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eog123

Full Member
May 25, 2023
27
23
Category........
FSW
No update yet.

Applicants with all 4 parameters (medicals, biometrics, eligibility and background verification) complete often have COPR number generated. Mine hasn't.

Also, my GCkey still has "We are processing your background check". No changes in the final decision too. This is quite unusual tho.
Hopefully this week
 

Thermo

Star Member
Jun 1, 2023
53
28
No update yet.

Applicants with all 4 parameters (medicals, biometrics, eligibility and background verification) complete often have COPR number generated. Mine hasn't.

Also, my GCkey still has "We are processing your background check". No changes in the final decision too. This is quite unusual tho.
Mine is the same as yours
 

priyatushar

Newbie
Jul 14, 2023
7
0
I did as you suggested, and asked them for the code. Lets see what happens
Finally, I am in the tracker @iSaidGoodDay
Here are my details


CEC - Inland (Applying along with Spouse)
ITA - 29-Mar-23
Application Submitted: 2-May-23
AOR - 2-May-23
Biometrics: Did it back in August 2021 for my work permit. Currently application shows biometrics number, but in the tracker it shows "In Progress"
Medical: Completed on 19 June
Background Check: In Progress
Eligibility: Not started

Any guess when can I expect COPR, considering all goes well.
 

iSaidGoodDay

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Feb 3, 2023
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Finally, I am in the tracker @iSaidGoodDay
Here are my details


CEC - Inland (Applying along with Spouse)
ITA - 29-Mar-23
Application Submitted: 2-May-23
AOR - 2-May-23
Biometrics: Did it back in August 2021 for my work permit. Currently application shows biometrics number, but in the tracker it shows "In Progress"
Medical: Completed on 19 June
Background Check: In Progress
Eligibility: Not started

Any guess when can I expect COPR, considering all goes well.
I guess, it all depends on how soon you get all completed and then you'll have to wait for the portal email. Should be 1-3 months.
 

nishkers

Full Member
Feb 18, 2021
47
38
All complete with no COPR details and No Final Decision is a common issue now. Mostly those with AORs from early April to early May are experiencing this.

Despite the lack of movement they continue to send more files to RROC
 
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iSaidGoodDay

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All complete with no COPR details and No Final Decision is a common issue now. Mostly those with AORs from early April to early May are experiencing this.

Despite the lack of movement they continue to send more files to RROC
RROC has PACE groups that do their part in NOC specific assessments, localization support, etc.

Before PR tracker, an application with all completed used to sit in a queue for long time due to NOC, language, etc - just that we never saw it in those cases(as there was no PR tracker). We've seen GCMS notes where this was the case(all completed, no PPR/RFV/portal). What we don't know is "why", could it be that the final approval takes time at RROC due to resource issues for localization/NOC, etc or simply there's a queue of approvals to ensure VOs aren't overflowing with approval requests.

If you look at the confirmation bias in this forum, practically every VO has been called slow (Montreal, Sidney, CPC-Ottawa, etc). When in reality all of those have been proven to be fast and slow at the same time.

Think about it, IRCC Delhi has a KPI of 27 PR applications/week per contractor iirc, it would make less sense to send someone an approval email and hog their passport at IRCC Delhi for months while they wait processing.

Again, all of these are just theories and are completely baseless as long as we don't hear it from an immigration lawyer or IRCC itself. Otoh, from the lawyers that I spoke to have been very shy of discussing this as they understand that IRCC at the end is going to stick to their SLAs and it should be acceptable.
 

femi_kan

Star Member
Mar 7, 2023
96
38
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
20012
AOR Received.
March 29
RROC has PACE groups that do their part in NOC specific assessments, localization support, etc.

Before PR tracker, an application with all completed used to sit in a queue for long time due to NOC, language, etc - just that we never saw it in those cases(as there was no PR tracker). We've seen GCMS notes where this was the case(all completed, no PPR/RFV/portal). What we don't know is "why", could it be that the final approval takes time at RROC due to resource issues for localization/NOC, etc or simply there's a queue of approvals to ensure VOs aren't overflowing with approval requests.

