H&C Humanitarian Ground with/or Without Failed refugee claim

[fagsey]

You should send a message to niagara directly or to the officer in charge of your file that way you know what is happening to your file

Every time I call...it goes through all the messages....and I choose to be called back., usually they call back in about 20 minutes

 

[WellWell2021]

Hi, may I know if the work permit issued after receiving the AIP is linked to the validity of the passport? I'm still waiting for AIP but I just want to know this information

 

[wiener]

Anyone has noticed that processing times were not updated since June 3rd. I wonder if this is normal?

 

[FNU]

Anyone has noticed that processing times were not updated since June 3rd. I wonder if this is normal?

I have noticed that but we can do nothing.

 

[canuck78]

No, I'm still waiting, and what is stressing me the most right now is my kids. I'm very worried about how to pay their tuition fees. My eldest is studying law at university, and the second one is studying cybersecurity at college

I've been waiting since November 2022, and this is my second application. The first one was refused in August 2022 after 15 months.

Are your children international students or are they part of your H&C application? They are adults and assume you have already spoken to them about your ability to support their studies when they applied to schools. You should be having conversations with your children now if you don’t have the funds to pay for their studies so they can approach their schools about potential options. If they are international students they can apply for a 1 year WP due to financial distress. It may not be your first choice but your children may need to take a year off and work. If your children are part of your H&C application they likely have a much better chance if they apply on their own although I can’t see your previous to know your immigration history.

 

[Dietmar_baumwolle]

Hi all, I have a question about the medical exam for H&C. I am at the “verifying eligibility and background check” stage and it says a medical is not required. Does IRCC ask for a medical in H&C after the aforementioned checks are completed or does it depend on the applicants nationality? For example, would they ask for a medical for a national of Madagascar but not ask for a medical for a national of the United States?

 

[canuck78]

For our situation: my dad is on home-dialysis. He sees hospital staff 2-3 times a year only, and that too for no more than 10 minutes of specialist time and 20 minutes of nurse time. Apart from that, he is not at all occupying the healthcare facility. So, the impact on overall wait times is negligible.

For general scenario: I have been thru this process and I can assure you that officers are doing their job right. The process of getting an exemption for medical was insanely hard and they really checked there is no other reasonable way for my dad's life to go if he does not stay with me. You are not aware of this 4 year journey and the amount of points/documentation/proofs we had to provide. I can for sure say that the system is working and there is a barrier in place to protect canadians and tax-payers. However, if we look thru the same lense of "people abusing the system" then the H&C category should not exist. While I respect your opinion, we must keep this in mind that officers are also Canadians and they are always inclined to protect the people of Canada.

Can assure you that most immigration officers have no idea about what happens in the healthcare system unless they have a family member who works in healthcare and they hear them talk about the struggles in the system. If they did you’re right H&C would be tough to justify and so would the
length of a supervisa and PGP. You do realize they a home dialysis machine is limited resource so exactly the same as occupying a spot in a healthcare facility? Someone is typically waiting for a home dialysis machine when one becomes available and there is limited capacity in a region to provide supplies and deliver them to home dialysis patients, only so many patients a home dialysis coordinator can manage, etc. Assume your father has to do routine blood work and the phlebotomist can only collect a a certain number of samples per day and can only see a certain amount of patients, the lab can only run so many tests per day, etc. Dialysis is very resource heavy even at home which is why kidney disease is likely the most common reason for supervisa and PGP refusals. The blood work done during for an immigration medical is a basic CBC and then tests for communicable diseases and kidney disease. As someone who works in healthcare and also has uses the healthcare system It is insane that the government actively makes the healthcare crisis worse over and over again.

 

[canuck78]

Hi all, I have a question about the medical exam for H&C. I am at the “verifying eligibility and background check” stage and it says a medical is not required. Does IRCC ask for a medical in H&C after the aforementioned checks are completed or does it depend on the applicants nationality? For example, would they ask for a medical for a national of Madagascar but not ask for a medical for a national of the United States?

Depending the applicant the medical may be requested before or after AIP. Most applications are not even opened for over 1.5 years there is no rush to ask for a medical to be done. Has nothing to do with nationality.

 

[Neel_Mistry]

Can assure you that most immigration officers have no idea about what happens in the healthcare system unless they have a family member who works in healthcare and they hear them talk about the struggles in the system. If they did you’re right H&C would be tough to justify and so would the
length of a supervisa and PGP. You do realize they a home dialysis machine is limited resource so exactly the same as occupying a spot in a healthcare facility? Someone is typically waiting for a home dialysis machine when one becomes available and there is limited capacity in a region to provide supplies and deliver them to home dialysis patients, only so many patients a home dialysis coordinator can manage, etc. Assume your father has to do routine blood work and the phlebotomist can only collect a a certain number of samples per day and can only see a certain amount of patients, the lab can only run so many tests per day, etc. Dialysis is very resource heavy even at home which is why kidney disease is likely the most common reason for supervisa and PGP refusals. The blood work done during for an immigration medical is a basic CBC and then tests for communicable diseases and kidney disease. As someone who works in healthcare and also has uses the healthcare system It is insane that the government actively makes the healthcare crisis worse over and over again.

From all of what you said, I can say that you do not have idea about dialysis system in canada at all.

No, dialysis machine is not a scarce resource. The dialysis supplier have an inventory of machines not being used.

There is no extensive bloodwork or anything. Blood work is done 1 week before clinic appointment and that is 2-3 times a year. There is nothing special about this blood work. Just normal cbc and electrolytes, etc.

I have experience and proofs of it. I have spoken to the provincial authorities, gathered information, and spoke to the nephrologist who is in the middle of everything. Dialysis at home uses the toilet to flush down the waste fluid so our utility bill is a bit high but thats on us.

I am not sure how you are so convinced on your views without having in-depth info.

In-hospital dialysis is a whole different story though. And I agree on your views there.

 

[Dietmar_baumwolle]

Depending the applicant the medical may be requested before or after AIP. Most applications are not even opened for over 1.5 years there is no rush to ask for a medical to be done. Has nothing to do with nationality.

Is "verifying eligibility" the stage 1 decision that is mentioned? Or is it two different checks?

 

[Rooto]

https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/articles/cdx5lzj2z8ko.amp
That’s why they’re not doing their job and they are just playing games with us, I have never seen a corrupt system like the Canadian immigration system.