NOC code mismatch

[Arun Pathak]

Hello All,

I have an issue with my CEC application, which I discovered when I received GCMS notes from ATIP.

CIC has mentioned that I have insufficient documents to support my 2 years for experience in the mentioned NOC 2173.

The issue is that I have received my first WP with NOC 2173, but all the subsequent Work Permit, I received with NOC 2174.
The reference letter that my company has provided and which I provided to CIC according to NOC 2173, as my duties and roles match with 2173.

I have applied in July 2012 and received AOR on 8th August 2012, can some one please suggest me further steps, as when I checked my roles and responsibilities are completely different than NOC 2174, but I have 3 work permits on 2174 and just one on 2173.

Any reply over that will be highly appreciated.

Thanks and Regards,
Arun

 

[Arun Pathak]

Hello All,

Can somebody please reply to my question, as I am not sure what action to take next.
I also don't want my application to rejected.

Thanks,
Arun

 

[noc4012]

Could you please provide more information?

How long did you work on 2173 and how long you worked on 2174 and when did you apply? If you applied this year, and worked on 2173 work permit for at least 1 year in the past 3 years, then it's fine.

Also, please let us know why did your work permit change. Please note that your work must have been authorized - you cannot work in a field if your WP specifies working in another field.

 

[lucky_CA]

You must show to CIC that you had authorization to work under NOC 2173 during the period of your qualifying work experience for CEC. If you are claiming in your application that you have gained your work experience under NOC 2173 while your work permit restrict you to work on NOC 2174 that It could be a problem. I think your period of work experience under NOC 2173 while holding a work permit for NOC 2173 will only be count if you are claiming your NOC as 2173 in the CEC application.

However, as mentioned in previous post, in the past 3 years if you have performed work under NOC 2173 with an work permit that allows you to work on NOC 2173, then you should be fine.

 

[Arun Pathak]

Hello All,

Thank you so much for attention and reply.

I have applied in July 2012, and received AOR on 08th August 2012.

I have my initial WP with NOC 2173 for 6 months in 2010, but after that all my work permits comes with 2174.

I am not sure why my company had applied my Work Permit on different NOC, as my duties starting from the first day of my assignment remained the same.

My company has provided me the letter for 2 years of experience which completely conform with NOC 2173 which I sent to CIC.

In a note CIC have written that the letter from Company conform with the NOC 2173, but in the next line they have written that there are in sufficient document supporting my experience in NOC 2173.

As I am not performing any activity mentioned in NOC 2174, please suggest me what should I do, before CIC take any non welcoming decision on my application.

All the information that I mentioned I got that through GCMS notes.

Thanks and Regards,
Arun

 

[random123]

Arun, what NOC did you use to apply (i.e what NOC did you identify on schedule 008. 2174 or 2173)?

"Insufficient evidence" could mean missing t4 or NOA...did you provide these? Did your T4s accurately reflect your income at this NOC, per your LMO (if you needed one)?

Hello All,

Thank you so much for attention and reply.

I have applied in July 2012, and received AOR on 08th August 2012.

I have my initial WP with NOC 2173 for 6 months in 2010, but after that all my work permits comes with 2174.

I am not sure why my company had applied my Work Permit on different NOC, as my duties starting from the first day of my assignment remained the same.

My company has provided me the letter for 2 years of experience which completely conform with NOC 2173 which I sent to CIC.

In a note CIC have written that the letter from Company conform with the NOC 2173, but in the next line they have written that there are in sufficient document supporting my experience in NOC 2173.

As I am not performing any activity mentioned in NOC 2174, please suggest me what should I do, before CIC take any non welcoming decision on my application.

All the information that I mentioned I got that through GCMS notes.

Thanks and Regards,
Arun

 

[Arun Pathak]

Hi,

I have applied under NOC 2173, and provided all the T4 forms available.

As I am Intra Company transfer for I don't have any LMO.

