"Not convinced" I will leave Canada--but I intend on applying for PR!

[2nose]

Hi everyone,

Asking on behalf of a (Nigerian) colleague. He has applied twice for a Canadian study permit but is always refused because they do not believe he will leave the country at the end of his program. But what is confusing is that he doesn't intend on leaving: upon graduation, his plan is to apply for a PGWP and then for PR either through EE or the OINP. He doesn't understand how, if these programs exist for the very purpose of facilitating international students to remain in the country and eventually apply for PR, that the fact he intends to utilize them for that purpose can be used against him.

Any suggestions? He has been accepted to Niagara College for their mental health program and will be applying soon. One idea we had was to clearly articulate on his cover letter the path he intends to use to eventually gain PR (again: Study Permit--PGWP--EE/OINP, so the officer knows that he is aware of the process and has a plan in place. What do you think?

Thanks!

 

[k.h.p.]

He has to be willing and intend to leave if he doesn't qualify for a PGWP or PR.

The study permit is not intended to be a pathway to PR.

 

[jddd]

To add to above, your friend also has his fellow Nigerians to blame as many who have applied and received temporary visas (tourist, student, etc) have arrived to Canada and filed for asylum instead of complying with what they said they will come to Canada for.

 

[jweekend]

like what the above person said. It is because of your nationality and your fellow countrymen making things difficult for you. Many of whom in the past have violated immigration laws and non-compliance with the study permit. Meaning that many people of your nationality used the study permit to 'escape' and never return home, even when it explicitly states that a study permit is a temporary permit.

So now, it becomes very strict as to who can receive a study permit. Its not your fault, neither is Canada Immigration. If you want to blame, blame your country's culture and behaviour.

 

[bongoman]

He should have never mentioned his plan to get PR in a study permit application. In an SP application you are supposed to show the exact opposite, show reasons how this education will help you back home in your career once you complete it and show ties to home that will bring you back after completion.

It might seem silly but that is the game we play.

 

[scylla]

Hi everyone,

Asking on behalf of a (Nigerian) colleague. He has applied twice for a Canadian study permit but is always refused because they do not believe he will leave the country at the end of his program. But what is confusing is that he doesn't intend on leaving: upon graduation, his plan is to apply for a PGWP and then for PR either through EE or the OINP. He doesn't understand how, if these programs exist for the very purpose of facilitating international students to remain in the country and eventually apply for PR, that the fact he intends to utilize them for that purpose can be used against him.

Any suggestions? He has been accepted to Niagara College for their mental health program and will be applying soon. One idea we had was to clearly articulate on his cover letter the path he intends to use to eventually gain PR (again: Study Permit--PGWP--EE/OINP, so the officer knows that he is aware of the process and has a plan in place. What do you think?

Thanks!

It's a bad idea that will fail.

His third application will need to be very strong given he already has two refusals.

Regardless of what his plans are and what may logically make sense, he must show strong ties to his home country (e.g. property, assets, etc.) and demonstrate that he has plans to return to be approved. If he states in his SOP that his objective is to remain long term, that will pretty much guarantee another refusal.

 

[k.h.p.]

you are basically encouraging him to lie....

It all has to be true, too.

Canada allows people to have dual intent - they can intend to be students but also intend to become PR. However, they must be able to prove that they will abide by the terms of their student permit if they are not granted PGWP. If they are granted PGWP, they must prove they will abide by the terms of the PGWP if they are not granted PR. Each phase of this means proving you will leave, and that there are reasons for you to leave Canada, when you are finished your term.

When applying for a student visa, you must be able to demonstrate reasons, willingness, and ability to leave Canada when studies are complete. You do not need to mention a desire to receive PGWP and remain in Canada. Indeed, stating that in an application is a guaranteed refusal.

 

[bongoman]

you are basically encouraging him to lie....

In life it is important to lie strategically.

 

[k.h.p.]

Note that not stating upfront in a study visa application that you hope to get PR is not lying. If you (stupidly) write an assertion that "I will not apply for PGWP as a pathway to PR," then you are lying.

 

[jweekend]

Note that not stating upfront in a study visa application that you hope to get PR is not lying. If you (stupidly) write an assertion that "I will not apply for PGWP as a pathway to PR," then you are lying.

This is correct.

Getting a pgwp can be a Plan B. But your Plan A has to always be to return home. Saying you will not get PGWP is a blatant lie and the visa officers know it well.

You can add all the drama you want but end of the day, a lie will get you nowhere