study full time for my master. i had first year as courses with credit hours and affter i passed this year i had to prepare a thesis. the period of the thesis is not defined you may finish in 1 year of max 5-6 years. during these years you follow up with your supervisor and you don't have to attend classes. it is about how you manage it with your supervisor.

the question is, do i add these years, 6 years, to my university formal education years to (5 undergraduate+6 postgraduate) ?
and if i have to, Shall i add 6 years (cosidering that it was not full time) or how to calculat it ?

many thanks