I never thought about it but what would you do if it was refused?

[AllisonVSC]

We decided long ago that we had 4 options to resolving our long distance dilemma. 1. He could move to the US (which we tried for about 2.5 years), 2. I could move to Canada which he didn't think was a great idea (since I had "no experience living as an immigrant" or dealing with cold weather...he immigrated from France), 3. We could both move somewhere else (Vietnam was high on the list), or 4 we would make the toughest decision of all and end our relationship (no need to tell you guys but LDRs can suck the life right out of you) and try to move on with our separate lives.

We talked about it again once we applied and found out how tough the conjugal category was. We decided we would get married and apply again. But I'm pretty sure stating THAT at an interview would have killed our chances for approval both as conjugal partners and subsequently as spouses since it would then be a marriage of convenience!

 

[justina]

I would move to East Africa where my husband is from and we would eventually reapply outland. Because if they don't really want my husband here I guess they don't want me either!! It's been almost 10 months and I haven't been approved as a sponsor, so I have to wonder what is wrong with me!! It took 6 months from us applying for them to open my file. The IO I spoke to on the phone recently said there is nothing recorded on my file yet either.

We are planning on kids and want them to be born in Canada, but I don't have a problem raising them over there - as the saying goes, "It takes a village to raise a child" and that sentiment is more obvious in his culture than mine! I know life there will be very different than here, but I am okay with that, I have moved around a lot and adjust fairly well.

 

[minna]

If refused, we would stay in the US, and possibly move as close to Vancouver (my home town) as possible so we could still be near family. We thought about doing that first instead of applying for his PR, but realized that if we were going to move across the country, it would be just as stressful to move to a city where we don't really know anyone, as opposed to a city where we will have a place to stay when we arrive etc.

In terms of schools, health care, etc, I would rather be in Canada, but either way, we'll be together and with our baby and we'll be just fine. Since I am Canadian by descent, my child won't be Canadian automatically, and I would like to preserve that option for my children.

 

[iarblue]

Wow its great to hear that if all else fails you would go to wher ever you had to to be with your spouse.If only the Immigration officals read this site and could see this they would sure to have their minds set on who was going to fight for waht they want.
I dont know,cause i know i would have a huge problem as i have 2 girls from my ex and she has a boy 4 who only knows me as his dad so i know it would not go well,but as Toby said i would just make life hell for immigration until they gave it to her to shut me up lol.Even though im not in Brazil right now my boy sets a place at the table thinking i might walk in,he asks everyday when hes coming to Canada,he is driving my wife crazy with the questions,when they go to the mall he asks if everything he sees if Canada has it too.
Too funny he is the only boy i have and i cant imagine my life without him now.


And comp they sent her a two page letter she got it monday,it says on it that it was dated Saturday(weird)but it was a crazy letter,,,i sent you an IM

 

[iarblue]

Well i never found much difference from the US to Canada other than when you get further south things change.But as for the border states not much diff.Heck Michigan and Ohio have had worse winters than we did in Toronto,i would be driving across I90 in a raging blizzard come into Toronto and nothing.

 

[Miryam]

There is not alot on this forum for her to refer to as there is not a lot of people going through Sao Paulo.

If she is on Orkut, there are many forums about immigration to Canada, including for those women married to canadians. Nearly all of us have/had our applications processed in São Paulo.

Boa sorte!

 

[britincanada]

I have also been thinking about this question..my Husbands Sponsorship part says..Decision Made on E-CAS..and we are waiting for the letter to say what the decision is..however we are aware that he could be approved as sponsor we wait 3-10 months and I get denied..sad to say it happens all the time!

In the first instance we would Appeal..If appeal was denied we would most likely apply for his Visa for the UK..he is eligible to apply for UK Ancestry 5 year residency visa! We have a 3 1/2 year old daughter together with dual citizenship..however my Husband ALSO has twin sons from his previous marriage...they are now 14..so by the time my application is processed and an appeal is done I imagine they would be 17 or 18..is that a fair guess? How long do appeals drag out for?

 

[iarblue]

Oh i was looking to see if there were any other Sao Paulo people on here the only one i know is Computant.We email back and forth as his and my process are days appart.Ill have to let her know,im surprised she does not come on here more often but i think she would just get more stressed.She comes on a few times to see but not much.

 

[Mrs. Turan]

My husband had his interview and right now wer're thinking if they refuse then I'll go there to Turkey. My son is married and has a little family, and I would miss them so much. But I plan on appealing it after we've lived together long enough to prove it's a genuine marriage. So we will be back in Canada eventually. My Mom says we can stay there upon our return, and I have a place to store my stuff until we get back to Canada.
But I do have to say, I am really nervous about it. For one thing, I thought we'd get a little place together there. But my husband now says it is too expensive for us to move out on our own. We'll have to live with his family. Well I love his family but no privacy. If we move out on our own, possibly no washing machine, dishwasher, and no furniture, not even a bed.. At least for a little while. Well we argued about it for a while today and came to the conclusion that we just miss each other too much. Also, I need permission to do stuff on my own. He's not being sexist either. There is just certain protocols that a wife has to follow and right now I'm totally clueless.

