Parents and Grandparents Sponsorship 2019
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Primary applicant details and in last question of count (add sponsor, co-signer and both parent but no kids (so 4))
you ppl are aware of post 9203 pg 614? Its a process...
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So after linking application, it is not 100% sure that they will send the AOR? OR it is 100% sure that they will send the AOR?
I am updating this (Original Post 7747 pg 517) with some new info on timing etc. based on feedback from other members as the original post is now locked and cannot be edited per forum rules. Also, a lot of new members (who have just joined / haven't reviewed the past 600 pages) are asking some of the basic fundamental questions on timing / process etc.
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Based on my last call with CIC agent (I called again as I wanted to get the Temporary "Prospect File" Number), he described the following process of getting the file to ECAS. He was surprisingly acquainted with the process...
Current process for those who are looking for answers .. thanks to
zeiesfirdaus
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Based on my last call with CIC agent (I called again as I wanted to get the Temporary "Prospect File" Number), he described the following process of getting the file to ECAS. He was surprisingly acquainted with the process...
- CIC Receives the Application
- CIC Opens the Package and Scans the Barcodes Forms / Fee Forms and Other forms / documents and prepares a file - This is called "Prospect File" Stage. This can happen the same date the application is received, or at a much later date. There is no magic to this, and is purely on the burden on CIC. This has nothing to do with forms being stapled / order of invite letter or fee receipt, or barcodes all together or above each of the respective forms, additional documents, being included, use of new forms / old forms etc. There is no need to panic if the Prospect File is not created on same date the application is received. Based on current trends it is taking at least 2 -3 weeks.
- A Temporary Application ID is created. This is temporary and for internal use only. This number WILL change. There is nothing that we can do with this temporary file ID number. Temporary Application ID starts with X and is followed with the actual File No. e.g. XF000000000.
- The person who scans these files (may or may not choose) to "activate" ECAS Status. There is a "Submit to View" or something along this lines button that can be pressed. This explains why some people see ECAS right away, while others have to wait for additional steps below. (My theory: it's the interns who go the extra mile, seasoned officers tasked with this don't bother
) Application received Stage in ECAS, if activated. In the past few pages this has been unofficially christened as the "Crazy Intern Theory" by members. - In addition to the a"Submit to View" button, the UCI for Sponsor / Parents has to be active (e.g. in my case, my UCI is more than 7 years old (since it was used last) and is not active in CIC database. A new one will be created). The active part was partially incorrect info by previous agent. New agent has confirmed that the old UCI has to be "activated" and "linked" to the new application.
- The Prospect File is handed to a CIC Case Officer (CO) - first come first serve basis. (The first come first serve theory is now confirmed based on trends, unless the "crazy intern theory" takes precedence, which has happened in a few cases.
- The CO reviews the file for completeness, correct fees, etc. and generates a proper Application ID (i.e. just removes the X in front of the temporary file number), new UCI (if old ones are inactive) old UCI's are linked, and activates the file - ECAS Status is now available. In process Stage in ECAS. As of today, current lead time to get to this stage is anywhere between 4-6 weeks (and increasing as more and more applications come through) for most people. Refer Tracker.
- CO issues the AoR (by email if available) to the Sponsor with Application ID F000000000
- With the application ID, one can now "link" the application on myCIC.
- Assessment Stage Starts. File review is now underway for Sponsor eligibility. Stays as In process Stage in ECAS?
- Missing documents / additional documents etc are now requested.
- eCAS often lags behind actual AoR email or myCIC.
- In some case people have been able to link their myCIC with the Temporary File number (remove the "x") while no update is being seen on eCAS. Again, only possible if Step 7 has happened.
Current process for those who are looking for answers .. thanks to
zeiesfirdaus
For everyone's Benefit :
The family size while linking the application should include Primary Applicant, Sponsor and co-signer (if applicable). Please follow the below link to get more information.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1226&top=23
From CIC FAQ -
"If you are applying for family sponsorship, enter the number of family members, including the primary applicant, the sponsor and the co-signer (if applicable) who are part of your application."
@YULIA-2016 , Could you please add the above link to SOME LINKS tab?
The family size while linking the application should include Primary Applicant, Sponsor and co-signer (if applicable). Please follow the below link to get more information.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1226&top=23
From CIC FAQ -
"If you are applying for family sponsorship, enter the number of family members, including the primary applicant, the sponsor and the co-signer (if applicable) who are part of your application."
@YULIA-2016 , Could you please add the above link to SOME LINKS tab?
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I was told by the CIC agent that since I already linked the application, it is not 100% sure that I will get the AOR. Because OR is just to indicate you that your application is started processing and your application number details. I can see the application number and any of the corresponding communication in the online system now.
And I can get any email notification if there's any corresponding communication from CIC as per my email communication setting.
Showing 11-2018.
The validate option is to make sure you did't miss any field. This form won't generate a barcode. What msg you are seeing?
I used the principal applicant's info which was in the submitted application package.
And importantly for the number of family members make sure to count the count of applicants (principal, dependents) and sponsor, co-signer.
I am sponsoring my parents (both mom & dad), with a co-signer (my spouse). I have a son who born in 2017. So earlier I thought to put the family size as 2+1+2 = 5. But in this linking section, they didn't include my son. So I just tried the family size as 4 and it worked.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1226&top=23
If you go to the central page with all immigration forms, 5660 shows june 2019 and only option to save and not validate