If you look at the confirmation bias in this forum, practically every VO has been called slow (Montreal, Sidney, CPC-Ottawa, etc). When in reality all of those have been proven to be fast and slow at the same time.

Think about it, IRCC Delhi has a KPI of 27 PR applications/week per contractor iirc, it would make less sense to send someone an approval email and hog their passport at IRCC Delhi for months while they wait processing.

Again, all of these are just theories and are completely baseless as long as we don't hear it from an immigration lawyer or IRCC itself. Otoh, from the lawyers that I spoke to have been very shy of discussing this as they understand that IRCC at the end is going to stick to their SLAs and it should be acceptable.

If there's a passport hogging issue, how come other VOs are finalizing and sending out PPRs? I have checked past threads of applicants who had their files at RROC as far back as 2021 and I can tell you this is a RROC problem.

I am still trying to phone IRCC on this and actually confirm if that is my VO, as I have all the parameters completed with no show.
 

nishkers

Full Member
Feb 18, 2021
47
38
RROC has PACE groups that do their part in NOC specific assessments, localization support, etc.

Before PR tracker, an application with all completed used to sit in a queue for long time due to NOC, language, etc - just that we never saw it in those cases(as there was no PR tracker). We've seen GCMS notes where this was the case(all completed, no PPR/RFV/portal). What we don't know is "why", could it be that the final approval takes time at RROC due to resource issues for localization/NOC, etc or simply there's a queue of approvals to ensure VOs aren't overflowing with approval requests.

If you look at the confirmation bias in this forum, practically every VO has been called slow (Montreal, Sidney, CPC-Ottawa, etc). When in reality all of those have been proven to be fast and slow at the same time.

Think about it, IRCC Delhi has a KPI of 27 PR applications/week per contractor iirc, it would make less sense to send someone an approval email and hog their passport at IRCC Delhi for months while they wait processing.

Again, all of these are just theories and are completely baseless as long as we don't hear it from an immigration lawyer or IRCC itself. Otoh, from the lawyers that I spoke to have been very shy of discussing this as they understand that IRCC at the end is going to stick to their SLAs and it should be acceptable.
I completely understand the fact that we can now SEE the gap between all complete and RFV is part of the reason and I agree that I've seen even Etobicoke people complaining when their file goes over 45 days.

But when all the data available says that RROC hasn't touched an application since mid May, the speculation is warranted. Especially seeing as this is a virtual office.
 

iSaidGoodDay

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Feb 3, 2023
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If there's a passport hogging issue, how come other VOs are finalizing and sending out PPRs? I have checked past threads of applicants who had their files at RROC as far back as 2021 and I can tell you this is a RROC problem.

I am still trying to phone IRCC on this and actually confirm if that is my VO, as I have all the parameters completed with no show.
So the RROC complaints you see in 2021 has more to do with COVID as RROC only has one PACE group active at that time. All other resource centres were shut down and RROC was in each and every GCMS notes. There are many users on this forum who got their PPRs in 24 hours after being sent to RROC this year too.

Helpful to know that other VOs likely don't have NOC specific, localisation resources, etc. When I talked about passport hogging theory, that was more about the queue at your final VO that stamps your passport. RROC doesn't stamp passports.
 

c.g.

