Mexico

[Nessa]

Really?? Thats great.. did you write "hold for pickup on it"? I guess i need to write that in spanish?
I just worry they might open the envelope if they are confused..

I don´t remember exactly but I think there was a box where you just check that option.

 

[OhCanadiana]

haha okay sure!! im not near a scanner but i will type out what it says! because i really want to know


CONSTANCIA DE NO ANTECEDENTES PENALES
procuraduria General de Justicia

PROCURADURIA GENERAL DE JUSTICIA DEL ESTADO DE PUEBLA

DIRECCION DE SERVICIOS PERICIALES

A QUIEN CORRESPONDA:
con fundamento en el capitulo x, articulo 19, fraccion VI del reglamento de la Ley Organica de la procuraduria General de Justicia del estado, se informa que ha quedado identificado el C. xxx xxx xxx y se HACE CONSTAR que con esta fecha NO cuenta con registro de antecedente penal despues de habler realizado busqueda nominal en los archivos de esta institution, segun datos verificados por la C. xxx xxx xxx, operadora del sistema AFIS dependiente de esta Direccion.

also there is a barcode in the top left corner and some numbers in the top right corner
and my husbands picture is on the left hand side with a stamp under it. (and to get this he needed black and white pictures, finger prints, and a carta poder for his mother to get it for him)

thankss

And given -
PROCURADURIA GENERAL DE JUSTICIA DEL ESTADO DE PUEBLA

it is the State of Puebla police certificate issued by the State of Puebla PGJ (http://www.pgj.pue.gob.mx/)

 

[LeisaP]

And given -
PROCURADURIA GENERAL DE JUSTICIA DEL ESTADO DE PUEBLA

it is the State of Puebla police certificate issued by the State of Puebla PGR (http://www.pgj.pue.gob.mx/)

but my husband has never lived in puebla :-\
his mom just moved here so she got a police check from the closest office.

 

[LeisaP]

so this is only a police check for the state of puebla. even though he has never lived there?

 

[LeisaP]

Also another question
we are going to send in more evidence,
does it matter if the pictures are in black and white instead of color?

 

[Nessa]

so this is only a police check for the state of puebla. even though he has never lived there?

It kind of looks like the PGR...he wouldn´t have to live in Puebla to get it...but I don´t understand how she got it without the letter!

Also the pictures for the PGR are in colour, and yu said yours was in black and white...

Maybe it´s a completely different police check other than the SSP, PGR, or state ones?

 

[LeisaP]

It kind of looks like the PGR...he wouldn´t have to live in Puebla to get it...but I don´t understand how she got it without the letter!

Also the pictures for the PGR are in colour, and yu said yours was in black and white...

Maybe it´s a completely different police check other than the SSP, PGR, or state ones?

sorry no!.
i just asked my husband he said the pictures were in color. white background with a black shirt. and his mom confirmed it she had an extra picture laying around. so yes the pictures were in color.

so this could be a PGR.. but we have no idea how we got our hands on it without a letter. maybe because he was living in canada when we requested it?? i really have no idea. but if this is a PGR that might be a reason why they didnt send us an AOR with PGR requests??

 

[OhCanadiana]

Let me try to help sort this out:

but my husband has never lived in puebla :-\
his mom just moved here so she got a police check from the closest office.

Just because he didn't live there doesn't mean she can't get a police check from there. For example, you could mail your prints to a state in the US that you've never been in to ask for a background check and get it mailed back to you. It would likely be clear since you never were there but it would be a police certificate.

I think you are getting yourself confused between the various entities since part of their name is similar. The national certificate they will ask for (that we refer to PGR certificate) is issued by the Procuraduria General de la República (http://www.pgr.gob.mx/Servicios/Constancia/antecedentes%20registrales.asp), the one she got is from a state entity: the Procuraduría General de Justicia de Puebla (http://www.pgj.pue.gob.mx/) according to the header in your post above:

PROCURADURIA GENERAL DE JUSTICIA DEL ESTADO DE PUEBLA

Let me give you an parallel example in English - in the US, you have the FBI and there are also SBI (State Bureaus of Investigation) ... they both have Bureau of Investigation in their name because the state one (SBI) is the state's equivalent to the federal one (FBI) but they are different entities. In other words, the SBIs are their own entities ... not offices of the FBI which just happen to be located in the state (which also exist).

She got a certificate from the Puebla State "SBI" whereas you will need the "FBI" certificate.

 

[LeisaP]

Let me try to help sort this out:

Just because he didn't live there doesn't mean she can't get a police check from there, right? For example, you could mail your prints to a state in the US that you've never been in to ask for a background check and get it mailed back to you. It would likely be clear since you never were there but it would be some form of police certificate.

