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Guarona said:
FYI - Operational Bulletin (565) Update from Today: Applications that were not processed before January 17, 2014, are now being transferred from CPC-V to CPC-M

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/bulletins/2014/ob565.asp

Okayyy this is getting a little confusing :(
What does it mean by not commenced then?
Applications that received AOR but not touched yet = Not commenced?
Or new applications that are not opened yet? (before AOR issued)
Oh my, I hope all this re-routing and shifting will not result in more loss of applications & documents :'(
 
RRSweet said:
This worries me. Are they saying that any application that they have not began to process is being routed to Mississauga? That's basically all applications from probably July 2013 onwards.. or am I mistaken?

The way I see it, is that they've been working in Mississauga for the past couple of weeks, and that's why it's been jumping ahead so far in progress! It shouldn't be a big deal in my opinion...even when you send them paper documents they scan them into a computer, so all those files will just be sent electronically to the new office over a database...and things will get done more efficiently because they specialize in spousal sponsorship!

red_gatsby said:
Okayyy this is getting a little confusing :(
What does it mean by not commenced then?
Applications that received AOR but not touched yet = Not commenced?
Or new applications that are not opened yet? (before AOR issued)
Oh my, I hope all this re-routing and shifting will not result in more loss of applications & documents :'(

I'm guessing it means those that haven't received AIP yet.
 
RRSweet said:
This worries me. Are they saying that any application that they have not began to process is being routed to Mississauga? That's basically all applications from probably July 2013 onwards.. or am I mistaken?

Well, it should be a positive thing if that actually happens:

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To improve service and processing efficiency, responsibility for processing SCLPC applications was transferred from CPC-V to CPC-M to leverage its expertise in family class processing. These changes will ensure that Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) continues to meet its operational objectives in support of the Department's ongoing modernization agenda.

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If CPC-M is the better location for processing, that's a good thing!
 
RRSweet said:
This worries me. Are they saying that any application that they have not began to process is being routed to Mississauga? That's basically all applications from probably July 2013 onwards.. or am I mistaken?

No once you get AOR that means they have started processing the sponsorship application.
So it is referring to people that submitted after January 2014. Note at the bottom they say if they have transferred your file to Mississauga you would have got a letter from CIC.
 
red_gatsby said:
Okayyy this is getting a little confusing :(
What does it mean by not commenced then?
Applications that received AOR but not touched yet = Not commenced?
Or new applications that are not opened yet? (before AOR issued)
Oh my, I hope all this re-routing and shifting will not result in more loss of applications & documents :'(


This is exactly my concern gatsby! Sooo confusing.. ugh !
 
Linden said:
No once you get AOR that means they have started processing the sponsorship application.
So it is referring to people that submitted after January 2014. Note at the bottom they say if they have transferred your file Mississauga you would have got a letter from CIC.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought AOR just meant they've affirmed that they have your application, and everything has been submitted in a record for them. I thought they didn't actually even start looking at your application until you received AIP (application in process?)
 
Daizey said:
The way I see it, is that they've been working in Mississauga for the past couple of weeks, and that's why it's been jumping ahead so far in progress! It shouldn't be a big deal in my opinion...even when you send them paper documents they scan them into a computer, so all those files will just be sent electronically to the new office over a database...and things will get done more efficiently because they specialize in spousal sponsorship!

I'm guessing it means those that haven't received AIP yet.


Ok! Thanks for the clarification! Hopefully it does mean good things for all :)
 
RRSweet said:
This is exactly my concern gatsby! Sooo confusing.. ugh !

Yeah, I dont know should I be worried or try to think positive about this new update..
I sent my application in Oct, definitely not gonna get AIP until months later..
SO that might mean mine is not "processed" and I just sent in additional docs to Vegreville 1st week of Feb, which are still currently opening mail from Jan 8th..
Urghhhh this is so stressful, I just hope nothing gets lost or misplaced in process..
Especially those police certs and legal translated documents..
Pretty pain in the ass to get them :'(
 
Daizey said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought AOR just meant they've affirmed that they have your application, and everything has been submitted in a record for them. I thought they didn't actually even start looking at your application until you received AIP (application in process?)

In your ECAS it says under the sponsorship section they have started processing your application after you get AOR. Whether or not someone is actually physically looking at it is another matter.

Mrs. Canuck posted this earlier. It has a flow chart that outlines what they do at each stage. Note once they receive your application they open and review it to make sure all documents are included and filled in correctly then you get AOR. Though it's obviously a while before someone does review it again for AIP.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/ip/ip08-eng.pdf
 
Daizey said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought AOR just meant they've affirmed that they have your application, and everything has been submitted in a record for them. I thought they didn't actually even start looking at your application until you received AIP (application in process?)

