Name Split in Passport, COPR and PR Card

[borgdrone]

It appears, IRCC does not follow a single process for everyone

I had an issue of having my full name in the Given name field of my foreign password
ie Given Name - John Doe; Surname - BLANK

The PR card has also been created based on this

1. I first got my foreign Passport renewed and corrected
2. When I tried to update my driving license, service Ontario would not accept my foreign passport and demanded to see a name change certificate before they would change my name on my driver's license
3. I tried updating my PR card, put in an application, wrote a letter of explanation. submitted both my old and new foreign passport copies. IRCC demanded I submit a name change certificate within 30 days

I don't know what I am going to do. The process is not consistent with IRCC.

 

[armoured]

I don't know what I am going to do. The process is not consistent with IRCC.

Three options:
1) try again with Service Ontario, including at a different location. You might want to do this after changing as much 'private' stuff as you can - bank, utilities, etc - and showing that you are using your name as in foreign passport consistently - everywhere.* [This may be slightly complicated in that first/last doesn't show up as clearly on mailing]

2) If you have any kind of form or documentation showing the basis for changing name in foreign passport, include that.

3) Or just go and do a change of name. It'll take several months, but it'll be foolproof.

* You'd be kind-of evoking an old principle of common law, which is that your name is the name you use. They shouldn't refuse on this basis. But they may be reluctant. You may have to show your work (i.e. documents). You may have to ask to speak to a supervisor or manager.

[This old common law principle is a bit archaic and no clear lines about when it works. Because 'naming' (name changes, civil registries and the like) are provincial things, IRCC will avoid taking any steps until you have the provincial ID.]

 

[borgdrone]

Three options:
1) try again with Service Ontario, including at a different location. You might want to do this after changing as much 'private' stuff as you can - bank, utilities, etc - and showing that you are using your name as in foreign passport consistently - everywhere.* [This may be slightly complicated in that first/last doesn't show up as clearly on mailing]

2) If you have any kind of form or documentation showing the basis for changing name in foreign passport, include that.

3) Or just go and do a change of name. It'll take several months, but it'll be foolproof.

* You'd be kind-of evoking an old principle of common law, which is that your name is the name you use. They shouldn't refuse on this basis. But they may be reluctant. You may have to show your work (i.e. documents). You may have to ask to speak to a supervisor or manager.

[This old common law principle is a bit archaic and no clear lines about when it works. Because 'naming' (name changes, civil registries and the like) are provincial things, IRCC will avoid taking any steps until you have the provincial ID.]

Thanks for the advise

1. I tried in two different service Ontario locations to get the driving license. They refuse to budge. They want something from IRCC
2. Tried to update my PR card. IRCC wants a change of name document. It is odd that they used my original foreign passport as the basis for my name on the PR card and they now wont use the same foreign passport to update my name
3. I wanted to make a citizenship application. If I do that and put my corrected name, IRCC might again ask me for a name of change certificate and give me 30 days to submit one. I would be in a soup if that happens as it would take way more than 30 days to get one.

It appears that they don't have a consistent defined process to deal with this. It all depends on the officer looking at this case.

 

[armoured]

1. I tried in two different service Ontario locations to get the driving license. They refuse to budge. They want something from IRCC

Did you have documents from others, such as banks, etc., as I mentioned?

2. Tried to update my PR card. IRCC wants a change of name document. It is odd that they used my original foreign passport as the basis for my name on the PR card and they now wont use the same foreign passport to update my name

Did you have a document, as I wrote, that showed the basis upon which your home country issued the passport under a different name? I.e. is there ANY type of document that shows you changed your name?

3. I wanted to make a citizenship application. If I do that and put my corrected name, IRCC might again ask me for a name of change certificate and give me 30 days to submit one. I would be in a soup if that happens as it would take way more than 30 days to get one.

I'm not sure I understand what you wrote. Submit your citizenship application using current PR card, do official change of name process and certificate, and use that after you get citizenship certificate to get passport in new name. (You don't really ever need to change the citizenship certificate after that - passport serves for everything of importance - but you can if you wish). Just be sure to do it in the precise order of getting the passport with new name first.

It appears that they don't have a consistent defined process to deal with this. It all depends on the officer looking at this case.

They have a defined process. You have to show a legal document attesting to change of name. You don't seem to have one.

If it's any comfort - as a side note - I have an acquaintance who has two passports. Married using passport of the country he resided in, then moved to a neighbouring country. To get his spouse a visitor's visa to the neighbouring country of his other passport (Schengen/non-Schengen EU countries but details not important), the visa section of that country demanded he produce an official document stating that the person who married using passport A is the same person mentioned on passport B.

Well, there's no country in the world (that I'm aware of) that will issue such a document; you'd probably have to go to court to get a judge to 'prove' it, and that only if you had a case in which to plead it. And they wouldn't accept an affidavit of any sort. Nor his straightforward statements like 'the photographs are identical and I'm 2m tall, 125kg and a very distinct complexion!' He had to escalate the matter a few times to get someone to see common sense.

Your case is easy, it'll just take time.