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H&C Humanitarian Ground with/or Without Failed refugee claim

RaiSaab108

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Nov 3, 2019
201
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We are pleased to inform you that your request for an exemption from these
requirements for the purpose of processing this application has been approved.
In addition, you have been granted an exemption from the following requirement of the Immigration
and Refugee Protection Act:
• A38(1)(c) Medical inadmissibility
You must meet all other requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and its
Regulations, such as medical, security, passport and arrangements for your care and support. As your
application is processed, separate decisions will be made about whether you meet these other
Congratulations @Ramone1 to you and your family.

Am super worried now that my lawyer updated the immigration about my wife's illness but never asked for exemption from medical inadmissibility. Can we ask for medical exemption after Aip ?
May I have your lawyer's number to discuss. I will pay consultation fee. Please help.
 

RaiSaab108

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Nov 3, 2019
201
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Congratulations @Ramone1 to you and your family.

Am super worried now that my lawyer updated the immigration about my wife's illness but never asked for exemption from medical inadmissibility. Can we ask for medical exemption after Aip ?
May I have your lawyer's number to discuss. I will pay consultation fee. Please help.
This is why I don't trust lawyers from the very beginning I did all the research and provided all the evidence to my idiot lawyer. She fixed the fee at $ 6000 and layer on after submitting the application , she sent a bill of $12000.
Nothing was suggested by her but I read the federal court judgements and did all the work. But when my wife was in the hospital for about two months for open heart surgery , I couldn't think much about medical inadmissibility. And now the fear of medical admissibility is over our heads because we never applied for medical exemption.
Moral of my story is Never trust lawyers and do your own research and double check the lawyers whAt they are doing for you.
 

prenz_24

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Feb 16, 2021
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Update
1 @Akash2019 (AIP)
2 @Jaxico (In process)
3 @Omerkhan (federal court)
4 @tony4454 (Decision made)
5 @Latin40
6 @Fayamufi
7 @Mhy0811 ( decision made )
8 @Teddy2020 (decision made )
9 @Akitai (decision made)
10 @Ramone1 (AIP)
11 @RaiSaab108 ( Aip )
12 @prenz_24 ( unknown)
13 @Manswa (AIP)
14 @Canadagee
15 @GrecchiJu 2021

4.positive..........................4 Negative
Sadly 3 guys got refusal from this list
The list is over A few guys left will soon get answerI’m wishing you guys good luck be positive
Sorry nothing to share. Still waiting in process almost 7 months
 
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bella12

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Jul 10, 2019
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This is why I don't trust lawyers from the very beginning I did all the research and provided all the evidence to my idiot lawyer. She fixed the fee at $ 6000 and layer on after submitting the application , she sent a bill of $12000.
Nothing was suggested by her but I read the federal court judgements and did all the work. But when my wife was in the hospital for about two months for open heart surgery , I couldn't think much about medical inadmissibility. And now the fear of medical admissibility is over our heads because we never applied for medical exemption.
Moral of my story is Never trust lawyers and do your own research and double check the lawyers whAt they are doing for you.
I hope everybody in this forum has read this comment from RaiSaab108 : Moral of my story is Never trust lawyers and do your own research and double-check the lawyers whAt they are doing for you.

You are 100% spot on. I can't stress this enough!

To everybody using a new lawyer (including me)

Just because you have a lawyer does not mean sh*t. you have to do MOST of the work yourself. do NOT always trust all they tell you. seek a second opinion from people that have been through the h&c process. Lawyers( good or bad) do NOT give a rat ass about a client application. what is MORE important to them is "money". Win or Loose, they will always get their money off you!

Never depend so much on them. I lost about 10,000 dollars in making this mistake in my first application. when a lawyer tells you something that does not make sense to you, SEEK A SECOND OPINION FROM SOMEONE WHO has BEEN THROUGH THE H&c PROCESS ( FOR EXAMPLE, THIS FORUM HAVE Experienced people that have been through it)

Lastly, ensure you are monitoring and always checking the work they are doing for you. don't trust what they say with their mouth. Insist you want to see evidence of what they have done!
 
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wello711

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Feb 11, 2021
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Guys can i know how to link my h&c application to my ecas account ?
I know that office received my file according to Fedex but I didn't receive the confirmation from ircc.

i don't have AOR yet so i don't know the application number but i have my ICU number.
may i know if AOR means that the application is complete ?
 
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tony4454

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Nov 20, 2020
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I hope everbofy is in this forum have read this comment from RaiSaab108 : Moral of my story is Never trust lawyers and do your own research and double-check the lawyers whAt they are doing for you.

You are 100% spot on. I can't stress this enough!

To everybody using a lawyer (including me)

Just because you have a lawyer does not mean sh*t. you have to do MOST of the work yourself. do NOT always trust all they tell you. seek a second opinion from people that have been through the h&c process. Lawyers( good or bad) do NOT give a rat ass about a client application. what is MORE important to them is "money". Win or Loose, they will always get their money off you!