Well I thought ;)...that CIC does a very basic cursory examination of your application package (checking that all required documents are included and signatures are complete) before issuing AOR. If that's correct, would/could that be seen as the `start' of the processing process?
 
red_gatsby said:
Yeah, I dont know should I be worried or try to think positive about this new update..
I sent my application in Oct, definitely not gonna get AIP until months later..
SO that might mean mine is not "processed" and I just sent in additional docs to Vegreville 1st week of Feb, which are still currently opening mail from Jan 8th..
Urghhhh this is so stressful, I just hope nothing gets lost or misplaced in process..
Especially those police certs and legal translated documents..
Pretty pain in the ass to get them :'(

No your application would be processed in Vegreville.
 
Linden said:
In your ECAS it says under the sponsorship it says they have started processing your application after you get AOR. Whether or not someone is actually physically looking at it is another matter.

Mrs. Canuck posted this earlier. It has a flow chart that outlines what they do at each stage. Note once they receive your application they open and review it to make sure all documents are included and filled in correctly then you get AOR. Though it's obviously a while before someone does review it again for AIP.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/ip/ip08-eng.pdf

Also from ip08:

Initial receipt and coding
An initial process occurs on receipt of every application, including those involving Quebec applicants. This process includes information gathering, record creation and administrative steps to ensure that initial evaluation can begin. This process includes, among others, the following steps:
verification for completeness;
• return to sponsor, if application is not complete, or acceptance by date stamp receipt;
• creation of both a paper and electronic file;
acknowledgement; (this would be AOR, right?)
• request for any support documents or information that may be missing;
• verification of and possible printing of the FOSS and/or CAIPS record; and • electronic transfer of biodata information to CPIC.
 
Ponga said:
Also from ip08:

Initial receipt and coding
An initial process occurs on receipt of every application, including those involving Quebec applicants. This process includes information gathering, record creation and administrative steps to ensure that initial evaluation can begin. This process includes, among others, the following steps:
verification for completeness;
• return to sponsor, if application is not complete, or acceptance by date stamp receipt;
• creation of both a paper and electronic file;
acknowledgement; (this would be AOR, right?)
• request for any support documents or information that may be missing;
• verification of and possible printing of the FOSS and/or CAIPS record; and • electronic transfer of biodata information to CPIC.

I guess that does make sense, it's why my AOR is a month after they received it because I had to resend a paper we had signed on the wrong line (doh!)...as far as the bulletin today though, I really do think it means if you haven't received AIP, because I can't even log into my eCAS to check the status of my application since I didn't file online and our lawyer doesn't have an AOR # (or says he doesn't...don't get me started on that debacle again...). I've tried to log into eCAS using the receipt number from when we paid the fee for the application, and it says I can't access with that information because our file isn't in process yet. That is why I think your file isn't actually considered "in process" until you receive notification of AIP
 
red_gatsby said:
Yeah, I dont know should I be worried or try to think positive about this new update..
I sent my application in Oct, definitely not gonna get AIP until months later..
SO that might mean mine is not "processed" and I just sent in additional docs to Vegreville 1st week of Feb, which are still currently opening mail from Jan 8th..
Urghhhh this is so stressful, I just hope nothing gets lost or misplaced in process..
Especially those police certs and legal translated documents..
Pretty pain in the ass to get them :'(
Red_gatsby ..I don't think so u gonna lost any documents ..because i also did same way ..i send many new updates just 2 weeks ago to cpc -v through my lawyer and i ask my lawyer to check if this need to send cpc-m because cpc-v closing down and they r not accepting new applications..that time my lawyer told me we have to send additional info to cpc-v only because CIC never send us any notice about our file transfer ...... :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :'( :'( :'(
 
Daizey said:
I guess that does make sense, it's why my AOR is a month after they received it because I had to resend a paper we had signed on the wrong line (doh!)...as far as the bulletin today though, I really do think it means if you haven't received AIP, because I can't even log into my eCAS since I didn't file online and our lawyer doesn't have an AOR # (or says he doesn't...don't get me started on that debacle again...). I've tried to log into eCAS using the receipt number from when we paid the fee for the application, and it says I can't access with that information because our file isn't in process yet. That is why I think your file isn't actually considered "in process" until you receive notification of AIP

It's not AIP. It's AOR otherwise people would have got letters from CIC stating their file got transferred. I checked the 2014 inland thread people that put in their application got a notice that their file got transferred to Mississauga.