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Kais767

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does anyone know if being inland is being processed ahead of outland? i am outland CEC but I got my biometrics done in Ireland in the brief window that they were open in September so I would say I had my biometrics before a lot of people in Canada have been given appointments or marked as exempt. I am wondering does that mean that they would have processed my application ahead of the inlanders who didn't have complete profiles yet or are they prioritising people inland first no matter what? My background check is in progress and it says they don't need any more documents or anything. My AOR is 14th July.
(I know I am being impatient I am just trying to figure out where the application is because everything seems to have gone by normal timelines so far! and because it's so expensive to call IRCC from here lol)
It’s tough to say what stage you’re at. It could be that criminality has passed but security (or even eligibility) hasn’t. On the other hand, it’s possible that you’re just waiting for the final green light which can take weeks.
 

Aparna Vijay

Full Member
Feb 22, 2020
35
19
United States of America
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2173
AOR Received.
09-07-2020
Passport Req..
18-11-2020
VISA ISSUED...
12-12-2020
LANDED..........
10-07-2021
Hey all, I applied for GCMS on Oct08 and today I received a mail stating they need 90 additional days for processing. Anybody know about this?
Very frustrating. This is not good for my anxiety.
 

willapp

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Mar 20, 2020
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Hey all, I applied for GCMS on Oct08 and today I received a mail stating they need 90 additional days for processing. Anybody know about this?
Very frustrating. This is not good for my anxiety.
I guess it's because so many applications are pending and people just keep ordering notes. IRCC should really think about communicating the realistic expectations to applicants instead of only stating that there will be a delay.
Applicants in the US are allowed to land but IRCC seems to have no intention to issue PPR to those people either.
 
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Aparna Vijay

Full Member
Feb 22, 2020
35
19
United States of America
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2173
AOR Received.
09-07-2020
Passport Req..
18-11-2020
VISA ISSUED...
12-12-2020
LANDED..........
10-07-2021
How I wish they start to issue COPR to outland applicants with a future "valid-from" date or so!
I am just trying to imagine the COPR flood once international travel restrictions are lifted. Job market will suffer too with the sudden inflow of many new PR holders. These are all just my thoughts, just clearing my head here. :(
 

hamid123456

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@legalfalcon

This is what I see in my GCMS Notes in the assessment section:
ASSESSMENTS
Eligibility: Passed
Security: Not Started
Criminality: In Progress
Info Sharing: Complete

In the Notes section of my GCSM note, it says the following:

NOTES: 1
Label: General
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text: PReVu Verified (applicant information)

NOTES: 2
Label: General
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text: Red'd: RCMP Criminal Record for PA. inc. corresp. eDOC# ********.

-----

- What does Info Sharing: Complete in the assessment section mean?
- What do those Texts in the NOTES section mean exactly? Is my eligibility conclusively passed?

Thanks.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon

This is what I see in my GCMS Notes in the assessment section:
ASSESSMENTS
Eligibility: Passed
Security: Not Started
Criminality: In Progress
Info Sharing: Complete

In the Notes section of my GCSM note, it says the following:

NOTES: 1
Label: General
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text: PReVu Verified (applicant information)

NOTES: 2
Label: General
Office: CPC-Ottawa
Text: Red'd: RCMP Criminal Record for PA. inc. corresp. eDOC# ********.

-----

- What does Info Sharing: Complete in the assessment section mean?
- What do those Texts in the NOTES section mean exactly? Is my eligibility conclusively passed?

Thanks.
For info-sharing see https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/resources/manuals/in/in01-eng.pdf

What does your note 3 and 4 say.

The notes you have posted are not related to eligibility.
 
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hamid123456

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For info-sharing see https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/resources/manuals/in/in01-eng.pdf

What does your note 3 and 4 say.

The notes you have posted are not related to eligibility.
@legalfalcon

Note 3
Label: EE Eligibility
Office: Centralized Intake Office
Text:
starts with A11.2 - CASE PROCESSING AGENT, then says A11.2: Met, and there are long paragraphs about my Family and Work experience, Adaptibility, and Settlement Funds (for some of them it says MET and for some of them it says APPEARS TO MEET).

