H&C Humanitarian Ground with/or Without Failed refugee claim

[wiener]

Wouldn’t count on that especially for general H&C. If IRCC didn’t have mass cancellations in mind for some programs they wouldn’t be pursing things like bill c-12 and would have allocated more quota to H&C especially general H&C. Given the number of temporary residents in Canada and the plan to reduce volume dramatically this has to involve things like mass cancellations of some programs and the prevention of applying for H&C and asylum if you have no pathway to PR. It would also be incredibly difficult to screen all the H&C applications if IRCC decided they would not cancel general H&C but would have a very strict criteria. It is much less complicated and expensive to start from scratch. The liberals had planned on bill c-12 being passed much earlier but they are essentially waiting for bill c-12 to pass before likely announcing their plans. This also gets tricky because as a minor they have to find some MPs to pass it. Assuming this will be challenge in court but most will have no legal way to stay as any challenges make it makes it through the courts. Would personally operate as if the program will be cancelled and have a plan B, C, D, etc.

I think the goal of the initial plan under Bill C-12 seems to be reducing the number of temporary residents not by removing roughly three million people already here — many of whom have lived in Canada for over five years — but by transitioning a significant portion of them to permanent residency. These long-term residents are ‘temporary’ only on paper, and it makes more sense for the government to regularize their status rather than remove them. However, in proposed amendments of bill C12 there is provision that seek to block this. Hopefully, this provision is not incorporated in the third reading and some liberal and NDP MPs push the government to regularize status of 3 million temporary residents in Canada.
https://www.ourcommons.ca/DocumentViewer/en/45-1/SECU/report-2

 

[Buletruck]

I think the goal of the initial plan under Bill C-12 seems to be reducing the number of temporary residents not by removing roughly three million people already here — many of whom have lived in Canada for over five years — but by transitioning a significant portion of them to permanent residency. These long-term residents are ‘temporary’ only on paper, and it makes more sense for the government to regularize their status rather than remove them. However, in proposed amendments of bill C12 there is provision that seek to block this. Hopefully, this provision is not incorporated in the third reading and some liberal and NDP MPs push the government to regularize status of 3 million temporary residents in Canada.
https://www.ourcommons.ca/DocumentViewer/en/45-1/SECU/report-2

So the problem with regularizing 3 million temporary residents is it would set precedence going forward that would allow anyone who manages to remain in Canada, regardless of status, to demand permenent residency, as long as they've been here a certain amount of time.
Never going to happen. It would be political sucide (there's a reason the NDP have never formed a federal government).