thank you for responding to me ....see the thing is he did take his pre cartilla.... and when he took to the PGR. he was told that they were no longer taking the pre cartilla but they need the actual cartilla.. can anyone tell me if in the last month or so you have taking the pre cartilla to the PGR, because me and my husband took it in the 16 of january of this year and we were told that they were no longer assepting the pre cartilla. please tell me if you have been successful and actually gotten yours process...... please