Im too confused by replies Im getting from my people out there... Please help

[confused soul]

Hey All

I have been following this forum from few days now and looking for proper guidance... As my people out there is not providing me correct information on my concerns and queries
Here we go
1) if person entered canada just before few days before his/her pr card expiry and now is inside canada is this stay considered as legal or illegal?
2) if pr card is expired but the person has been away from canada can he/she stay in canada with expired p.r card and apply for renewal of p.r card after 2 years ?
3) during expired p.r card status can some-one still sponsor their spouse?
4) without a job and expired p.r card status is the person still eligible to get loan ?
5) can i obtain work permit on my own from my home country without any offer letter from canadian company?

Please guide me and help on the above concerns...
Thanks in advance for answering my queries your help truly appreciated....

 

[scylla]

1) Legal
2) Yes - if the person is in Canada, they can renew their PR card once they have accummulated 2 years of residency in Canada over the last five years.
3) No - you can't sponsor your spouse. If you try, CIC will likely start proceedings against you to revoke your PR status for failing to meet the residency obligation. You must wait until you have met the residency requirement and have a valid PR card.
4) An expired PR card shouldn't impact your ability to get a loan. However not having a job could very well affect your ability to get a loan. A bank will typically only give you a loan if you have a job and/or assets to back up that loan.
5) If you are a PR, then you don't qualify for a work permit. If you are not a PR, then no, you need an offer letter from a Canadian company and an approved LMO.

 

[confused soul]

Thanks for answering all my queires ok now I have come across this one case where a person called CBSA and gave information about people who are entering Canada just before P.r expiry to save their status and enjoy benefits later by becoming citizens.. CBSA opened up the file and assured investigation but they still managed to enter... So wanted to know does CBSA really investigate and take actions on tips provided to them under immigration fraud tips??? or they just mention it over web

 

[scylla]

So wanted to know does CBSA really investigate and take actions on tips provided to them under immigration fraud tips???

Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. Each case is individual.

 

[confused soul]

Thanks again for replying....

Ok further to my query discussed earlier i was just being told by my people that there is nothing called as a loan in Canada...
what is a usual pratice that u want to buy car/house you can buy it by paying some amount monthly so it doesnt really matter whether u r employed or not... for eg: u can buy car for 600 to 700 $ per month and the car is yours and u keep paying same month for agreed period of years.... all u cannot do is resale that car soon.... and same is applicable for house too.... Im too confused again on this please explain
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also they are pretty confident that they can arrange for necessary papers in 2 years n get there p.r cards and all this while for 2 years they dont need p.r card for anything... they feel this card only for entry and exit so to be safe they will not travel anywhr outside canada for 2 to 2.5 years

 

[confused soul]

Hi there


Some-one please help me buying answering my queries... Please Im seeking genuine help

 

[zardoz]

I think that you are talking to the wrong people out there. You seem to be getting bad or misleading information from them. Go to professional advisers, such as a bank for money advice or CIC for PR advice.

 

[Leon]

You can definitely get loans in Canada but for a house they call it a mortgage. You would go to a bank or a mortgage broker, tell them you want to buy and they will look at your data. If you do not have a job, they are unlikely to take the risk loaning you the money. They will also consider your credit history, that is how long you are doing business in Canada and if you are paying off your bills. They will tell you how much they will loan also depending on how much money you have for down payment. From that you see what you can afford to buy.

Any other loan kind of works the same way. Yes, you can buy cars on a payment plan, you can buy furniture on a payment plan or pretty much everything else but a car dealership would be stupid if they give you a brand new car on the promise that you will pay 700 a month if you are new in Canada and have no credit history and no job.

 

[confused soul]

Thanks aton to both of you....

but to tell you the fact my known people got used car on that concept by declaring they are jobless and still managed to get the car on the monthly payment of 600$ and they got information that even house also they can buy same way and infact planning to one.

and can some-one please explain what is this provisional card which is also a photo id and if you this card you are not entitled to get driving license..

 

[Leon]

I am sure most provinces ask for a PR card before they give you a drivers license. Most people use their drivers license for ID. Some provinces also offer a provincial ID card but it is not mandatory to have one but if you don't have a drivers license you could get one to use for ID. In some provinces, the health cards have your photo in which case you could use your health card for ID too.

