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Parents and Grandparents Sponsorship 2017

riasat.abir

Hero Member
Aug 9, 2012
691
34
Burnaby
Visa Office......
CPC-Ottawa
NOC Code......
2174
App. Filed.......
2015-12-17
AOR Received.
2016-02-22
Med's Done....
2016-03-09
Passport Req..
2016-08-17
VISA ISSUED...
2016-08-30
LANDED..........
2016-09-09
Is it going to open in 2018 again?
 

SDave

Full Member
Feb 6, 2015
21
0
The agents were wrong.

If your family size is 4 today, then you must meet family size of 4 back in 2014. It doesn't matter if you were on work permit for just half the year, if you don't meet the income based on your 2014 tax return, you don't qualify. There is no discretion possible by the visa officers and no explanations accepted, this is stated very clearly in the manuals.

So if you already submitted while not meeting 2014 LICO for your family size today, you should expect your app to eventually be rejected.

Also while waiting for rejection, you may miss out in applying in later years when you actually do qualify.

Thank you.... Let's see..!! Were you working as a CIC call center agent in the past..?? (just curious) ;-)
 

YULIA-2016

Champion Member
Mar 4, 2015
2,939
760
Visa Office......
Warsaw
App. Filed.......
Jan.2016
AOR Received.
June 2016
File Transfer...
Jan.2017
Med's Request
First June 06-2017 from Warsaw ; Second 26 July 2018 from London
Med's Done....
Sep 27 2018
Passport Req..
DM Sep 29 2018, PPR Oct 01 2018
VISA ISSUED...
Oct 10 2018
My case, If anyone can help...

I got lottery in second round. To check my eligibility, I called couple of CIC call center agent to review my case and guide me. All agents suggested me to submit with "explanation letter and explanation supporting documents". I also mentioned their agent number as reference in explanation letter...

Here's my situation..

In 2014, my annual salary was according to LICO, but I couldn't work half of the year because of immigration restoration process, and I was on work permit..!!
I got my PR in July-2015 ... I meet criteria of 2015 LICO (based on family size 3- me & parents)


I took chance, submitted my application on Nov-9-2017..!! Mississuga received on 12 Nov-2017..!! Please add me in that spreadsheet. I'm from INDIA
done

Who is eligible to sponsor a parent or grandparent
You can sponsor your parent or grandparent if you’re 18 years of age or older, living in Canada and a:

  • Canadian citizen or
  • person registered in Canada as an Indian under the Canadian Indian Act or
  • permanent resident of Canada

DID you pay RPRF fee?
 

SDave

Full Member
Feb 6, 2015
21
0
done

Who is eligible to sponsor a parent or grandparent
You can sponsor your parent or grandparent if you’re 18 years of age or older, living in Canada and a:

  • Canadian citizen or
  • person registered in Canada as an Indian under the Canadian Indian Act or
  • permanent resident of Canada

DID you pay RPRF fee?

Thanks for adding
Yes I pad RPRF too.
CIC agents told me that it will take time to get refund for RPRF if I'm not eligible.
They were also not sure because, as we know case by case situation is different. They told me that eligibility criteria always changing.

Their manual says, 18 years of age or older, PR, citizen or Native status. It doesn't say that person MUST be PR /Citizen since 2014,2015,2016 (last 3 years) to apply and sponsor under PGP-2017....!! That's why CIC agents suggested me to apply and submit clarification letter....!!

Let's see now...
 

YULIA-2016

Champion Member
Mar 4, 2015
2,939
760
Visa Office......
Warsaw
App. Filed.......
Jan.2016
AOR Received.
June 2016
File Transfer...
Jan.2017
Med's Request
First June 06-2017 from Warsaw ; Second 26 July 2018 from London
Med's Done....
Sep 27 2018
Passport Req..
DM Sep 29 2018, PPR Oct 01 2018
VISA ISSUED...
Oct 10 2018
Thanks for adding
Yes I pad RPRF too.
CIC agents told me that it will take time to get refund for RPRF if I'm not eligible.

that's what i' ve heard :(

Let's see now...
sure, keep us posted :rolleyes:
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,427
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
Thank you.... Let's see..!! Were you working as a CIC call center agent in the past..?? (just curious) ;-)
No. But we see cases all the time on this forum where CIC agents have given very wrong advice.

The problem with the "lets see" attitude, is that it may take a long time for your app to be rejected. And while you're waiting with an app in process, you may not be able to submit an app in later years when you actually do qualify for income.

They were also not sure because, as we know case by case situation is different. They told me that eligibility criteria always changing.
No nothing is changing. The rules are always the same in terms of if you meet the income requirements. There is no "case by case" scenario here, you either meet income or you don't.