I think you are getting yourself confused, LeisaP. The national certificate they will ask for (that we refer to PGR certificate) is issued by the Procuraduria General de la República (http://www.pgr.gob.mx/Servicios/Constancia/antecedentes%20registrales.asp), the one she got is from a state entity: the Procuraduría General de Justicia de Puebla (http://www.pgj.pue.gob.mx/) according to the header in your post above:

Let me give you an example in English - in the US, you have the FBI and then SBI ... they both have Bureau of Investigation in their name because the state one (SBI) is the state's equivalent to the federal one (FBI) but they are different entities. In other words, the SBI's (list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_bureau_of_investigation) are their own entities ... not state offices of the FBI (which also exist).

so in other words this police certificate was a waste of time and money.
not surprising in mexico though.

well anyways the certificate we got is from march 2011. so i believe either way it would be expired. because usually they only last 12 months.

so were gunna have to get a new one either way. :-\


but why havent they asked for our PGR yet. dont most people get the request as the first thing with the AOR?

 

[OhCanadiana]

so in other words this police certificate was a waste of time and money.
not surprising in mexico though.

well anyways the certificate we got is from march 2011. so i believe either way it would be expired. because usually they only last 12 months.

so were gunna have to get a new one either way. :-\


but why havent they asked for our PGR yet. dont most people get the request as the first thing with the AOR?

Actually, you can share the blame between CIC and miscommunication for the confusion. Mexico is just an innocent bystander

At the time you applied (January of this year) CIC required state police certificates from every state he had lived in after he turned 18.

Sounds like your husband and your MIL got and sent them a police certificate, but not from a state he lived in.

The good news is you won't need to get the state certificates from the states he lived in since earlier this year CIC changed their policy and no longer require state certificates but instead request the SSP one (in lieu of the state ones).

There has been no change to the PGR requirement. They will send you an original letter on Embassy letterhead to submit to the PGR once they've reviewed the file (usually closer to the PPR so it doesn't expire). On the AOR, AFAIK, they just say this will be coming.

 

[LeisaP]

Actually, you can share the blame between CIC and miscommunication for the confusion. Mexico is just an innocent bystander

At the time you applied (January of this year) CIC required state police certificates from every state he had lived in after he turned 18.

Sounds like your husband and your MIL got and sent them a police certificate, but not from a state he lived in.

The good news is you won't need to get the state certificates from the states he lived in since earlier this year CIC changed their policy and no longer require state certificates but instead request the SSP one (in lieu of the state ones).

There has been no change to the PGR requirement. They will send you an original letter on Embassy letterhead to submit to the PGR once they've reviewed the file (usually closer to the PPR so it doesn't expire). On the AOR, AFAIK, they just say this will be coming.

oo okay,

yeah we will get the ssp next week. and send it in.
okay i was under the impression the AOR and PGR request came together. but thats good to know it doesnt come till later on. thats a relief.
thanks

 

[LeisaP]

also
how do we get this ??
Cartilla del Servicio Militar Nacional, o en su caso, constancia de aplazamiento de la incorporación al activo (para varones mexicanos).

my husband is only 26. so it was never mandatory for him to do military service.
so how do we get this thing to say hes "postponeing" it or didnt do it.

i was looking and you need it for PGR. so does anyone know how we get this? or where to go?

thanks

 

[TSauretBaxter]

also
how do we get this ??
Cartilla del Servicio Militar Nacional, o en su caso, constancia de aplazamiento de la incorporación al activo (para varones mexicanos).

my husband is only 26. so it was never mandatory for him to do military service.
so how do we get this thing to say hes "postponeing" it or didnt do it.

i was looking and you need it for PGR. so does anyone know how we get this? or where to go?

thanks

The military paper is something everyone has regardless if they served in the military. I believe they get it at 18. Are you sure your husband doesn't have this?

 

[LeisaP]

The military paper is something everyone has regardless if they served in the military. I believe they get it at 18. Are you sure your husband doesn't have this?

no
he doesnt have it. and neither does his mom in his documents.
he never recieved and he doesnt really know what it is.
he was googleing how to get it online. but i dont think he found anything. hes gunna ask around to his stepdad and stuff.

 

[TSauretBaxter]

no
he doesnt have it. and neither does his mom in his documents.
he never recieved and he doesnt really know what it is.
he was googleing how to get it online. but i dont think he found anything. hes gunna ask around to his stepdad and stuff.

There is a military office in every state. My husband says its best to do it in the state you're born if possible. I would suggest going there first to inquire and ask for the requirements.. you'll need birth cert.. photos etc.