Never depend so much on them. I lost about 10,000 dollars in making this mistake in my first application. when a lawyer tells you something that does not make sense to you, SEEK A SECOND OPINION FROM SOMEONE WHO has BEEN THROUGH THE H&c PROCESS ( FOR EXAMPLE, THIS FORUM HAVE Experienced people that have been through it)

Lastly, ensure you are monitoring and always checking the work they are doing for you. don't trust what they say with their mouth. Insist you want to see evidence of what they have done!
True, i am in the same boat as you. Lost 10k as well but now will be cautious
 
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Katayoon

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I hope everybody in this forum has read this comment from RaiSaab108 : Moral of my story is Never trust lawyers and do your own research and double-check the lawyers whAt they are doing for you.

You are 100% spot on. I can't stress this enough!

To everybody using a new lawyer (including me)

Just because you have a lawyer does not mean sh*t. you have to do MOST of the work yourself. do NOT always trust all they tell you. seek a second opinion from people that have been through the h&c process. Lawyers( good or bad) do NOT give a rat ass about a client application. what is MORE important to them is "money". Win or Loose, they will always get their money off you!

Never depend so much on them. I lost about 10,000 dollars in making this mistake in my first application. when a lawyer tells you something that does not make sense to you, SEEK A SECOND OPINION FROM SOMEONE WHO has BEEN THROUGH THE H&c PROCESS ( FOR EXAMPLE, THIS FORUM HAVE Experienced people that have been through it)

Lastly, ensure you are monitoring and always checking the work they are doing for you. don't trust what they say with their mouth. Insist you want to see evidence of what they have done!
yes absolutely agree. Our last lawyer said it is pointless to file new HC application after we got refused second time. And that filing JR is also pretty much pointless. She said to wait for CBSA to schedule deportation and then we will file stay of removal (for 10,000$ of course).

Previous lawyer told us to leave Canada and look for a new country to settle in (what a great piece of advice - we paid 300$ for consultation!)

I did not buy that. I cancelled all of them and I remembered one guy on the forum from Alberta who said he re-applied fresh HC after refusal and got approved. So I told my spouse - "let's try again, we don't lose anything. Until you get deported, you are eligible to keep trying."

and we applied 3rd time ourselves and it worked this time.

Listen to lawyers' opinion but don't take it as the universal truth. Don't let anyone write your future other than yourself.
 

MelJohn

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Mar 16, 2020
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Guys can i know how to link my h&c application to my ecas account ?
I know that office received my file according to Fedex but I didn't receive the confirmation from ircc.

i don't have AOR yet so i don't know the application number but i have my ICU number.
may i know if AOR means that the application is complete ?
When you receive AOR you can log into ECAS to see your application updates
 
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canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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Does your wife need ongoing treatment? If not then her costs in the future will be low although you will be responsible for repaying your current medical costs.
 
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Akash2019

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Aug 25, 2019
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This is why I don't trust lawyers from the very beginning I did all the research and provided all the evidence to my idiot lawyer. She fixed the fee at $ 6000 and layer on after submitting the application , she sent a bill of $12000.
Nothing was suggested by her but I read the federal court judgements and did all the work. But when my wife was in the hospital for about two months for open heart surgery , I couldn't think much about medical inadmissibility. And now the fear of medical admissibility is over our heads because we never applied for medical exemption.
Moral of my story is Never trust lawyers and do your own research and double check the lawyers whAt they are doing for you.
Agreed with you my laywer is really good person but as per my previous experience I double check my h&c before submitting so I got some errors in date of births and some in uci numbers so I also suggest people as mr Raisaab said you must check your application before submitting
 

canuck78

VIP Member
Jun 18, 2017
39,640
9,271
Hey, we had really bad week 5 refusals
There were quite a few approvals and H&C is difficult to get, you don’t expect all to be approved. Have you indicated what part of the world you are from? The member doesn’t feel that you would face huge hardship in returning home. Hard to know how reasonable or unreasonable that suggestion is without knowing where you are from or at least the general area.
 

tony4454

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Nov 20, 2020
357
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There were quite a few approvals and H&C is difficult to get, you don’t expect all to be approved. Have you indicated what part of the world you are from? The member doesn’t feel that you would face huge hardship in returning home. Hard to know how reasonable or unreasonable that suggestion is without knowing where you are from or at least the general area.
Hey, yeah my lawyer messed up didn’t provide much evidence. I am from one of the shittedt asian country which is so fucked up right now. i told my lawyer everything but he didnt attxh all evidence that i told him to. And i got one if the shittedt officer who picked up little detail and asked for evidence which my lawyer didn’t sent.
 

Canadagee

Full Member
Sep 27, 2018
29
10
Sorry nothing to share. Still waiting in process almost 7 months
Nothing to share from my side either, 10 months since we got AOR, we are nervous cause some people having 8-10 years in Canada got refused, we have 3 years only, just hope everything can be good in our H&C application
 
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GrecchiJu

Star Member
Apr 29, 2021
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Nothing to share from my side either, 10 months since we got AOR, we are nervous cause some people having 8-10 years in Canada got refused, we have 3 years only, just hope everything can be good in our H&C application
Don’t worry about how long you are here. What really matters is what you could acomplish in this time and your humanitarian reasons. I personally know a family that had been living here for only for 2,5 years when they applied and they got their PR months ago.
 
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Akash2019

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Aug 25, 2019
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Nothing to share from my side either, 10 months since we got AOR, we are nervous cause some people having 8-10 years in Canada got refused, we have 3 years only, just hope everything can be good in our H&C application
I am here from 3 and half year and got aip every case is different so don't lose hope but prepared for the worst to, hope you got good news soon