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cocknbull said:
Hi!

There are many due dates in GCMS. Which due date you are talking about ? The due date under application assignment is next BFD (bring forward date).

If you are talking about due date in eligibility, medicals, security etc, then these are just approximate dates put by visa office and they are normally after one year of your case gone in to in to process. These dates are of not much importance and there is no guarantee you will get medicals by that date or security will be completed by that date or your case will be completed etc. Thanks


Thanks .i was talking about the due date under assignment
 
asbereth said:
Hi all,

This thread rocks, and provides a lot of information. +1 to you cocknbull :)

Anyway, I have only very recently started reviewing (mostly briefly) this thread, and I noticed that 'due dates' under medical and admissibilities (usually 1 year after PER or AOR) do not really mean the same thing as BF'D? Does it mean that they will need to review medical, security and criminality at those dates, but not necessarily the dates when I will get MR, or is it actually the date they have to issue MR? Also, if all fields under 'Application Assignment' are empty (and the fact that everything is 'not started'), it means that no officer has done anything yet to my file?

I'm wondering about eligibility though. It says that my total points is 68, but status is not started. There are actually ELIGIBILITY ASSESSMENT:1 and ELIGIBILITY ASSESSMENT: 2, and it looks like number 2 is only for ministerial instruction eligibility (this one has been met), but number 1 is for selection factor? Am I interpreting this correctly?

And lastly, I ordered this CAIPS (or GCMS) under Access to Information Act, which required me to pay 5 dollars. I ordered, at the end of January, another one, this time using Privacy Act, which is free. I'm assuming that I will receive the notes, containing the same information as before? What is the difference between the two?

Thank you all in advance, and I really appreciate your helping the community :)

Hi!

Thanks for +1 and it is requited.. :)

Due dates in medicals / admissibilities mean that in reality they should complete the whole process by that date but that doesn't happen unfortunately so never go by these dates. You are right if application assignment is empty, no next BFD and if nothing started means file has not seen at visa office stage.

You are right Regarding eligibility assessment 2, it is done at CIO stage, It means initial approval if you meet the criteria, you can see the type there, it says Ministerial Instructions and status is met.

Regarding eligibility assessment 1, it is done at visa office stage, here you will see detail explanation of total points gained and in each category and if you see the type is Selection

I agree in your case if you have scored 68 points in eligibility assessment 1 and given points in each category then your eligibility status should be "in progress"

Please tell notes of visa officer at end of GCMS. Note 1 is the latest. Check the label, office and updated date there, I mean if visa officer has made comments and if he has seen your file at visa office.

Also to find out if eligibility has started or not go to history, you will see application status, keep going, you will see application, tell under application 1

field name ?
action ?
old value ?
new value ?
updated date ?
updated by ?
office ?


If you order notes from outside of Canada through friend / relative you need to pay $5 and tick access to information act.

Privacy act is for those living in Canada and they don't need to pay $5 fees.

You might not get correct notes if you have applied under privacy act. My suggestion to you is inform them by email of mistake and pay $5 to get correct notes.

Thanks
 
Thanks for replying....can you please give me your e-mail address? BTW, I applied in oct, 2011 as FSW2. In feb 2012, buffalo requested me fingerprinting. Since then, no news and in Jan, I ordered GCMS in which I saw criminilaity - In progress. Security, verification and medical not started yet :(


cocknbull said:
Hi!

Thats means your file has not been reviewed at visa office stage. When did you apply? On the same page what is application assignment due date under application assignment. This is your next BFD. If you want a detailed review you can send me your GCMS in my email removing your personal details. Thanks
 
delcan said:
Thanks .i was talking about the due date under assignment

That was your last BFD. When did you last order GCMS? If nothing happened on that date it means they are still working on your case and its not finalised yet. Allow some more time. Thanks
 
Thanks got it. BTW, I applied in oct, 2011 as FSW2. In feb 2012, buffalo requested me fingerprinting. Since then, no news and in Jan, I ordered GCMS in which I saw criminilaity - In progress. Security, verification and medical not started yet. And, I did not find any bfd date except 23 Jan 2013 for client details updated. Also, I asked to enquire about my file's processing by my local MP and I can see two text in the notes about the MP enquiry by their assistants.

cocknbull said:
Sent in PM. thanks
 
cocknbull said:
That was your last BFD. When did you last order GCMS? If nothing happened on that date it means they are still working on your case and its not finalised yet. Allow some more time. Thanks
Got gcms on mid jan 13 report generated mid Dec 12
 
cocknbull said:
Hi!

