Non-Express Entry(PNP) Online Applications Gather here

[NewtoCanada1111]

Bruh.. last time I checked this was 181 days

yeah, it is keep on changing..

 

[Akmsb]

Thank you! I submitted a webform. Instead of blank I put “Present”. Hopefully, if they are not satisfied they send sn ADR and not return. I submitted our application in Nov 20 (21 on portal) 2024, still waiting for AOR.

I am also in the same boat left my " to date" blank for current employment and address. Please update me when you have any response on your application

 

[hctefernando]

Any spreadsheet for November AOR mpnp

This is the link to the November NON-EE PNP
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...P_4dsJTt-Py0/edit?gid=327230977#gid=327230977

 

[faithfully_perfect_time]

S

I am also in the same boat left my " to date" blank for current employment and address. Please update me when you have any response on your application

Sure! As of now. No AOR yet
Submitted Nov 21, 2024 on portal.

 

[VenomSnake]

Dear @Miss bee

I hope you are doing well. I want to share my summarized timeline as:
27 Feb 2024: PNP Non-EE application submission to IRCC
12 Jun 2024: AOR
24 Oct 2024: ADR on CV and military rec (start of comprehensive SS I guess)
Complete silence after that

I got my first GCMS notes on 10 March 2025. I got the second one today. I compared them (which are 6 months apart), and not a single character is different. Absoulutly NO update and NO new notes. Even my medical is expired about two months ago and I did not receive any email regarding to that as well. Is it possible that my file is lost somewhere? what should I do?

PVO: Sydney, SVO: Montreal

 

[jaylokhande]

Hello @Miss bee

I hope you are doing well!!

I have applied Non-Express Entry (SINP) PR application under Provincial Nominee Program (PNP) category, on 6th June, 2025 but have not received AOR yet. My IELTS score is expiring on 25th September, 2025 and also I did not have Birth Certificate so for that I have submitted Indian documents like (Aadhar card, Voter card, PAN Card) and Birth Certificate Issued by Indian Embassy in the USA based on the passport.

My questions are

1. Do I need to give IELTS test again and submit report?
2. Will my application rejected due to non-availability of Birth Certificate? What are other documents that can be submitted?

Thank you!!!

 

[Miss bee]

Hello @Miss bee

I hope you are doing well!!

I have applied Non-Express Entry (SINP) PR application under Provincial Nominee Program (PNP) category, on 6th June, 2025 but have not received AOR yet. My IELTS score is expiring on 25th September, 2025 and also I did not have Birth Certificate so for that I have submitted Indian documents like (Aadhar card, Voter card, PAN Card) and Birth Certificate Issued by Indian Embassy in the USA based on the passport.

My questions are

1. Do I need to give IELTS test again and submit report?
2. Will my application rejected due to non-availability of Birth Certificate? What are other documents that can be submitted?

Thank you!!!

For paper-based PR applications (non-Express Entry), IRCC requires proof of language proficiency when you submit the application.

• The IELTS (or CELPIP/TEF/TCF) must be valid (less than 2 years old) on the date IRCC receives your application.
• After that, even if your test expires during processing (which can take over 12–18 months for paper-based PNP PR), you do NOT need to retake it unless IRCC specifically requests updated results.

Since you submitted your PR application on June 6, 2025, your IELTS was still valid then (expiring on September 25, 2025). That means you’ve met the requirement.
You do not need to retake IELTS just because it will expire during processing.

. Birth Certificate Issue for Non-Express Entry PR
IRCC’s rules for civil status documents are strict, but they allow alternative evidence if a birth certificate is not available:
You should provide a “Letter of Explanation” stating why the original birth certificate is unavailable.

• Attach the Birth Certificate issued by the Indian Embassy in the USA (based on your passport).
• Include other government documents with your name, date of birth, and (ideally) your parents’ names. Examples:
  • Aadhar card,
  • Voter card,
  • PAN card,
  • School leaving/10th grade certificate (very commonly accepted by IRCC for Indians),
  • Ration card or family register (if available).
  • IRCC usually prefers a 10th grade certificate or equivalent school record, since it includes both DOB and parent’s name(s).

If you don’t have one, the embassy-issued certificate plus multiple IDs (Aadhar, Voter ID, PAN) can strengthen your case.
Affidavits alone are not accepted by IRCC, but they can be used as supporting documents alongside official IDs.

 

[jaylokhande]

For paper-based PR applications (non-Express Entry), IRCC requires proof of language proficiency when you submit the application.

• The IELTS (or CELPIP/TEF/TCF) must be valid (less than 2 years old) on the date IRCC receives your application.
• After that, even if your test expires during processing (which can take over 12–18 months for paper-based PNP PR), you do NOT need to retake it unless IRCC specifically requests updated results.

Since you submitted your PR application on June 6, 2025, your IELTS was still valid then (expiring on September 25, 2025). That means you’ve met the requirement.
You do not need to retake IELTS just because it will expire during processing.

. Birth Certificate Issue for Non-Express Entry PR
IRCC’s rules for civil status documents are strict, but they allow alternative evidence if a birth certificate is not available:
You should provide a “Letter of Explanation” stating why the original birth certificate is unavailable.

