H&C Humanitarian Ground with/or Without Failed refugee claim
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The issue is that H&C is still not a great option for most. Processing times are very long with no guarantees of approval.I am not suggesting that you can return home and apply for PR right away. I am suggesting that you return home and work towards qualifying for PR whether that be improving your language scores, learning French, getting international work experience, returning to school, getting work experience in an NOC needed in Canada, etc. These all may be faster options in the end.
There are rare exceptional cases of many different types of applications but H&C was never meant for applicants whose scores did not qualify them for all economic programs or as a way to circumvent things like the PGP program if you didn’t get selected or are tired of waiting. I pointed out that the volume of H&C applicants is not only related to parents and grandparents. H&C was meant for rare extraordinary circumstances that you typically couldn’t have anticipated or planned for.
So although economic ineligibility alone doesn’t justify an H&C application but someone may still qualify if there are other genuine, compelling reasons such as :
Significant hardship due to medical conditions or lack of access to treatment in the home country
Long-term establishment in Canada with deep community ties
Risk of serious harm or discrimination back home not addressed by other immigration processes
Situations where family reunification is seriously compromised.they can be ,failed asylum seekers,temporary residents and international students.
Failed asylum seekers are entitled to H and C, especially if they have families. Theses cases usually involve best interest of children, and families will face hardship if removed from Canada. Some of them are from war torn/unstable countries and can not be removed from Canada. It makes alot of sense to grant them PR on H and C consideration. Even international students may qualify if they have children and apply for H and C as last resort. It is different situation for parent/grandparents because there is special program for them.
Did I ever say they weren’t entitled to apply? If from a war torn country they should have had their asylum claim approved. Not sure why PGP would be only group that you would exclude. For example if you claimed asylum and were refused as well as refused RAD and JR you are in a similar position as parents and grandparents in that you had a category dedicated to asylum seekers. The current system has encouraged many people who don’t have clear grounds for an asylum claim to claim asylum and exhaust all the options and the file an H&C claim. In many cases the goal is really to claim H&C but the asylum claims allows a person to remain in Canada for an extended period of time and gives someone the chance to establish themself. Same issue for international students they have access to the economic immigration pathways. It would be impossible to accept all applicants who have established lives in Canada and may face hardship if they return home. As international students there was never a guaranteed pathway to remain in Canada and receive PR. There are of course exceptions. For example if a family member is facing a serious health issue and there is no available treatment in their home country that would represent exceptional circumstances that couldn’t have been anticipated. Given the small yearly allocation for H&C which is for all H&C programs including H&C for Sudanese, Ukranians, Colombia/Nicaragua/Venezuela, etc. it would be impossible to approve anyone who has not qualified for asylum or other PR programs. Processing time of many years which is going to get much longer also does not benefit the applicants or Canada. We will have to wait and see how IRCC tackles the H&C program but it is no working under the current system and many have come to see this as a catch all for anyone who has not been able to secure PR which was never the purpose of the program. Canada is trying to reduce the volume of temporary workers and decrease the number of annual PRs so there will be likely be changes that people will feel is unfair. There is also a huge number of asylum claimants and many will get l denied which will lead to more pressure on the H&C program unless there are reforms. It is unclear what these reforms will look like but the volume of H&C applicants needs to decrease. The cost of processing is also a major issue. People should be working toward a plan B and start leaning French during their H&C processing learning French for example.
I love the FB group. People are more straight forward and answer questions to be helpful. Canuck your long rants are so exhausting, stick to the point. I saw someone ask you how to track h&c application and your response was “track what”…. or something along those lines. A simple answer could suffice. Are you ok? The only thing that separates you from the guy spamming this group is that you are helpful sometimes, but other than that CALM down Mr H&C quota reformer.
Who made you the voice of IRCC.
I want to scratch my eyes out each time you go on these long winded thesis statements about IRCC.
Who made you the voice of IRCC.
I want to scratch my eyes out each time you go on these long winded thesis statements about IRCC.
They would have to leave Canada but once out of Canada yes they could then apply. If you are fluent in French would suggest calculating what your CRS score would be a look at your options especially if you plan on settling outside Quebec. Being fluent in French is one for the best and easiest way to secure PR these days. Would suggest speaking to an immigration lawyer to create a plan if you are considering your options. The Carney government has already stated that they plan on maintaining French immigration levels with the goal of increasing the percentage of French applicants to 12% of all economic pathway PRs.
https://nccanadaimmigration.com/mark-carney-2025-canada-immigration-plan/
Nothing stopping you from hitting ignore on my posts. Many don’t realize that nothing happens to H&C files after AOR for 1-1.5 years so there is no point in tracking applications like for other forms of PR. For example in spousal sponsorship there are somewhat regular updates and movement of an application which makes tracking from the date you apply worthwhile. Currently there is very little movement when it comes to H&C applications in general.
Folks
I need advice please,my h and c application is in progress and temporary resident permit/visitor record extension application was refused today,does it mean a negative decision on my H and C application is on the way?the letter says to leave Canada immediately,but if I leave canada,it will jeopardize my H and C application,what should I do now?just sit ideal and do nothing or should apply for restoration of status?
I need advice please,my h and c application is in progress and temporary resident permit/visitor record extension application was refused today,does it mean a negative decision on my H and C application is on the way?the letter says to leave Canada immediately,but if I leave canada,it will jeopardize my H and C application,what should I do now?just sit ideal and do nothing or should apply for restoration of status?
@Mahisharm honestly i want to know too because it seems they are deliberately ignoring the second stage approval and the wait is killing.
The Quota actually hasn't started. Someone posted in the H&C FB group that most likely they'll work Stage 2 from Jul - Nov. Otherwise if they work them in Q1, Q2 then they won't have any "progress" to show in Q3, Q4.
I don’t even know what to do except just waiting and thinking about it, it’s been exactly nine months from the day I received AIP and almost 7 months from when I received address confirmation request and nothing else so far…
I highly doubt the 2025 quota is reached, if I remember correctly the person who got their address request on Oct 30 got the FD on 27 Oct and then by January first week ecopr, that’s the last person recived ecopr under h & c, after that I have not seen a single person on fb groups or here who received any more updates except address
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