Thanks for +1 and it is requited.. :)

Due dates in medicals / admissibilities mean that in reality they should complete the whole process by that date but that doesn't happen unfortunately so never go by these dates. You are right if application assignment is empty, no next BFD and if nothing started means file has not seen at visa office stage.

You are right Regarding eligibility assessment 2, it is done at CIO stage, It means initial approval if you meet the criteria, you can see the type there, it says Ministerial Instructions and status is met.

Regarding eligibility assessment 1, it is done at visa office stage, here you will see detail explanation of total points gained and in each category and if you see the type is Selection

I agree in your case if you have scored 68 points in eligibility assessment 1 and given points in each category then your eligibility status should be "in progress"

Please tell notes of visa officer at end of GCMS. Note 1 is the latest. Check the label, office and updated date there, I mean if visa officer has made comments and if he has seen your file at visa office.

Also to find out if eligibility has started or not go to history, you will see application status, keep going, you will see application, tell under application 1

field name ?
action ?
old value ?
new value ?
updated date ?
updated by ?
office ?


If you order notes from outside of Canada through friend / relative you need to pay $5 and tick access to information act.

Privacy act is for those living in Canada and they don't need to pay $5 fees.

You might not get correct notes if you have applied under privacy act. My suggestion to you is inform them by email of mistake and pay $5 to get correct notes.

Thanks

Privacy act is for those living in Canada and they don't need to pay $5 fees.

Can you please clarify it more. If someone is in Canada (Canadian) apply for someone's do not need to pay 5$?
 
Hi cocknbull, thanks a lot for your reply. I wish I could keep giving you pluses :)

cocknbull said:
Due dates in medicals / admissibilities mean that in reality they should complete the whole process by that date but that doesn't happen unfortunately so never go by these dates. You are right if application assignment is empty, no next BFD and if nothing started means file has not seen at visa office stage.

My due dates for these medicals and admissibilities are March 21 2013, but eligibility has not yet been started as of December 21 2012, so I'm not really counting too much on it (though there have been a lot of movements among other applicants with similar timeline as me), but I hope that I can at least hear something by then...

cocknbull said:
Regarding eligibility assessment 1, it is done at visa office stage, here you will see detail explanation of total points gained and in each category and if you see the type is Selection

I agree in your case if you have scored 68 points in eligibility assessment 1 and given points in each category then your eligibility status should be "in progress"

I think the 68 points were probably assigned by Sydney, though obviously it's not the final decision yet :(

cocknbull said:
Please tell notes of visa officer at end of GCMS. Note 1 is the latest. Check the label, office and updated date there, I mean if visa officer has made comments and if he has seen your file at visa office.

There hasn't been any notes from visa officer yet, though there are in total about 7 notes, detailing my correspondence with them (I had to rectify some forms because I forgot to attach my brothers' information). Note 6, I believe, was the note from the CIO, which stated that 'the applicant appeared to have more than 67 points', but 'work experience letters not verified yet' :(

cocknbull said:
Also to find out if eligibility has started or not go to history, you will see application status, keep going, you will see application, tell under application 1

field name ?
action ?
old value ?
new value ?
updated date ?
updated by ?
office ?

I checked under application 1, and it goes as following,

APPLICATION: 1
Field Name: Secondary Office
Action: Added
Old Value:
New Value: Centralized Intake Office
Updated Date: 2012/05/23
Updated By: AH00565
Office: CPP Ottawa

which probably implies eligibility probably hasn't been started yet. These GCMS notes were two months old, however (ordered at late December 2012), and within these two months, there has been a lot of things going on to applicants within similar timeline as mine, so hopefully I'll see some movement when I will get my new CAIPS next week (ordered at Jan 30).

cocknbull said:
If you order notes from outside of Canada through friend / relative you need to pay $5 and tick access to information act.

Privacy act is for those living in Canada and they don't need to pay $5 fees.

Ya, I'm applying under PhD stream, and currently living in Canada, so I think it's fine then to apply under Privacy Act :)

cocknbull, if you don't mind, can I PM you so we can talk more about this? Thanks a lot for your help, and I really appreciate it :)
 
kan2008 said:
Privacy act is for those living in Canada and they don't need to pay $5 fees.