• Attach the Birth Certificate issued by the Indian Embassy in the USA (based on your passport).
• Include other government documents with your name, date of birth, and (ideally) your parents’ names. Examples:
  • Aadhar card,
  • Voter card,
  • PAN card,
  • School leaving/10th grade certificate (very commonly accepted by IRCC for Indians),
  • Ration card or family register (if available).
  • IRCC usually prefers a 10th grade certificate or equivalent school record, since it includes both DOB and parent’s name(s).

If you don’t have one, the embassy-issued certificate plus multiple IDs (Aadhar, Voter ID, PAN) can strengthen your case.
Affidavits alone are not accepted by IRCC, but they can be used as supporting documents alongside official IDs.

Thank you @Miss bee

 

[NewtoCanada1111]

For paper-based PR applications (non-Express Entry), IRCC requires proof of language proficiency when you submit the application.

• The IELTS (or CELPIP/TEF/TCF) must be valid (less than 2 years old) on the date IRCC receives your application.
• After that, even if your test expires during processing (which can take over 12–18 months for paper-based PNP PR), you do NOT need to retake it unless IRCC specifically requests updated results.

Since you submitted your PR application on June 6, 2025, your IELTS was still valid then (expiring on September 25, 2025). That means you’ve met the requirement.
You do not need to retake IELTS just because it will expire during processing.

. Birth Certificate Issue for Non-Express Entry PR
IRCC’s rules for civil status documents are strict, but they allow alternative evidence if a birth certificate is not available:
You should provide a “Letter of Explanation” stating why the original birth certificate is unavailable.

• Attach the Birth Certificate issued by the Indian Embassy in the USA (based on your passport).
• Include other government documents with your name, date of birth, and (ideally) your parents’ names. Examples:
  • Aadhar card,
  • Voter card,
  • PAN card,
  • School leaving/10th grade certificate (very commonly accepted by IRCC for Indians),
  • Ration card or family register (if available).
  • IRCC usually prefers a 10th grade certificate or equivalent school record, since it includes both DOB and parent’s name(s).

If you don’t have one, the embassy-issued certificate plus multiple IDs (Aadhar, Voter ID, PAN) can strengthen your case.
Affidavits alone are not accepted by IRCC, but they can be used as supporting documents alongside official IDs.

Please be very carful with all mandatory docs. Mine was returned due to non-availability of birth certificate. I had put affidavits along with other gov. supporting docs but reason for missing that why I can't provide B.C.
so please provide good explanation and have the same reason (in brief) in your affidavit as well.

 

[Loeloe]

Hello everyone,
When preparing documentation for a spouse (LOE), should we use the first-person pronoun I or the third-person pronoun he?
Thank you!

 

[hisingh]

I have a few questions regarding BOWP
My PNP-Non Express PR file is in processing, got AOR already, but my PNP nomination has expired. My work permit will expire next year. My PNP is employer-restricted. So while applying for BOWP,
1. What documents would I need?
2. Will BOWP be employer-restricted? Would I be able to work part-time at other places on that WP?
3. How much time before should I apply for BOWP before the expiry of my WP?
4. Any other things I should keep in mind?
@Miss bee, please reply if possible.
Thanks

 

[Miss bee]

I have a few questions regarding BOWP
My PNP-Non Express PR file is in processing, got AOR already, but my PNP nomination has expired. My work permit will expire next year. My PNP is employer-restricted. So while applying for BOWP,
1. What documents would I need?
2. Will BOWP be employer-restricted? Would I be able to work part-time at other places on that WP?
3. How much time before should I apply for BOWP before the expiry of my WP?
4. Any other things I should keep in mind?
@Miss bee, please reply if possible.
Thanks

If you have employer restrictions on your nomination, you are not eligible for BOWP. You have to apply for employer specific closed work permit.

 

[Elpop123]

Hi @Miss bee quick question if you dont mind, what does it mean if criminality is in progress in gcms and the due date is 2024 which is not even when i started my application. Thanks!

 

[Miss bee]

Hi @Miss bee quick question if you dont mind, what does it mean if criminality is in progress in gcms and the due date is 2024 which is not even when i started my application. Thanks!

Due Date → The “due date” in GCMS notes is usually an internal system date used for officers to track or remind themselves to follow up. It is not your application deadline, nor does it mean your case will be decided exactly by then. Sometimes the due date can look odd (e.g., in the past or far in the future, even before you applied). That’s because these dates are auto-generated or system-assigned placeholders. They don’t necessarily have significance for your personal timeline.
So, in your case:
“Criminality: In Progress” just means they’re still doing background checks.

• The due date showing 2024 (before your actual application date) is a system artifact and not a problem for your file.

 

[john.sterling]

Dear @Miss bee

I hope you are doing well. I want to share my summarized timeline as:
27 Feb 2024: PNP Non-EE application submission to IRCC
12 Jun 2024: AOR
24 Oct 2024: ADR on CV and military rec (start of comprehensive SS I guess)
Complete silence after that

I got my first GCMS notes on 10 March 2025. I got the second one today. I compared them (which are 6 months apart), and not a single character is different. Absoulutly NO update and NO new notes. Even my medical is expired about two months ago and I did not receive any email regarding to that as well. Is it possible that my file is lost somewhere? what should I do?

PVO: Sydney, SVO: Montreal

We are almost on the same boat, I've been in SS for about 20 months. I contacted IRCC several times trough webforms and MPs. But nobody gave me a meaningful response or timeline.