Newbie
Jul 17, 2023
4
6
Sure here it is:

  1. 0: {dateCreated: '2023-05-28T00:00:00.000Z', dateLoaded: '2023-07-10T15:00:32.030Z', key: 'INITIAL'}
  2. 1: {actStatus: 33, actType: 3, dateCreated: '2023-06-20T18:31:49.000Z', dateLoaded: '2023-07-10T15:00:32.030Z', key: 'Medical'}
  3. 2: {actStatus: 33, actType: 1, dateCreated: '2023-07-09T12:52:17.000Z', dateLoaded: '2023-07-10T15:00:32.030Z', key: 'Security'}
  4. 3: {dateCreated: '2023-06-20T00:00:00.000Z', dateLoaded: '2023-06-21T15:00:28.140Z', key: 'IMM5756'}
  5. 4: {dateCreated: '2023-05-28T00:00:00.000Z', dateLoaded: '2023-05-29T15:00:29.353Z', key: 'IMM5794'}
  6. 5: {dateCreated: '2023-03-29T00:00:00.000Z', dateLoaded: '2023-05-29T15:00:29.353Z', key: 'IMM5791'}
  7. 6: {dateCreated: '2023-02-27T00:00:00.000Z', dateLoaded: '2023-05-29T15:00:29.353Z', key: 'IMM10002'}
  8. 7: {dateCreated: '2022-07-12T00:00:00.000Z', dateLoaded: '2023-05-29T15:00:29.353Z', key: 'IMM10003'}
  9. 8: {dateCreated: '2022-07-12T00:00:00.000Z', dateLoaded: '2023-05-29T15:00:29.353Z', key: 'IMM5787'}
  10. 9: {dateCreated: '2022-07-12T00:00:00.000Z', dateLoaded: '2023-05-29T15:00:29.353Z', key: 'IMM5786'}
  11. 10: {dateCreated: '2023-07-09T12:41:55.000Z', dateLoaded: '2023-07-10T15:00:32.030Z', key: '89'}
  12. 11: {dateCreated: '2023-06-19T16:22:50.000Z', dateLoaded: '2023-06-20T15:00:26.935Z', key: '1021'}
  13. 12: {dateCreated: '2023-05-28T00:00:00.000Z', dateLoaded: '2023-05-29T15:00:29.353Z', key: '42'}
  14. 13: {dateCreated: '2023-05-28T00:00:00.000Z', dateLoaded: '2023-05-29T15:00:29.353Z', key: '47'}
  15. 14: {dateCreated: '2023-05-28T00:00:00.000Z', dateLoaded: '2023-05-29T15:00:29.353Z', key: '9'}
  16. 15: {dateCreated: '2023-05-28T00:00:00.000Z', dateLoaded: '2023-05-29T15:00:29.353Z', key: '54'}
  17. 16: {dateCreated: '2023-05-28T00:00:00.000Z', dateLoaded: '2023-05-29T15:00:29.353Z', key: '5'}
  18. 17: {dateCreated: '2023-05-28T00:00:00.000Z', dateLoaded: '2023-05-29T15:00:29.353Z', key: '873'}
  19. 18: {dateCreated: '2023-05-28T00:00:00.000Z', dateLoaded: '2023-05-29T15:00:29.353Z', key: '57'}
  20. 19: {dateCreated: '2023-05-28T00:00:00.000Z', dateLoaded: '2023-05-29T15:00:29.353Z', key: '667'}
PS: The 'INITIAL' key was already there when BG and Eligibility was still In Progress. Now it seems to have a new data that matches the completion date of Medicals and Security
Hey, guys, I just saw your conversation and a little bit debugged, found a few statuses

historymap:

28: "BIRTH_CERT"
29: "DIVORCE_CERT"
31: "CUSTODY"
41: "PASSPORT"
42: "PASSPORT_PHOTO"
54: "MED_PROOF"
57: "POLICE_CERT"
61: "FAMILY_INFO"
63: "USE_OF_REP"
65: "GEN_APPL_FORM"
96: "WITHDRAWAL"
437: "ADD_FEES"
602: "SPR_INFO"
609: "SPR_UNDERTAKING"
651: "RELATIONSHIP"
664: "PAYMENT"
667: "MARRIAGE_CERT"
723: "ADD_FAMILY_INFO"
871: "POLICE_CERT"
873: "PASSPORT"
1021: "ENQUIRY"
Auto E-mail 01: "AOR"
Auto E-mail 108: "PREARRIVAL"
Auto E-mail 111: "BIOMETRICS"
IMM0535: "MED_RESULT"
IMM1017: "MED_REPORT"
IMM5706: "MED_ADD"
IMM5756: "BIOMETRIC_FEES"
IMM5801: "PREARRIVAL"
INITIAL: "INITIAL"
Word LTR 01: "AOR"
Word LTR 11: "ELIG_DEC"
Word LTR 12: "WITHDRAWN"
Word LTR 19: "TRANSFERRED"
Word LTR 20: "COPR_ISSUED"
Word LTR 21: "SPR_DEC"
Word LTR 22: "SPR_DEC"
Word LTR 24: "REFUND_FEES"
Word LTR 28: "PR_AUTH"
Word LTR 29: "ELIG_DEC"

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723: "We received the additional family information you sent us."
ACTIVITY: " Activity status updated: "
ADD_FAMILY_INFO: "We received the additional family information you sent us."
ADD_FEES: "We received the additional fees you submitted."
AOR: "Acknowledgement of receipt"
BIOMETRICS: "Complete your biometrics"
BIOMETRIC_FEES: "Payment of biometric fees"
BIRTH_CERT: "We received the birth registration/certificate you sent us."
COPR_ISSUED: "Your Confirmation of Permanent Residence (COPR) has been issued"
CUSTODY: "We received the custody documents you sent us."
DIVORCE_CERT: "We received the divorce certificate you sent us."
DNA: "Book your test for DNA sample collections"
ELIG_DEC: "Decision on eligibility"
ENQUIRY: "We received your enquiry."
FAMILY_INFO: "We received the Additional Family Information form (IMM5406) you sent us."
GEN_APPL_FORM: "We received the Generic Application Form for Canada (IMM 0008) you sent us."
INFO_RECIEVED: "We received the information you sent us. We’ll review it and let you know if we need any other information from you."
INITIAL: "Application received"
MARRIAGE_CERT: "We received the marriage certificate/licence you sent us."
MED_ADD: "We need more information for your medical exam"
MED_PROOF: "We received your proof of completion for the immigration medical exam you sent us."
MED_REPORT: "Complete your immigration medical exam"
MED_RESULT: "Your immigration medical exam results"
MPACCESS: "{{office}} accessed this account."
OTHER: "We sent you a message about your application"
PASSPORT: "We received the passport(s)/travel document(s) you sent us."
PASSPORT_PHOTO: "We received the passport photos you sent us."
PAYMENT: "We received the payment you sent us."
POLICE_CERT: "We received the police certificate(s) you sent us."
PREARRIVAL: "Invitation to pre-arrival services"
PR_AUTH: "Permanent residence authorized"
REFUND_FEES: "Application fees refund"
RELATIONSHIP: "We received the document proving your relationship with your sponsor."
SPR_DEC: "Decision on sponsorship eligibility"
SPR_INFO: "We received the sponsor information you sent us."
SPR_UNDERTAKING: "We received the Application to Sponsor, Sponsorship Agreement and Undertaking (IMM 1344) you sent us."
TRANSFERRED: "Application transferred"
USE_OF_REP: "We received the Use of a Representative form (IMM5476 or IMM5475) you sent us."
WITHDRAWAL: "We received the withdrawal request you sent us."
WITHDRAWN: "Application withdrawn"
 

iSaidGoodDay

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Hey, guys, I just saw your conversation and a little bit debugged, found a few statuses

historymap:

28: "BIRTH_CERT"
29: "DIVORCE_CERT"
31: "CUSTODY"
41: "PASSPORT"
42: "PASSPORT_PHOTO"
54: "MED_PROOF"
57: "POLICE_CERT"
61: "FAMILY_INFO"
63: "USE_OF_REP"
65: "GEN_APPL_FORM"
96: "WITHDRAWAL"
437: "ADD_FEES"
602: "SPR_INFO"
609: "SPR_UNDERTAKING"
651: "RELATIONSHIP"
664: "PAYMENT"
667: "MARRIAGE_CERT"
723: "ADD_FAMILY_INFO"
871: "POLICE_CERT"
873: "PASSPORT"
1021: "ENQUIRY"
Auto E-mail 01: "AOR"
Auto E-mail 108: "PREARRIVAL"
Auto E-mail 111: "BIOMETRICS"
IMM0535: "MED_RESULT"
IMM1017: "MED_REPORT"
IMM5706: "MED_ADD"
IMM5756: "BIOMETRIC_FEES"
IMM5801: "PREARRIVAL"
INITIAL: "INITIAL"
Word LTR 01: "AOR"
Word LTR 11: "ELIG_DEC"
Word LTR 12: "WITHDRAWN"
Word LTR 19: "TRANSFERRED"
Word LTR 20: "COPR_ISSUED"
Word LTR 21: "SPR_DEC"
Word LTR 22: "SPR_DEC"
Word LTR 24: "REFUND_FEES"
Word LTR 28: "PR_AUTH"
Word LTR 29: "ELIG_DEC"

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723: "We received the additional family information you sent us."
ACTIVITY: " Activity status updated: "
ADD_FAMILY_INFO: "We received the additional family information you sent us."
ADD_FEES: "We received the additional fees you submitted."
AOR: "Acknowledgement of receipt"
BIOMETRICS: "Complete your biometrics"
BIOMETRIC_FEES: "Payment of biometric fees"
BIRTH_CERT: "We received the birth registration/certificate you sent us."
COPR_ISSUED: "Your Confirmation of Permanent Residence (COPR) has been issued"
CUSTODY: "We received the custody documents you sent us."
DIVORCE_CERT: "We received the divorce certificate you sent us."
DNA: "Book your test for DNA sample collections"
ELIG_DEC: "Decision on eligibility"
ENQUIRY: "We received your enquiry."
FAMILY_INFO: "We received the Additional Family Information form (IMM5406) you sent us."
GEN_APPL_FORM: "We received the Generic Application Form for Canada (IMM 0008) you sent us."
INFO_RECIEVED: "We received the information you sent us. We’ll review it and let you know if we need any other information from you."
INITIAL: "Application received"
MARRIAGE_CERT: "We received the marriage certificate/licence you sent us."
MED_ADD: "We need more information for your medical exam"
MED_PROOF: "We received your proof of completion for the immigration medical exam you sent us."
MED_REPORT: "Complete your immigration medical exam"
MED_RESULT: "Your immigration medical exam results"
MPACCESS: "{{office}} accessed this account."
OTHER: "We sent you a message about your application"
PASSPORT: "We received the passport(s)/travel document(s) you sent us."
PASSPORT_PHOTO: "We received the passport photos you sent us."
PAYMENT: "We received the payment you sent us."
POLICE_CERT: "We received the police certificate(s) you sent us."
PREARRIVAL: "Invitation to pre-arrival services"
PR_AUTH: "Permanent residence authorized"
REFUND_FEES: "Application fees refund"
RELATIONSHIP: "We received the document proving your relationship with your sponsor."
SPR_DEC: "Decision on sponsorship eligibility"
SPR_INFO: "We received the sponsor information you sent us."
SPR_UNDERTAKING: "We received the Application to Sponsor, Sponsorship Agreement and Undertaking (IMM 1344) you sent us."
TRANSFERRED: "Application transferred"
USE_OF_REP: "We received the Use of a Representative form (IMM5476 or IMM5475) you sent us."
WITHDRAWAL: "We received the withdrawal request you sent us."
WITHDRAWN: "Application withdrawn"
This is such a badly coded app though. Why throw so much data at a UI that you aren't even going to display? :D
 
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