Thanks and Regards,
Arun

 

[jes_ON]

Was your letter written by a supervisor/manager in the Canadian branch of the company?

 

[Arun Pathak]

Hello,

Yes the letter was written on Companies letter head, and it was signed by our HR Head.
It address the Immigration Department of Canada and mentioned my roles and responsibility.

Thanks and Regards,
Arun

 

[random123]

is it a big or small company?

Hello,

Yes the letter was written on Companies letter head, and it was signed by our HR Head.
It address the Immigration Department of Canada and mentioned my roles and responsibility.

Thanks and Regards,
Arun

 

[Arun Pathak]

Hello,

Its one the top 5 IT company, is that matter in any sense.

Thanks and Regards,
Arun

 

[kevin220]

Hello All,

I have an issue with my CEC application, which I discovered when I received GCMS notes from ATIP.

CIC has mentioned that I have insufficient documents to support my 2 years for experience in the mentioned NOC 2173.

The issue is that I have received my first WP with NOC 2173, but all the subsequent Work Permit, I received with NOC 2174.
The reference letter that my company has provided and which I provided to CIC according to NOC 2173, as my duties and roles match with 2173.

I have applied in July 2012 and received AOR on 8th August 2012, can some one please suggest me further steps, as when I checked my roles and responsibilities are completely different than NOC 2174, but I have 3 work permits on 2174 and just one on 2173.

Any reply over that will be highly appreciated.

Thanks and Regards,
Arun

This is a bit confusing. If I understand correctly, you had a work permit with NOC 2173 for 6 months and the rest all were with NOC 2174. However your company mentioned only 2173 duties in the letter.
Now CIC is not satisfied with the documents received for NOC 2173. It would have made sense if NOC CIC identified was 2174 since your reference letter don't mention 2174 duties.
If CIC really meant 2173 then I think the document they are referring to are the work permits. You work permit for NOC 2173 is just for 6 months and for rest of the period you should have done duties corresponding to NOC 2174. Even though you mention that you did the same duties, all subsequent work permits (NOC 2174) say otherwise.
I myself had 3 NOCs in 3 years and my reference letter had the duration and duties mentioned for each NOCs in the letter. Your reference letter should have had the same details.

This is a very tricky situation since you mentioned that you don't perform any of the duties mentioned in NOC 2174. Even if you send in a new reference letter, CIC most likely will not accept it since there will be new duties in the letter for the same period of time which were not identified before. Wish I could give you a good suggestion, but I can't think of any. Hope the second reviewer of your application will find it fine and you will clear. I have seen it for another member here. Best of luck.

 

[Arun Pathak]

Hi Kevin,

Thank you so much for your time and reply.

I will update the forum once I get some response or with my any further action.

Thanks and Regards,
Arun

 

[niceguy24]

I am also in same boat.
My first WP indicates NOC 2173, which was for 2 years. Second WP mentions 2174, completed 9 months on this.
My ref letter has role as IT Professional, but does not have job responsibilities.My company does not mention it on Ref letter My actual work is kind of includes job responsibilities from both NOCs.

I have not yet submitted my application, but planning for it very soon. Can someone please let me know which NOC I should mention on my application ?

@Arun, did you find answer on this ? Please help.

 

[kevin220]

I am also in same boat.
My first WP indicates NOC 2173, which was for 2 years. Second WP mentions 2174, completed 9 months on this.
My ref letter has role as IT Professional, but does not have job responsibilities.My company does not mention it on Ref letter My actual work is kind of includes job responsibilities from both NOCs.

I have not yet submitted my application, but planning for it very soon. Can someone please let me know which NOC I should mention on my application ?

@ Arun, did you find answer on this ? Please help.

Ideally you should have both NOC duties and the duration identified in your reference letter. If you don't, your experience for that period will not be counted against qualifying experience.
if you are planning to apply with a reference letter which does not highlight your duties and responsibilities, you are almost certain to receive a rejection.
Try to get a letter from your company or else you will most likely end up wasting your time and money.