Their manual says, 18 years of age or older, PR, citizen or Native status. It doesn't say that person MUST be PR /Citizen since 2014,2015,2016 (last 3 years) to apply and sponsor under PGP-2017....!! That's why CIC agents suggested me to apply and submit clarification letter....!!

Let's see now...
That is correct, you only need to be a PR when you apply. It's fine if your previous 3 years income were while on work permit.

The only important part, is if your 2014 tax return meets the LICO amount for family size of today. This is a simple yes or no answer, there is no discretion or explanation otherwise.
 
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Smileforu

Hero Member
Jan 23, 2013
439
128
Category........
Visa Office......
London
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Feb 2010
Doc's Request.
April 2010
File Transfer...
April 2010 ! March 2012 6-12 months wait letter
Has anyone received SA ? Application received end of July and still waiting ?
 

YULIA-2016

Champion Member
Mar 4, 2015
2,939
760
Visa Office......
Warsaw
App. Filed.......
Jan.2016
AOR Received.
June 2016
File Transfer...
Jan.2017
Med's Request
First June 06-2017 from Warsaw ; Second 26 July 2018 from London
Med's Done....
Sep 27 2018
Passport Req..
DM Sep 29 2018, PPR Oct 01 2018
VISA ISSUED...
Oct 10 2018

ppphoebe.zs

Star Member
Nov 16, 2017
67
17
Processing time for parents still shows Processing Jan 2014 and hasn't moved in a year. This is NOT GOOD. I wonder if there is any consensus here and if people are willing to join forces to write to minister of immigration to consider expediting parents as part of the new Million immigrants to come in as all those waiting for their parents have suffered long wait times:

This is what I have been seeing for long time. There are probably 100 people on this forum who can sign a paper and I would like to volunteer time + anyone else who can help - to send a request to some immigration firms and request their clients (who sponsored parents/grandparents) to make a request as a petition to the minister:

Working on applications received in January 2014

Is there any interest?
I am in
 

SHIRDISAI

Star Member
Sep 13, 2013
150
28
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
NOC Code......
2174
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
19-07-2013
Doc's Request.
22-01-2014 (RCMP Request) /20-02-2014 ( default PCC request)
AOR Received.
17-09-2013
IELTS Request
sent along with package
File Transfer...
17-09-2013
Med's Request
Changed to in process on 23 Apr 2015
Med's Done....
10-02-2014 & 24-02-2014 (Medical Sent) , Paid RPRF upfront
Passport Req..
1st May 2015
VISA ISSUED...
11th May 2015
LANDED..........
1st June 2015
Hi , i have sent my package on 21st Nov 2017 . Today i got mail from cic that my generic information form is incomplete and they requested again that form . They also mentioned that all the dependent must be included .
I have only mentioned my father as dependent as my all siblings are above 25 years old and my mother is primary applicant .
So i am not sure whats missing . Only thing i can think of that my generic application form was old as form is changed in october .
Any suggestion guys ?
 

YULIA-2016

Champion Member
Mar 4, 2015
2,939
760
Visa Office......
Warsaw
App. Filed.......
Jan.2016
AOR Received.
June 2016
File Transfer...
Jan.2017
Med's Request
First June 06-2017 from Warsaw ; Second 26 July 2018 from London
Med's Done....
Sep 27 2018
Passport Req..
DM Sep 29 2018, PPR Oct 01 2018
VISA ISSUED...
Oct 10 2018
Hi , i have sent my package on 21st Nov 2017 . Today i got mail from cic that my generic information form is incomplete and they requested again that form . They also mentioned that all the dependent must be included .
I have only mentioned my father as dependent as my all siblings are above 25 years old and my mother is primary applicant .
So i am not sure whats missing . Only thing i can think of that my generic application form was old as form is changed in october .
Any suggestion guys ?
you did correct mom+dad so call them and ask what they need exactly and yes you need to fill new version form out
 

Balwinder Sekhon

Star Member
Sep 14, 2017
98
21
What i heard they did not receive even 10000 applications this year. Because there was no scrutiny to assess application prior submission many of them got rejected, mainly due to income qualification.
Yes. I heard same thing. Probably next year, there will be some changes in lottery system.

Probably, eligibility will be checked first before enter your name in lottery.
 

jbhkaur

Hero Member
Aug 2, 2015
316
25
You mean AOR? yes some of us have already received AOR email and are able to see their application on eCas. But fo those who applied end of July, I don't think no one has already SA.
My application received July 28. I have representative on my file who is on vacation right now. I don’t know if I received AOR or SOA yet, but my ecas is working and showing only application received.

Thank you