Note 4
Label: EE Eligibility
Office: Centralized Intake Office
Text:


(for RCMP Fingerprints, it says Review Required - Pending outstanding. I have provided them with RCMP document that they requested. I don't know why it should be Review Required )
 
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Ola2j

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Jun 18, 2019
80
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Hi @legalfalcon
I just got my gcms note now and in the minimum funds requirement aspect, it showed "met" but in the note, there was review required for settlement funds. I'm quite confused about this, can you kindly explain what it means
 

Kartiksharma1996

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Jun 8, 2020
40
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@legalfalcon

Note 3
Label: EE Eligibility
Office: Centralized Intake Office
Text:
starts with A11.2 - CASE PROCESSING AGENT, then says A11.2: Met, and there are long paragraphs about my Family and Work experience, Adaptibility, and Settlement Funds (for some of them it says MET and for some of them it says APPEARS TO MEET).

Note 4
Label: EE Eligibility
Office: Centralized Intake Office
Text:


(for RCMP Fingerprints, it says Review Required - Pending outstanding. I have provided them with RCMP document that they requested. I don't know why it should be Review Required )
[/QUOTE

It exactly same for me. Note 1 also says . Criminality Decision NOT passed; Outstanding RCMP finger print clearance Biometrics pending. Is it same for you?
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi @legalfalcon
I just got my gcms note now and in the minimum funds requirement aspect, it showed "met" but in the note, there was review required for settlement funds. I'm quite confused about this, can you kindly explain what it means
If your PoF was in a foreign currency, the RR is very common. It is just an indication to the officer to review before marking it passed.

Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, they will be clearly mentioned in the note. If there is nothing specific and still you have a RR, then it merely indicates that the CPA or analyst is requesting the officer to review the documents once before finalising it.

The specific reasons would be that the job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

If you answered yes to a statutory question, about a prior visa refusal etc, you will have RR. This only indicates to verify if you have criminality or inadmissibility issues based on the refusal.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.
6. Answering yes to statutory question.

There are just some of the scenarios.

Hope this helps.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
@legalfalcon

Note 3
Label: EE Eligibility
Office: Centralized Intake Office
Text:
starts with A11.2 - CASE PROCESSING AGENT, then says A11.2: Met, and there are long paragraphs about my Family and Work experience, Adaptibility, and Settlement Funds (for some of them it says MET and for some of them it says APPEARS TO MEET).

Note 4
Label: EE Eligibility
Office: Centralized Intake Office
Text:


(for RCMP Fingerprints, it says Review Required - Pending outstanding. I have provided them with RCMP document that they requested. I don't know why it should be Review Required )
The Note 4 is the R10.

Note 3 is the eligibility recommended passed. Now an officer will review the note and Mae a final determination on your eligibility

See #2,521
 
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Ola2j

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Jun 18, 2019
80
28
If your PoF was in a foreign currency, the RR is very common. It is just an indication to the officer to review before marking it passed.

Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, they will be clearly mentioned in the note. If there is nothing specific and still you have a RR, then it merely indicates that the CPA or analyst is requesting the officer to review the documents once before finalising it.

The specific reasons would be that the job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

If you answered yes to a statutory question, about a prior visa refusal etc, you will have RR. This only indicates to verify if you have criminality or inadmissibility issues based on the refusal.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.
6. Answering yes to statutory question.

There are just some of the scenarios.

Hope this helps.
Alright. But please can I forward the note to you so you can go through it&have a proper understanding of it please. I'd really appreciate it if you can
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Alright. But please can I forward the note to you so you can go through it&have a proper understanding of it please. I'd really appreciate it if you can
It is humanly possible for me to review the entire notes for everyone. The notes are self explanatory, and if you have a specific issue, you can tag me I will be happy to answer it.
 

Ola2j

Star Member
Jun 18, 2019
80
28
If your PoF was in a foreign currency, the RR is very common. It is just an indication to the officer to review before marking it passed.

Understanding “Review Required”

A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, they will be clearly mentioned in the note. If there is nothing specific and still you have a RR, then it merely indicates that the CPA or analyst is requesting the officer to review the documents once before finalising it.