It's hard to say about the car without knowing the details but because it is a used car, it is less risk for the dealership. A new car loses 5% in value just when you drive it off the lot but a used car will not lose too much value over a couple of months and if they don't pay, the dealership will take the car back.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

but to tell you the fact my known people got used car on that concept by declaring they are jobless and still managed to get the car on the monthly payment of 600$ and they got information that even house also they can buy same way and infact planning to one.

No financial institution in Canada would ever give a mortgage (loan to buy a house) to an unemployed person, so your "known people" are either lying or being given bad advice themselves.

As for the car, $600/month is a higher than normal payment, especially for a used car. Some used car dealerships make arrangements such as that with a person who has no credit or bad credit, usually with an agreement that one or two missed payment results in repossession of the car. They make the monthly payments a lot higher than normal to lessen the risk that they won't get all of their money.

 

[confused soul]

Thanks all of you

You people who I dont even know are seriously doing a great job by giving me so much of information....

Now apart from all these issues, major problem is that my partner cannot sponsor me into p.r.c category as his status one with expired p.r card
and since he was away from canada and havent met the residency obligations he is planning to stay for 2 years and then opt in for his p.r renewal so and i hold visitor visa for multiple entry for 5 years so what would be my case for how long legally i can stay with him on this visa?
is there any way-out that i can find out employers who hire people from outside canada and apply in those companies with the hope of getting recruited along with work-permit?

is there is any agency who can help me with my case?

 

[zardoz]

Thanks all of you

You people who I dont even know are seriously doing a great job by giving me so much of information....

Now apart from all these issues, major problem is that my partner cannot sponsor me into p.r.c category as his status one with expired p.r card
and since he was away from canada and havent met the residency obligations he is planning to stay for 2 years and then opt in for his p.r renewal so and i hold visitor visa for multiple entry for 5 years so what would be my case for how long legally i can stay with him on this visa?
is there any way-out that i can find out employers who hire people from outside canada and apply in those companies with the hope of getting recruited along with work-permit?

is there is any agency who can help me with my case?

The maximum permitted time for an unextended visit is, I think, 6 months. However, that might be reduced by the issuing of a Visitor Record, depending on the circumstances of your entry. Do not give the agents at the Point of Entry any reason to think that you are "residing" in Canada. You can certainly *search* for a job offer as a visitor. You then need to follow the correct procedure to apply for a work permit etc. Just don't be tempted to work as a visitor. Be very careful about using any form of agency. There are a lot that will scam you. If you ask here, maybe you could find a reliable one. If in doubt, ask...

 

[confused soul]

Thanks again

Friends, Can you all guide me that if I manage to get job offer letter from any company in canada. instead of that company only basis of offer letter can i apply for work permit for canadian embassy in my home country?

Can you all tell me what are the correct ways to approach companies in canada and what are the chances for people like me to get hired as an outsider?

Also I was going through few other queries so I want to understand what category is provisional nominee program. The case is that I come from admin background with the experience as front desk or executive assistant. So what the chances of me getting some good opportunity in similar field..

Also could guys can help me with some companies or websites where i can find jobs helping me to reach and start my career and life in canada?

 

[Leon]

Thanks again

Friends, Can you all guide me that if I manage to get job offer letter from any company in canada. instead of that company only basis of offer letter can i apply for work permit for canadian embassy in my home country?

Can you all tell me what are the correct ways to approach comapnies in canada and what are the chances for people like me to get hired as an outsider?

A simple letter of job offer is not enough to apply for a work permit. The employer needs to apply for an LMO from Service Canada to verify that they have advertised the job and found no qualified applicants as well as they are offering market wage for the job compared to similar jobs in the area. You can read about the LMO process here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/employers/lmo-basics.asp

If the employer gets the LMO, then you can use it to apply for a work permit. Then immigration will look at other things like if you are likely to overstay in Canada.

The way you look for a job is online, newspapers, help wanted signs or approaching companies directly. Make sure you tell the employer that you do not have a work permit and you will need an LMO. This will scare many employers away because they either don't want to deal with the process of LMO or they don't think they will get one but it also depends on your skills. If you have skills and experience that the employer needs, it will be easier for him to get an LMO but it is also possible if you are in a low unemployment area that you could look for a low badly paid job that nobody else wants and the employer can get an LMO based on that they have advertised the job and gotten no applicants.