Can you please clarify it more. If someone is in Canada (Canadian) apply for someone's do not need to pay 5$?
The applier always has to be a Canada Resident, that is the reason people who do not know a canadian resident have to apply from the professional websites.

The Privacy act where no fee is to be paid is if the applicant whose information is sought is residing in Canada and Access to Information act where $5 needs to be paid is for the applicant whose information is sought is not residing in Canada.

Sunny
 
BK11 said:
Thanks got it. BTW, I applied in oct, 2011 as FSW2. In feb 2012, buffalo requested me fingerprinting. Since then, no news and in Jan, I ordered GCMS in which I saw criminilaity - In progress. Security, verification and medical not started yet. And, I did not find any bfd date except 23 Jan 2013 for client details updated. Also, I asked to enquire about my file's processing by my local MP and I can see two text in the notes about the MP enquiry by their assistants.

Hi!

What about eligibility ? Is it passed, in progress or not started? What about notes of visa officer at end of GCMS ? Any review at visa office stage? thanks
 
asbereth said:
Hi cocknbull, thanks a lot for your reply. I wish I could keep giving you pluses :)

My due dates for these medicals and admissibilities are March 21 2013, but eligibility has not yet been started as of December 21 2012, so I'm not really counting too much on it (though there have been a lot of movements among other applicants with similar timeline as me), but I hope that I can at least hear something by then...

I think the 68 points were probably assigned by Sydney, though obviously it's not the final decision yet :(

There hasn't been any notes from visa officer yet, though there are in total about 7 notes, detailing my correspondence with them (I had to rectify some forms because I forgot to attach my brothers' information). Note 6, I believe, was the note from the CIO, which stated that 'the applicant appeared to have more than 67 points', but 'work experience letters not verified yet' :(

I checked under application 1, and it goes as following,

APPLICATION: 1
Field Name: Secondary Office
Action: Added
Old Value:
New Value: Centralized Intake Office
Updated Date: 2012/05/23
Updated By: AH00565
Office: CPP Ottawa

which probably implies eligibility probably hasn't been started yet. These GCMS notes were two months old, however (ordered at late December 2012), and within these two months, there has been a lot of things going on to applicants within similar timeline as mine, so hopefully I'll see some movement when I will get my new CAIPS next week (ordered at Jan 30).

Ya, I'm applying under PhD stream, and currently living in Canada, so I think it's fine then to apply under Privacy Act :)

cocknbull, if you don't mind, can I PM you so we can talk more about this? Thanks a lot for your help, and I really appreciate it :)

Hi!

1) Regarding 68 points, have you given points for all categories like age, experience, language, etc because normally CIO doesn't do a detailed review of points and it its normally done at visa office stage. what is type there in eligibility assessment 1? is it ministerial instructions or selection?

2) Note 6 is your initial approval from CIO.

3) Application 1 shows that on 23/5/12 new office was added to your application i-e CIO (may be they are dealing with your case and eligibility assessment 1 is done by them)

What is application 2 ? do you see any field name as eligibility in any application like in application 1, application 2, application3 etc


Yes you can surely send me PM and if you want a detailed review you can email me your notes by removing your personal details.

this is a software you can use to convert pdf file to word then edit.

http://legacy.nitropdf.com/free/
 
sunnysport said:
The applier always has to be a Canada Resident, that is the reason people who do not know a canadian resident have to apply from the professional websites.

The Privacy act where no fee is to be paid is if the applicant whose information is sought is residing in Canada and Access to Information act where $5 needs to be paid is for the applicant whose information is sought is not residing in Canada.

Sunny

correctly opined by sunnysport, hope it answers your query kan2008...Thanks
 
cocknbull said:
correctly opined by sunnysport, hope it answers your query kan2008...Thanks

Thanks
 
I got my Caips notes through my relatives who are in Canada & are PR card holder and not the Canadian citizen yet.
Every time, they pay $5 as per their information, it is only free for Canadian citizen not for the Canadain residence.

I send my forms once again to apply for Caips notes for third time to see any thing changed after sending updated documents or not. I told once again to my uncle that it is free but he says that just for $5 dollars, calling them and wasting time is stupidness. Also he says that if it was free, they would have send the cheque back. If they took money, it means that it is not free for Residence, but only free for Canadian citizen.