The specific reasons would be that the job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

If you answered yes to a statutory question, about a prior visa refusal etc, you will have RR. This only indicates to verify if you have criminality or inadmissibility issues based on the refusal.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.
6. Answering yes to statutory question.

There are just some of the scenarios.

Hope this helps.
This is what the note says
FSW Having analyzed this application based on the documents submitted by the applicant and the information
contained in the file, I make the following recommendation.
SUMMARY
NOTES: REVIEW REQUIRED FOR PRooF OF FUNDS - EDOC # 386023617 AI 1.2: Review Required R75: FSW
MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS - Review Required R76: SELECTION CRITERIA - FSW POINTS : REVIEW REQUIRED
R76: SELECTION CRITERIA - FUNDS : REVIEW REQUIRED FSW points total: 74 Ready to Finalize RPRF:
Complete
Comprehensive Ranking System (CRS) CRS Score at invitation to apply (ITA) 483 CRS points minimum score
for round: 478 CRS score at application (APR): 483 Total CRS Points Assessed: 483 I have reviewed the
following for CRS points: PA gained points as SINGLE at ITA and APR PA gained points for 3+ year(s) Foreign
Work Experience with "Trebview services, edoc# 386021050" PA gained points for Sibling in Canada

INTEGRATED SEARCH (FOSS/GCMS): PA: No trace other than present application
FAMILY
COMPOSITION: SINGLE; never married No indication of previous marriages/cl partners No declared children
MEDICALS: All valid for 6 months or more PASSPORTS: All valid for 6 months or more
WORK
EXPERIENCE: Lock-in Date: 2020-07-23 Primary Occupation: NOC 1120 Human Resources Managers
EDUCATION CREDENTIAL(S) PROVIDED: Bachelor's Degree: 4 yrs - Psychology; Diploma: Secondary school
dipoloma - General Academic; College-level Certificate: I yr - Accounting and Business 2017-02 to 2020-07 -
Assistant human Resources manager (NOC: Of 12) - at Trebview services - eDoc# 386021050- Letter dated
2020-07-20 appears to confirm employment in declared occupation throughout the specified period, and
provides a job description which is consistent with the lead statement and main duties as set out in the declared
NOC category. - Letter confirms salary of N170,000 per month - Letter confirms full/time employment; CRS
Foreign Work: 3 years and 6 months. FSW Work: O years(s) O month(s) of I year(s) - REVIEW REQUIRED CRS
Foreign Work: 3+ year(s)
WORK
EXPERIENCE: 2-3 year(s), 1 1 FSW Points

ADAPTABILITY: 5 FSW Points is related to a qualifying Canadian Person

SETTLEMENT FUNDS: Review Required Approx. CAD $O - CAD $1 1818 as per ACCESS BANK statement at
2020-07-16; Family of I requires CAD $12 960

NOTES: 4
Created Date: 2020/08/12 22ÿ52 :38
Created By: KM24806
Updated Date: 2020/08/12 22ÿ52 :59
Updated By: KM24806
Restricted: No
Label: EE Eligibility
Office: Centralized Intake Office
'ext:
REVIEW TYPE: Program Assistant APPLICATION #: E001526929 REGULATION: FSW I have reviewed this
application based upon the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file and
note the following. MIN.SCORE: 478 CRS SCORE: 483 Principal Applicant Application Promoted: New UCI
Primary Applicant Medical Attached to UCl: Yes Client Fees: Verified -----LANGUAGES----- Principal Applicant
English - IELTS Met Threshold & Verified -----EDUCATION----- Primary Applicant ECA report Verified on issuing
agency website; foreign credential confirmed on ECA site ECA Canadian Equivalency Summary reported by
issuing agency as Completion of a college-level certificate (one year) and bachelor's degree (four years) Foreign
credential provided -----POLICE CERTIFICATE----- Primary Applicant Nigeria police certificate: Provided-NRT
R10 0K Recommendation: Pass Criminality Applicant's age reviewed and No Change from ITA to e-
APR -----DOCUMENTS SET FOR REVIEW----- Client Information