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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
I got ghost update few days ago and noticed that my Background check changed from "We are processing your background check. We shall contact you if we need more information" (which has been the message for months) to "Your application is in progress. We will send you a message when we start your background check"..
@legalfalcon pls can you help with clarification..
The BGC refers to criminality and security. This is why the BGC status changes twice during the processing of the application. Since your AoR is Feb, it may be very likely that criminality, info sharing and Eligibility is passed and security is in progress or even passed.

To read on security and BGC see https://bit.ly/2JPCk2g
 

recent_grad

Star Member
Dec 21, 2019
130
74
Category........
FSW
Hi folks. I just spoke with a friend, who is an FSW Outland applicant with AOR in September 2020, and he got his COPR approved on January 5, very shortly after submitting his biometrics on December 21. He also says that his wait time seems to be mostly due to him not being able to submit biometrics for a long time, because Canadian VAC in his home country reopened only on Dec 21.

This is extremely disrespectful, frustrating and unfair that IRCC has been massively ignoring earlier applications (especially those with AOR in Jan-April) telling COVID-related excuses, while processing the ones that were submitted much later so quickly. The only possible explanation for this is that there was a calculated decision by IRCC management to focus on recent applications, so that they meet their bullshit metrics that have a horizon of 6 months, and so that they are able to say "We've managed to process 95% of applications that we received within the last 6 months" when they report to their leadership. They probably don't even track metrics beyond 6 months, and our applications are irrelevant from the "business perspective". What a shame.
 

Carmen01

Hero Member
Oct 13, 2020
710
724
Hi folks. I just spoke with a friend, who is an FSW Outland applicant with AOR in September 2020, and he got his COPR approved on January 5, very shortly after submitting his biometrics on December 21. He also says that his wait time seems to be mostly due to him not being able to submit biometrics for a long time, because Canadian VAC in his home country reopened only on Dec 21.

This is extremely disrespectful, frustrating and unfair that IRCC has been massively ignoring earlier applications (especially those with AOR in Jan-April) telling COVID-related excuses, while processing the ones that were submitted much later so quickly. The only possible explanation for this is that there was a calculated decision by IRCC management to focus on recent applications, so that they meet their bullshit metrics that have a horizon of 6 months, and so that they are able to say "We've managed to process 95% of applications that we received within the last 6 months" when they report to their leadership. They probably don't even track metrics beyond 6 months, and our applications are irrelevant from the "business perspective". What a shame.
But aren’t there different LVOs involved when it comes to applications? Most offices are handling according to their region , while it is unfair it’s just the way things are right now thanks to the pandemic.

Before COVID, Ottawa VO was the best place to get your file processed or transferred to and Accra took average of 12months and even more to finalize. Right now Accra is processing within 3-4months and people think it’s the place to be .

There isn’t much anyone can do rather than wait
 

Said1010

Star Member
Jan 23, 2020
78
5
Hi folks. I just spoke with a friend, who is an FSW Outland applicant with AOR in September 2020, and he got his COPR approved on January 5, very shortly after submitting his biometrics on December 21. He also says that his wait time seems to be mostly due to him not being able to submit biometrics for a long time, because Canadian VAC in his home country reopened only on Dec 21.

This is extremely disrespectful, frustrating and unfair that IRCC has been massively ignoring earlier applications (especially those with AOR in Jan-April) telling COVID-related excuses, while processing the ones that were submitted much later so quickly. The only possible explanation for this is that there was a calculated decision by IRCC management to focus on recent applications, so that they meet their bullshit metrics that have a horizon of 6 months, and so that they are able to say "We've managed to process 95% of applications that we received within the last 6 months" when they report to their leadership. They probably don't even track metrics beyond 6 months, and our applications are irrelevant from the "business perspective". What a shame.
Does this mean that the old dated application will be cancel upon the becomming dates.
@legalfalcon
 

joaliriano

Star Member
Sep 18, 2020
121
73
I got ghost update few days ago and noticed that my Background check changed from "We are processing your background check. We shall contact you if we need more information" (which has been the message for months) to "Your application is in progress. We will send you a message when we start your background check"..
@legalfalcon and @caipsnotes, pls can you help with clarification..
May I ask your AOR and office? TY
 

recent_grad

Star Member
Dec 21, 2019
130
74
Category........
FSW
But aren’t there different LVOs involved when it comes to applications? Most offices are handling according to their region , while it is unfair it’s just the way things are right now thanks to the pandemic.
What is LVO? My guess is that his case was processed by some office in Ontario, since it was the province that he chose in his application.

