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NOC : 1122 Professional Occupations in Business Services to Management

visaexpert

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qorax said:
Purely as per me... 'coz it's too early to judge...
If u r working in a larger company, in their Marketing Dept, U cannot. If u r working in an Ad Agency, U can.
What the advertising agency do?
How they do the business?
Who are the clients of advertising agencies?

Can you please help me to provide some web link of advertising agency, I want to know what they do.

http://www.nationaladagency.in/index.html

http://www.indiantelevision.com/industryresources/adagencies/top50_adagencies.htm
 

echoes1978

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Since financial managers are kicked out from the list, what do you think what kind of financial managers duty could be connected with NOC 1122?
 

echoes1978

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One more question!
Do you think that occupational health and safety manager who is working in human resources department could apply under this category of NOC 1122?
 

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Is there anyone who have saved a copy of describing NOC 1111? Please post your copy here! So all of us can compare old NOC 1111 and new NOC 1122. Thank you!
 

rupeshhari

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I hope this helps. Here is 1122

Management consultants perform some or all of the following duties:

* Analyze and provide advice on the managerial methods and organization of a public or private sector establishment
* Conduct research to determine efficiency and effectiveness of managerial policies and programs
* Conduct assessments and propose improvements to methods, systems and procedures in areas such as operations, human resources, records management and communications
* Conduct quality audits and develop quality management and quality assurance standards for ISO (International Organization for Standardization) registration
* Plan the reorganization of the operations of an establishment
* May supervise contracted researchers or clerical staff.

Advertising and promotion consultants perform some or all of the following duties:

* Assess characteristics of products or services to be promoted and advise on the advertising needs of an establishment
* Advise clients on advertising or sales promotion strategies
* Develop and implement advertising campaigns appropriate for print or electronic media.
 

rupeshhari

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App. Filed.......
Dec 2008 to CIO
Doc's Request.
Jan 2009
AOR Received.
Feb 2009 from VO
IELTS Request
Didn't do IELTS.
File Transfer...
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Med's Request
July 2010 with RPRF and another PCC.
Med's Done....
Meds - September 2010. PCC - Late Oct 2010
Interview........
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Passport Req..
Early November 2010
VISA ISSUED...
December 2010 - Exactly days shy of 2 years since I sent in my application to CIO.
LANDED..........
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Here is 1111

Financial auditors perform some or all of the following duties:

* Examine and analyze journal and ledger entries, bank statements, inventories, expenditures, tax returns and other accounting and financial records, documents and systems of an individual, department, company or other establishment to ensure financial recording accuracy and compliance with established accounting standards, procedures and internal controls
* Prepare detailed reports on audit findings and make recommendations to improve individual or establishment's accounting and management practices
* Conduct field audits of businesses to ensure compliance with provisions of the Income Tax Act, Canadian Business Corporations Act or other statutory requirements
* May supervise other auditors or professionals in charge of accounting within client's establishment.

Accountants perform some or all of the following duties:

* Plan, set up and administer accounting systems and prepare financial information for an individual, department, company or other establishment
* Examine accounting records and prepare financial statements and reports
* Develop and maintain cost finding, reporting and internal control procedures
* Examine financial accounts and records and prepare income tax returns from accounting records
* Analyze financial statements and reports and provide financial, business and tax advice
* May act as a trustee in bankruptcy proceedings
* May supervise and train articling students, other accountants or administrative technicians.
 

rupeshhari

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1122 for me sounds like consultants within and outside the organisation. They do analysis, not accounting analysis. An accountant, engineer, etc could work as a management consultant. Also this NOC includes those working for advertising agencies consulting on how to market and advertise a product.

1111 for me sounds more like accountants and auditors. In most countries, only an accounting graduate can work as an accountant.

Caveat - i am no expert so this is just my thoughts. I did have 1122 in my old application.
 

perveen

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Dear Friends,

I would like to ask you that I am working in an food production company as Management Representative of my company and recently i have developed food and quality management system for my company and preparing them to apply for ISO (International Organization for Standardization)22000 registration.Most of the job responsibilties are matched with this categeroy.Can I apply for canadian immigration under this NOC1122
 

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hello seniors,

if someone is working as a service manager in a sugar co. and somewhat helps in marketing support with the markeing head,
what will be the duties you think will go with new code 1122 under job title service manager - marketing support in 1122.

more to this.. the job duties given in
Business Development Officers and Marketing Researchers and Consultants (4163)
matches with the profile of service manager - support.

will that be okay to add those duties from code 4163 to match with 1122 as i do not see anything relating to service manager - marketing support.

or the duties in the main 1122 confuse me. how do i relate both of them.

all seniors including pls reply soon.
 

nadahero

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Dear All,
I was planning to apply next week. Would you kindly advise whether I can fit for this category or not? Here are my job duties:

Projects' Coordinator:
- Responsible for the management of four active Technology Incubators.
- Providing business consultancy for 21 IT start-up companies.
- Responsible for organizing trainings for 21 start-up incubated companies.
- Supporting 200 young entrepreneurs in the field of mobile applications development through business and marketing consultation, providing trainings and assisting in evaluating their business idea.
- Assisting in business plan formulation and business process structuring for 21 start-up companies.
- Following up business plans and financial budgets of incubated companies.
- Responsible for organizing the yearly ICT Business Plan Competition.
- Managing resources and facilities provided for incubated companies.