 

[toby]

My husband had his interview and right now wer're thinking if they refuse then I'll go there to Turkey. My son is married and has a little family, and I would miss them so much. But I plan on appealing it after we've lived together long enough to prove it's a genuine marriage. So we will be back in Canada eventually. My Mom says we can stay there upon our return, and I have a place to store my stuff until we get back to Canada.
But I do have to say, I am really nervous about it. For one thing, I thought we'd get a little place together there. But my husband now says it is too expensive for us to move out on our own. We'll have to live with his family. Well I love his family but no privacy. If we move out on our own, possibly no washing machine, dishwasher, and no furniture, not even a bed.. At least for a little while. Well we argued about it for a while today and came to the conclusion that we just miss each other too much. Also, I need permission to do stuff on my own. He's not being sexist either. There is just certain protocols that a wife has to follow and right now I'm totally clueless.

What a terrible dilemma to be in. I sympathize with everyone who would have to make such a difficult decision.

We can never know this, but it would be interesting to know how many spousal PR applications are legitimate, how many are fraudulent -- to know how much protection all this lengthy investigation by CIC really provides to Canada. A rough guess is that the vast majority of applicants in this forum are genuine, yet look how much frustration and misery they have suffered at the hands of Visa Officers.

The must be better way. Why not just have each applicant undergo a lie-detector test and a medical exam? While these tests are not infallible, they surely are more reliable than a Visa Officer trying to decipher the truth from a cold, lifeless sheaf of documents and photos.

Of course, that would mean fewer jobs for Visa Officers, and the government union might object to that.

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[iarblue]

Well if someone fools immigration into believing them its only the sponsor and the sponsored that have to keep watching over their shoulder one mess up,one call from anyone and it could be all over.Sent back home and never to see Canada again.Not even as a visitor,and the sponsor could very well end up in jail for fraud.
So if people are coming in under the thinking they have fooled everyone,one day it does catch up,why do ou think apps take so long they are trying in everyway to find these people.They put through 250000 immigrants a year into Canada add on the refusals what a guess 350000 apps a year?There has to be a few in Canada that have fooled them.But like i said there is always someone more than willing to call crimestopers on them and make a cool $1000.00 for the report of the crime.There is always a co worker that want s you gone there is always a neighbour that wants you gone,and if they find out be sure they would call.
So who better to judge if you are lying or not than the IO's that have gone through 350000 applications a year,they have seen and heard everything.And if they hold up your app because of something you did wrong whos fault is that?
All we can do is our own apps and hope the others get caught.
I never want to be without my wife,and will do what ever i can to get her here.But i will never cross the line.There is always appeals,and if that dont work then do a new app and do it better than the first.

 

[Mrs. Turan]

Well I believe there are certainly cases of fraud but it sure doesn't feel good to hear that they might think my husband is a liar just because he was nervous at his interview and forgot the dates and names of a few things. My husband wants to come to Canada. We've struggled with the applications, some of which I wasn't even sure I did right, and his sister helped him fill out his. Neither of them speak english and my husband was determined to do it himself(even without the help of a cousin who speaks english-because he believes it's a private matter between him and me)
I heard some people hire a lawyer to do it, and maybe a translator in this case would have been helpful too. But we could never have afforded that! My husband told me he did not want to get a visitor Visa when we first started this process. He said it would be too hard to leave me, and did not want us to waste time because he was serious about leaving his home in Turkey and being with me. He believed that Canada would be fair to him. He's always been a good citizen, worked hard, never lied, and waited to find the right person he wanted to marry-ME
I love this man so much. I admire his work ethic, his total commitment to me, his integrity and his strong ties to his family and their beliefs. If he gets refused we're not going to give up. But it sure does put a damper on things knowing that when I move to Turkey for a year or so, it is only to prove a genuine marriage which is obvious to everyone that knows us in Turkey and on Vancouver Island.

 

[MikeUK]

We've been thinking about this one as well. We're living together in London at the moment and I'm here as a Highly Skilled Migrant Worker. My next step in the UK Immigration process would be to apply for Indefinite Leave to Remain (ILR), so if our application to immigrate to Canada is refused, we would appeal and at the same time I would file for ILR here in the UK so we could continue to live together while awaiting a decision. If the appeal was denied, then we'd start our family here in the UK and reapply to Canada in the future.

It wouldn't be our first choice, but as backup plans go it's pretty good. I'm very hopeful that our application will be seen as straightforward and the proof we've included (all 200 pages of it!) will be enough to have the interview waived!

M.

 

[life is beautiful]

Hi Tina, any news from Ankara office?

 

[Mrs. Turan]

I'm hoping today is the day we hear news. How long does it take a letter to get from Ankara to Istanbul? Their mail even runs on Saturday.