H&C Humanitarian Ground with/or Without Failed refugee claim

[stallion1982]

The real beneficiaries of this entire situation are fraudulent refugee claimants, who gain access to work permits, healthcare, and various other benefits from the moment they submit their claims. They have little concern about delays in processing — even if it takes 10 years for IRCC to reach a decision — since they can continue enjoying these benefits in the meantime.

Another group benefiting from this issue are those filing questionable work permit extensions, as they are allowed to keep working while their applications remain under review. Pausing IRCC’s processing of such cases is not the right approach; instead, the focus should be on swift screening and prompt decision-making to prevent misuse of the system.

 

[stallion1982]

Instead of resorting to a mass cancellation of applications under Bill C-12, IRCC should prioritize swift screening and the rejection of fraudulent claims, which does not appear to be its current approach.

 

[canuck78]

Instead of resorting to a mass cancellation of applications under Bill C-12, IRCC should prioritize swift screening and the rejection of fraudulent claims, which does not appear to be its current approach.

For H&C that would still be very labour intensive, setting parameters of what would qualify for processing would be difficult and it would still likely lead to a large number of applications that would need to be processed. Processing times could still end up being decades. We’ll all need to wait and see.

 

[stallion1982]

For H&C that would still be very labour intensive, setting parameters of what would qualify for processing would be difficult and it would still likely lead to a large number of applications that would need to be processed. Processing times could still end up being decades. We’ll all need to wait and see.

While IRCC does not process applications without charge, current fees may not fully reflect the actual cost of processing. If that is the case, the department should review its fee structure and strengthen its operational capacity to ensure applications are processed within reasonable timelines. Continuing to collect processing fees without delivering timely service risks creating the perception that the system itself is being mismanaged, rather than applicants taking advantage of it. So its a both side affair here.

 

[sting 000]

Instead of resorting to a mass cancellation of applications under Bill C-12, IRCC should prioritize swift screening and the rejection of fraudulent claims, which does not appear to be its current approach.

Like quebec did in skilled worker program!!adding country cap in bill c-12 in all ircc Pr applications will go a long way,no country will have more than 15 to 20% in total pr Admission each year in the public interest.
And in new temporary residents admissions study permit and work permits in the next 2years.

 

[canuck78]

While IRCC does not process applications without charge, current fees may not fully reflect the actual cost of processing. If that is the case, the department should review its fee structure and strengthen its operational capacity to ensure applications are processed within reasonable timelines. Continuing to collect processing fees without delivering timely service risks creating the perception that the system itself is being mismanaged, rather than applicants taking advantage of it. So its a both side affair here.

I was speaking about reviewing all the applications for merit and only canceling some. If cancelled applicants typically get their processing fees returned. The cost and time of reviewing all applications to determine who should be processed is not a god use of resources for IRCC. IRCC has in the past cancelled programs and let people apply again under a new program/criteria if they qualify. Current processing times have very little with staffing and mostly has to do with quota allocated which is very small. IRCC is not going to increase capacity to approve cases faster because they have limited quota and it would just add to the AIP backlog. It already has a major issue with AIP backlogs. The system was not meant for applicants to spend long periods of time between AIP & PR. AIP also doesn’t guarantee PR so the longer it takes the higher chance circumstances may change which could lead to a refusal of the application.

 

[canuck78]

Like quebec did in skilled worker program!!adding country cap in bill c-12 in all ircc Pr applications will go a long way,no country will have more than 15 to 20% in total pr Admission each year in the public interest.
And in new temporary residents admissions study permit and work permits in the next 2years.

Don’t think that type of change needs to be passed in a bill.

 

[need-aip]

Just wait November 4, 2025.

 

[need-aip]

Key concerns:

• Extraordinary authority to cancel, vary, or suspend certain categories of documents including permanent resident visas and permanent resident cards without recourse to the principles of procedural fairness and due process that have been long established in Canada;
• Untrammeled discretion to cancel, vary, or suspend certain categories of applications (permanent, temporary, travel-related) without review;
• “Public interest” standard is vague and undefined;
• Retroactive termination of valid applications;
• Powers to cancel, suspend, or vary visas, permits, and PR cards for broad classes of people—without notice or opportunity to respond.

 

[need-aip]

https://cila.co/bill-c-12-introduce...ation-law-under-the-guise-of-border-security/

 

[stallion1982]

Just wait November 4, 2025.

what is on November 04?

 

[need-aip]

what is on November 04?

Federal Government to announce Immigration Levels Plan.

 

[canuck78]

Although one country has had a major impact there are many countries overrepresented. Who can enter Canada has a major impact on who can apply. Canada also has some very generous refugee programs that just adds to backlog.

 

[canuck78]

The asylum system like many systems are built on trust Canada is also as a signatory to The Hague convention. There was apparently an attempt to do something last year but was prevented at higher levels. Pure delusion, zero common sense and no longterm modeling is how immigration got so screwed up in Canada. Also many making big money from high immigration levels became big supporters of their local government representatives.

 

[WellWell2021]

Key concerns:

• Extraordinary authority to cancel, vary, or suspend certain categories of documents including permanent resident visas and permanent resident cards without recourse to the principles of procedural fairness and due process that have been long established in Canada;
• Untrammeled discretion to cancel, vary, or suspend certain categories of applications (permanent, temporary, travel-related) without review;
• “Public interest” standard is vague and undefined;
• Retroactive termination of valid applications;
• Powers to cancel, suspend, or vary visas, permits, and PR cards for broad classes of people—without notice or opportunity to respond.

I never thought this bill would also target permanent residents…
I honestly don’t think that’s the case, because the Charter explicitly protects the rights of permanent residents in Canada, and it would be illogical to strip them of their status for so-called public interest reasons, unless there are extremely serious grounds related to criminality or fraud.
But taking away someone’s permanent residency just because Canada wants to reduce the number of permanent residents would be purely unconstitutional.
Saying that is almost like saying Canada wants to revoke citizenship from naturalized citizens simply because there are too many of them… (well, it’s not exactly the same thing, but almost).
I feel like we’re all trying to interpret this bill when it’s not even clear yet… and we’re starting to imagine consequences that sound more like something out of a totalitarian regime at this point.