Thanks all
 

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hey_rigky said:
hello seniors,

if someone is working as a service manager in a sugar co. and somewhat helps in marketing support with the markeing head,
what will be the duties you think will go with new code 1122 under job title service manager - marketing support in 1122.

more to this.. the job duties given in
Business Development Officers and Marketing Researchers and Consultants (4163)
matches with the profile of service manager - support.

will that be okay to add those duties from code 4163 to match with 1122 as i do not see anything relating to service manager - marketing support.






Pls reply to my query.........
or the duties in the main 1122 confuse me. how do i relate both of them.

all seniors including pls reply soon.
 

visaexpert

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qorax said:
Two things happened here (with the new set of NOCs).
1. If u see the HRSDC list, Major Group-11 has 2 categories with 6 NOCs. They denied the 1st 5 & chose to select only the last, in Cat-112; HR & BSP. This is aimed purely for Business Consultants, the Management Advisors who'd deal with either BPR (Business Process ReEngineering, including ISO) or Advertising & Promotion. The IT Development, or Outsourcing, or Advisory Assistance, has deliberately been kept out.
U may like to refer http://www5.hrsdc.gc.ca/NOC/English/NOC/2006/Occupations.aspx?val=1

Qorax
I have still confusion about the NOC 1122. Our company also work for marketing and advertising of other clients and companies. In past, I have worked as a Marketing and advertising Specialist. We also provide placement services to other companies requirement.

my or our companies Job duties as follows (for advertising services)

-find the clients and discuss them about the advantage of website and If agree, prepare web for them and advertise their company.
-designing business card for the other companies
-design others companies invitation cards for special occasions
-design other company's hording for marketing and advertise them banner on Auto rickshaw, Bus, Tricycle and other vehicle.
-Send bulk Sms to mobile number of entire city for advertise of particular company.
-Advertise other companies on Internet with the help of different websites
-design calenders and diary for other company's working profiles
-design other companies banner and public on kiosk (middle of the road on street light)
-creating presentation for seminar or intro of different companies requirement
-public advertisement in electronic media (internet only)
-designing brochure, pemplete, hording, banners etc to publish on print media
-creating animation in Flash and 3D Max with Fireworks to make complete company profile
-print brochures in bulk and distribute them door to door, we reach every door of the every street of the city.
-advertise company or product by wall painting for long advertise in single investment
-some other related works

I don't know how to write job duties, but I want to know whether above job duties belong to NOC 1122 or not


visaexpert said:
Thanks to reply,

I am from the company, doing work in

1. Software Development
2. Computer Training
3. Placement Services

I am main person of the company and all other staff are working under me, I am doing advertising, running company, doing all the financial transactions.

Designations can be show as Manager, Director, Company Head, Analyst, Consultant, Supervisor etc.

Can I apply in this NOC?
 

mrshah30

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visaexpert said:
Yes, You can qualify if you have below duties for advertising consultant only...

Advertising and promotion consultants perform some or all of the following duties:

* Assess characteristics of products or services to be promoted and advise on the advertising needs of an establishment
* Advise clients on advertising or sales promotion strategies
* Develop and implement advertising campaigns appropriate for print or electronic media.


But you can not copy the same job duties from CIC web site, there are only 3 sentences, how can you describe your job duties in 10 to 20 sentences.

Can you please write your job duties here for advertisement consultants?
Hi visa expert yes I am trying to sort out this issue I will post it out after sorting out from my company manager that whether he could help me or not.
 

mrshah30

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Maaties said:
My uneducated opinion is no. So you should wait for others to answer.
Software development is not the main focus of this NOC.
Neither is computer training.

If your company is doing consulting to other company on how to advertise or product analysis, etc, then you could fit into this. But remember this is not for managers but those who advice the managers, i.e., consultants and analysts.

Then again, as I said, this is my uneducated opinion.
Hi maaties..hru..i need ur assisstance actually I work in a export firm which manufactures the sports equipment for abroad clients i have perfomred the duties like advertising for print or electronic media, preparing cd catalogues, fullfill the advertising needs on the exhibitions for the company but i am confused that This job will be suitable according to the nature of the company for the eyes of the immigration authorities..
Plz advise
mrshah