There isn’t much anyone can do rather than wait
1. Based on the fact that old applications aren't being touched by IRCC, wouldn't it make sense to withdraw the existing application, and reapply from scratch, so that our applications are on top of the stack / fresher than 6 months? (This might sound ridiculous, but so is the whole logic that IRCC is governed by).

2. For those who initially applied via the FSW stream, but now are elegible for CEC, wouldn't it make sense to reapply as a CEC applicant, because on the CIC website it is explicitly said that they aren't actively looking at categories other than CEC, as of recently? (source)
 

Ram G

Full Member
Jun 4, 2020
36
21
FSW Outland Folks : Anyone whose medicals expired a month ago and there is still NO update from IRCC on medicals.

I am from India-FSW-O Feb 15th AOR. Application was approved in Sept 2020, I even see a COPR number on GCMS notes. Medicals expired on Dec 31st 2020. NO update from IRCC despite sending couple of webforms.
 
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baharnima

Full Member
Jan 24, 2021
23
7
FSW Outland Folks : Anyone FEB AOR guys whose medicals expired a month ago and there is still NO update from IRCC on medicals.

I am from India-FSW-O Feb 15th AOR. Application was approved in Sept 2020, I even see a COPR number on GCMS notes. Medicals expired on Dec 31st 2020. NO update from IRCC despite sending couple of webforms.
wow... despite yours i am expiring in april and they asked me to do re-medical!!!!! everything is totally different for each case
 

Kaat

Full Member
Oct 7, 2020
25
37
Hi everyone,

GCMS notes say that our primary office is CPC-Ottawa and our secondary office is Brussels.

But, I can't find any visa office in Brussels though. The only Canada-related office in Brussels is the embassy of Canada to Belgium. But they say clearly on their website that all immigration related matters are handled in Paris, not Brussels.
So I was wondering to what office in Brussels our GCMS notes could be referring to?

In the list of Secondary Offices in our GCMS notes, we have 5 offices listed. But only Brussels has PRIMARY: Y.
Does anybody know what this means?
@legalfalcon

SECONDARY OFFICE(S): 1
Created Date: 2010/05/21 18:28:28
Created By: SADMIN
Updated Date: 2010/08/25 09:38:26
Updated By: C9570
Primary: Y
RC Code: 6009
Office Name: Brussels

Thank you.

AOR 19 Feb 2020
FSW-O (Belgium)
Latest GCMS notes show that our file is final: approved (since sept 2020)
 
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legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,040
9,897
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi everyone,

GCMS notes say that our primary office is CPC-Ottawa and our secondary office is Brussels.

But, I can't find any visa office in Brussels though. The only Canada-related office in Brussels is the embassy of Canada to Belgium. But they say clearly on their website that all immigration related matters are handled in Paris, not Brussels.
So I was wondering to what office in Brussels our GCMS notes could be referring to?

In the list of Secondary Offices in our GCMS notes, we have 5 offices listed. But only Brussels has PRIMARY: Y.
Does anybody know what this means?
@legalfalcon

SECONDARY OFFICE(S): 1
Created Date: 2010/05/21 18:28:28
Created By: SADMIN
Updated Date: 2010/08/25 09:38:26
Updated By: C9570
Primary: Y
RC Code: 6009
Office Name: Brussels

Thank you.

AOR 19 Feb 2020
FSW-O (Belgium)
Latest GCMS notes show that our file is final: approved (since sept 2020)
The Primary office is where you most of the processing will take place and the passport request (PPR) will be sent from. There can be one or multiple secondary offices, that are responsible for processing your application, based on the nature or specialisation of the office, work load distribution, local verifications etc.

Even if there is no specified VAC in the country, an application can be sent for processing for very specific reasons to the Local embassy.
 
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pranzal kothari

Star Member
Apr 19, 2016
75
8
If the biometrics is pending, your file processing will not stop, it will continue, but the criminality and info sharing will continue to show as pending, as the biometrics are required for for both.

RCMP runs the biometrics (fingerprint) though their system to access criminality and any immigration violation and they are also shred with partner countries.

See https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/mandate/corporate-initiatives/biometrics/process-steps-2018.html

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/reports-statistics/evaluations/biometrics-canada-united-states-immigration-information-sharing-initiatives.html
Thanks for the reply. That means CIC can still process the eligibility and security without having biometric right ? Only criminality will be pending due to the biometric ?