LIMA LMO Question for EE

[Aarti21]

LMO/LMIA number you can find it in on the top page that is Confirmation # 0000000, Issue date you can find it from on the same first page after service Canada address 0000-00-00 before your employer address. Expiry date you can find it on the third page which is Opinion expiry date: 0000-00-00

Thanks sarkumar +1..

Thanks,
Aarti

 

[amro375]

The LMO expiry date should not be confused with the LMO duration of employment or the WP expiry period (which may be longer in duration depending on the employment situation). The LMO expiry date determines if the LMO is valid at the time the WP application is submitted, whereas the work duration in the LMO is the timeframe of work that the employer has requested and to which HRSDC has agreed.

Below the questions from the EE

Was a positive Labour Market Information Assessment (LMIA) issued for the job offer in Canada? - Yes

LMIA number : ?

LMIA issue date : ?

LMIA expiry date : ?

Does have a valid work permit for the current job in Canada? - Yes

Is job offer from the employer named on the current work permit? : Yes

Four digit NOC code of current work permit : ?

Was a positive Labour Market Information Assessment (LMIA) issued for the current work permit? : Yes

So I think we need to mention in the profile for the question of LMO expiry date is = Opinion Expiry date not the Work permit expiry date.

But this would be in the past? Mine is from mid 2013? Shouldn't I put the date till my TWP is valid?

 

[Aarti21]

No amro375,mine is too mid sept 2013, however I beleive as the current work permit is still on and approved based on the expired LMO , it gives u the 600 points of arranged employment.

Thanks,
Aarti

 

[fkl]

No amro375,mine is too mid sept 2013, however I beleive as the current work permit is still on and approved based on the expired LMO , it gives u the 600 points of arranged employment.

Thanks,
Aarti

That is precisely correct. The intent of this condition is for CIC to know that your LMIA / LMO based work permit is still valid at the time of application for PR. No LMO is issued for more than six months itself. So by the time any one starts working on work permit LMO is already expired and that is of no interest for CIC here. What they are concerned about here is validity of work permit

 

[amro375]

But they ask you about LMIA expiration date which is in the past.
They do not ask you about work visa duration or expiry.

So I should enter the Opinion Expiry date in the question for LMIA expiry date?

 

[fkl]

The opinion expiry date could differ from the actual work permit, and i am not sure it would matter then.

For e.g. my LMO said 3 years but my passport was expiring after 2 years and a month. So upon landing actual work permit expiry was tied to passport expiry, though i was told i can renew my work permit to LMO expiry again without getting a new LMO.

If i were in your shoes, i would put in work permit expiry.

 

[amro375]

I just called CIC again and got the following answer:

If the LMO is for the specific time frame, like 2 or 3 years an not for permanent job offer then you need LMIA otherwise you are not getting 600 points.

Now, are there different types of LMO.

Can anyone else call CIC to confirm.

 

[shail2054]

I just called CIC again and got the following answer:

If the LMO is for the specific time frame, like 2 or 3 years an not for permanent job offer then you need LMIA otherwise you are not getting 600 points.

Now, are there different types of LMO.

Can anyone else call CIC to confirm.

Did you created EE profile? If yes how much point you got ?

 

[amro375]

Did you created EE profile? If yes how much point you got ?

I did not submit my application as I was not sure whether to say I have LMIA or no.
I called CIC last week they told me LMIA is the same as LMO just different terminology.
Called today just to confirm again from different agent and got different answer.
I am really really confused now.

 

[shail2054]

I did not submit my application as I was not sure whether to say I have LMIA or no.
I called CIC last week they told me LMIA is the same as LMO just different terminology.
Called today just to confirm again from different agent and got different answer.
I am really really confused now.

Bro you just create your profile n see if it's give you 600 additional point for LMO. If it's giving you points then good to go.. Why you so worry.. It's not misrepresentation

 

[anoirmimi]

I did not submit my application as I was not sure whether to say I have LMIA or no.
I called CIC last week they told me LMIA is the same as LMO just different terminology.
Called today just to confirm again from different agent and got different answer.
I am really really confused now.

phone number of cic

 

[amro375]

Bro you just create your profile n see if it's give you 600 additional point for LMO. If it's giving you points then good to go.. Why you so worry.. It's not misrepresentation

Well its not asking you if you have LMO. That is the problem. That option does not exist. It is asking you if you have LMIA.
Now if you say YES then it will give you 600 points, you will get invite but then you will sent your LMO instead of LMIA.
What It is not accepted. Then you lied when you said you have LMIA but you were referring to LMO.

 

[amro375]

phone number of cic

1-888-242‑2100 then you need to choose two more aditional numbers, one of them was 7 but I cannot remember. Just listen to the voice commands.

 

[fkl]

Well its not asking you if you have LMO. That is the problem. That option does not exist. It is asking you if you have LMIA.
Now if you say YES then it will give you 600 points, you will get invite but then you will sent your LMO instead of LMIA.
What It is not accepted. Then you lied when you said you have LMIA but you were referring to LMO.

I call it too negative thinking and un needed worry. It would never say LMO OR LMIA because LMIA is the new procedure. However, you have seen in CIC's official documentation that LMO = LMIA (this precise statement, link was quoted above earlier). So it makes perfect sense.

Lastly, the call center guys are never the absolute authority. If you read the official instruction, you won't have these doubts. ANY ONE who applied for a work permit is coming fora temp stay SO NO LMO can be for indefinite time. It is always for a limited number of years. The only exception in older system was when some one applies via FSW2 for PR with permanent LMO and job offer.

Any way the official wording says if your employer is willing to employ you for reasonable length of time (and you already had LMO + work permit) you are good to go. Please go through the three cases quote already for EE eligibility.

Moreover, i know several people who have done the same. I myself would be following the exact same route and situation. If it turns out misrepresentation, there would be tons of people who would have committed it.

Stop worrying unnecessarily. Misrepresentation is something completely different. It is easier to determine that.

 

[Aarti21]

Well its not asking you if you have LMO. That is the problem. That option does not exist. It is asking you if you have LMIA.
Now if you say YES then it will give you 600 points, you will get invite but then you will sent your LMO instead of LMIA.
What It is not accepted. Then you lied when you said you have LMIA but you were referring to LMO.

Hi amro375,
My LMO expiry date was sept 2013 which meant I had to apply for a visa/work permit before this date, the LMO was issued by hrdc for 24 months that is also called the LMO duration..so provided my passport is not expiring for those 24 months , I got a work permit till the end of the visa issued to me...

The work permit issued bears the name of the employer for whom the positive LMO was awarded..so the question of current work permit having employers name..

On your wp approval letter u will also have the uci reference..which gives details of your work permit ...so please mention this when asked if u have applied for CIC earlier..

Don't see any reason for complications..moreover u need to give facts whatever they are rather than just giving what fetches u max points..
All the best..

Regards,
Aarti